Punjab chief of Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan arrested

[EjazR]

DAWN.COM | Front Page | Punjab chief of Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan arrested

LAHORE: With the help of intelligence agencies, police have captured Khalilullah, the Punjab chief of the proscribed Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan, and a young man trained for suicide bombing.

Khalil, who was said to be the right hand of late Baitullah Mehsud, allegedly masterminded the twin suicide bombings at Iqbal Town’s crowded Moon Market.

Police found explosive material and sensitive documents in the place where he was living.

According to sources, the cantonment division police and agency personnel had raided an outhouse of Malik Nazir in a Manawan locality 12 days ago and detained Khalil and the 17-year-old would-be suicide bomber, Usman alias Shahbaz.

On information provided by Khalil, police captured another eight terror suspects, three of them from Tandlianwala in Faisalabad district.

During interrogation, the suspects disclosed that they were to attack the flag-lowering ceremony at the Wagah border two days later.

Khalil told investigators that he had a team of 600 suicide bombers.

According to sources, Khalil was on the US list of most-wanted terrorists.

Capital City Police Officer Pervez Rathor told Dawn that Khalil was involved in all terror acts in Punjab. He masterminded the Moon Market suicide bombings and provided logistic support to suicide bombers.

He said Khalil arranged food, accommodation, weapons and vehicles for the bombers for attacks across the province.
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There goes the "CIA/RAW/ISI/MOSSAD actually do the bombings in markets and blame taliban" theory.......

 

[Hulk]

Thx Ejaz, you rock man.

 

[FreekiN]

Sexy. lol

Goodjob ISI, now for Bin Laden xD

 

[DaRk WaVe]

Moon Market suicide bombings and provided logistic support to suicide bombers.

ahhh,I hope i had this C*** in my hands, I would have kept him between living & the dead
Good Job Police
Congratulations people we just caught a big fish
We will eliminate their race

Ejaz you have made my day...

 

[SMC]

There goes the "CIA/RAW/ISI/MOSSAD actually do the bombings in markets and blame taliban" theory.......

That's not really the most popular theory, is it. The main theory and the proof supporting it is something else.

 

[HAIDER]

sick SOBs...extremely sick minded.....

 

[EjazR]

@Ahsan_R
I was actually referring to the AQ video statement by Adam Pearlman/Gadahn.

The same view was articulated by TTP mouthpieces in their statements as well.

I guess you are insinuating that ISI is not involved, but its the CIA/RAW/MOSSAD involved in this. IT may be the most popular but that doesn;t mean its accurate. But its high time that the Pakistani establishment clearly comes forwards and tells the public what the real threat is. Espcially when you have TTP groups clearly claming for example the Karachi attacks and then at the same time clerics and ministers go about blaming "foreign" hand. These people are Pakistan's own enemies.

For countries that took on this scourge and fought them without any imagined pretence of "foreign interference" it took them years to get this threat under control. Algeria and Morocco most of the 1990s, Egypt most of 60s and 70s, Saudi Arabia about 7-8 years. And this was when they were focussed and targetted AQ type affliates exclusively that espoused political Islam on the power of the gun.

If Pakistani establishment does not formulate and present a clear cut policy to the public it will be decades before these people are brought under control because they will continue to have a significant sympathiser base. All they will have to do is change their name. The main battle is of the minds and deflecting all terrorist acts commited by these groups to "foreign hand" will do little to cull they sympathiser and recruitment base.

 

[SMC]

As far as foreign hands go, I and most have clearly said that foreigners - mainly indians - are the ones supporting TTP. TTP are the ones carrying out these attacks, but they are getting financial and material support from india in mass quantities.

And you didn't seriously blame ISI, did you?

As far as Al qaeda goes, that's a CIA/FBI creation. The adam gadhan person you mentioned - he was an extremist zionist and trashed muslims and looked down upon them. Suddenly he turns all favourable, and more importantly, joins al qaeda? He was recruited by CIA/FBI as their propaganda mouthpiece.

 

[Panditji]

Ahsan, why are you bent on ignoring the obvious and suggesting a theory that flies in the face of all evidence? You are not helping the cause of fighting the animals that TTP are. All to the detriment of the Pakistani people in general, who are getting blown apart by the likes of the 17 year old that was arrested.

For the sake of the dead and the suffering, when will you sound sane and responsible?

 

[SMC]

You can take your version of whats obvious and sane and responsible to BR. This world is not as black and white as some of you would want it to be. The evidence you're talking about - what evidence? The evidence from within ISI shows something totally different than what you're suggesting.

And how many times have I been over this. One more time. Not all facts and evidence is out there in public. Just because it's not out there in public doesn't mean its not happening.

I believe I am being sane, responsible, whatever you want it to be. If in your opinion I am not then that's not my problem. Problem with people like you is that you buy everything that is given at face value and do not do critical thinking.

 

[EjazR]

And what about OBL, Ayman Al-Zawahiri, Yahya Al-libi e.t.c.? All were "guests" of Mollah Omar in Afghanistan.

And are you unaware of the links between Kashmiri "Jihadi" groups, Punjabi based extremists and Taliban groups? What about some Pakistani army offcials calling Beitullah Mehsud a "patriot" post 26/11 attacks?

Why not listen to your own Army and ISI offcials on the origins on TTP.
http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakistans-war/37342-jirga-episode-ttp-origins-retired-officers.html

And I think you are insulting your security agencies by saying that India continues to provide "mass quantities" of financial and material (military?) aid to TTP and they haven't be able to stop it nor even attempt to expose it by providing evidence to any foreign govt. AFAIK the last FO statement was that the evidence will be provided to India at suitable time and that was also only realted to Baluchistan. Even Musharraf has only accused of interference in Balochistan because he very well knew where the TTP threat comes from.

If we agree with Arif Jamal (author of Shadow Wars) there are up to half a million trained extremists within Pakistani because of the ISI policy of infiltrating "Jihadis" in Kashmir. So if a clear cut policy is not formulated based on facts, Pakistani society (because ultimately even the TTP are Pakistani nationals) will be fighting amongst themselves

 

[iPhone]

During interrogation, the suspects disclosed that they were to attack the flag-lowering ceremony at the Wagah border two days later.

oh f***! These SOBs. Imagine the human toll and international embarresment. These assholes come up with crazy and unthinkable targets. So happy the lowlife degenerate was caught, please torture him.

 

[SMC]

And what about OBL, Ayman Al-Zawahiri, Yahya Al-libi e.t.c.? All were "guests" of Mollah Omar in Afghanistan.

It only takes 1 link to bust the whole conspiracy. Admitted these are harder to disprove given whatever fabricated evidence CIA and FBI has out there. But given that Adam Ghaddan is a CIA/FBI agent - which should be clear by now - the whole plot is wide open.

And are you unaware of the links between Kashmiri "Jihadi" groups, Punjabi based extremists and Taliban groups? What about some Pakistani army offcials calling Beitullah Mehsud a "patriot" post 26/11 attacks?

Which Taliban groups are you talking about here? There's 2, mainly TTP and Afghan Taliban. Links of Kashmiri freedom fighters with Afghan Taliban are pretty well known, and Punjab based terrorists with TTP are known too. Anything I am missing something?

Only time I heard of Mehsud being called a patriot was way back around early 2008 from Hamid Gul.

Why not listen to your own Army and ISI offcials on the origins on TTP.
http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakistans-war/37342-jirga-episode-ttp-origins-retired-officers.html

The video cannot be seen, even on the link you posted in your post on that topic. But nevertheless, TTP have been there for a while, but their main financial and weapon support comes from india. They really took off after Lal Masjid incident where they were able to rally support and get a lot of recruits. Perhaps I need to clear something. I am not denying that it is TTP terrorists carrying out the attacks. What I am suggesting is that they are getting financial support as well as material support (weapons and training) from india.

And I think you are insulting your security agencies by saying that India continues to provide "mass quantities" of financial and material (military?) aid to TTP and they haven't be able to stop it

Sure, if you want to look at it that way. Doesn't make what india is doing right.

nor even attempt to expose it by providing evidence to any foreign govt. AFAIK the last FO statement was that the evidence will be provided to India at suitable time

I have been over this before. No time now to go over it again.

and that was also only realted to Baluchistan. Even Musharraf has only accused of interference in Balochistan because he very well knew where the TTP threat comes from.

Wrong here. They have given proof not just for Balochistan involvement but involvement with TTP. And Musharraf as also accused india for supporting TTP. You might be recall one of those times earlier this year when he went to india and talked in Dehli at some show. He openly accused india of supporting TTP there.

If we agree with Arif Jamal (author of Shadow Wars) there are up to half a million trained extremists within Pakistani because of the ISI policy of infiltrating "Jihadis" in Kashmir. So if a clear cut policy is not formulated based on facts, Pakistani society (because ultimately even the TTP are Pakistani nationals) will be fighting amongst themselves

The extremists trained by ISI are not the ones in TTP - for the most part. Recall Afghan Taliban. They were trained by ISI and are not the ones attacking Pakistan. They are enemies of TTP, if anything. TTP members are new recruits from poor and illiterate backgrounds.

 

[pakdefender]

First up its good that this sub-human murderer has been caught and Insha Allah more will be arrested based on info that is gather from his interrogation. I hope they kick the crap out him but dont kill him as he has vital info on the wherabout of other terrorists.

The fact that this guy is aparently 'from Pakistan' does not mean the foreign agencies are not involved in destablising Pakistan. We have always maintaned that while these animals might be local the logistics , money , explosives are all being supplied via afghanistan and india is deeply involved with the new afgand government in destablising Pakistan and they have found these TTP types useful in targetting the security apparatus of Pakistan

Here are some interesting photgraphs that shed some light on HOW these people are operating inside Pakistan.

First Article of Evidence.



The above explosives and weapons were captured from TTP terrorists. The interesting part in the above picture are the license plate. They are all of Kabul!

Indians cant read Arabic/Persian script but other Pakistani memebers can confrim that these license plates are of Kabul infact one of them with 'CD' and red background is usally used by Dipolmats! ( CD standing for 'Corp Diplomat' ).

Now we need to grab the afgand govement by its collar and ask them WHO the **** were these license plates issued to! and india being the new found best buddy of kharzai and co needs to answer about the CD number plate!

Pakistan is being maligned too much in the media and had such a discovery of Pakistan registered license plates happened in Kabul , those whiny little rats along wtih india would have gone horse crying how Pakistan is involved in doing this and that!

Second Article of Evidence:





The above are maps and documents that have been retrienved from the terrorits in SWA. The red rectagle shows an interesting article.

This is the new Machine Readable Passport that NADRA (National Database and Registration Authority ) is issuing.

So whoever this belongs to wanted to use a service provided by Pakistan to travel abroad and at the same time was hate filled against the sate that was willing to shoot at our troops and plan attack on other Pakistani cities! such a person has got be a real namak haram begharat to do such thing but this is not the main issue at hand.

The point is that there are afghans that slip into Pakistan from the porus border and unfortunately sometimes through the use of 'millap and 'Pathan Net' they get the Pakistan National ID Card and Passport.

Getting the Passport and ID Card might get them decalred to be 'from Pakistan' but this doesnt take away the hate that they harbour againt Pakistan and they still take money from the afghand govment which is being fed by india to commit acts of terror in Pakistan.

Pakistanis are slowly but surely waking up to the reality and God willing we will prevail over ALL SOBs who intend to bring haram to Pakistan , ALL SOBs without any exceptions!

 

[All-Green]

Excellent news, mashallah.
All these rascals are the worst of humans.
Whoever is behind them, it does not change the fact that these rascals have to be taken out and punished.

I beg to differ with the theory that Afghan Taliban were trained as a whole by ISI, a few Jihadis want us to believe this so that we feel responsible for Taliban and sympathize with them since they are our creation....please do not fall victim to this oversimplified explanation of the Taliban phenomena.
The clear lesson we should learn is that if we neglect the basics and do not create stability in the lives of common man...extremism will always find means to take root.

The reason for success of Afghan Taliban was coherence and unity in their ranks and support of locals who initially were all seduced with the promises of stability and law and order which Taliban assured them of.
Why the locals supported the Taliban? it was not so much as love for what Taliban eventually implemented but instead hate and loathing for what was prevalent in the country due to the War lords waging a civil war. The vacuum had to be filled by someone and the Afghan people had no more sympathy for the war lords and many former Mujahideen commanders who were fighting for their own goals and cared no more for the common man and his misery.
There is no other way to explain the unprecedented rate of capture of territory by Taliban when they faced war lords of equal caliber in arms and training...it all had to do with local support and no foreign agency can cultivate this local support decisively...all have tried and failed in this regards and ISI is not different in capability...local support will always decide who dominates this territory since it is highly suitable for guerrilla warfare and a popular force will remain effective even if the military odds are against it.

Afghan Taliban were a byproduct of the Afghan Jihad and all Mujahideen were trained by the alliance of USA, Pakistan and many other countries providing support against the soviet occupation forces.
If someone in Afghan Taliban was trained by a Pakistani agency then that was for Afghan Jihad and not to carry out Talibanization.

When Taliban captured a significant territory it was Maulana Fazl Ur Rehman and the BB Government who established ties with them...

We should study why Talibanization happened in order to effectively counter it via a broad spectrum strategy...military actions are needed but a lot of other things have to be done by the Governments of this region to ensure there is no more breeding ground for such reactionary forces or those who want to seem as such to the common people.