PTI concealed foreign fund information: ECP

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PTI concealed foreign fund information: ECP
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Published: June 14, 2017
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ISLAMABAD: The Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) has told the Supreme Court that the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) concealed information about foreign funds received through prohibited sources in its annual statements.

Ibrahim Satti, the counsel for the ECP, submitted the reply on Tuesday during hearing of the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) lawmaker Hanif Abbasi’s petition seeking disqualification of the PTI chief for giving false certificate before the ECP that the party did not get funds from prohibited sources.

The counsel stated that the PTI did not disclose details of foreign funding in four years. He, however, stated that all political parties are not disclosing the details of foreign funding in their annual statements.

The reply says that every political party is required to account for in the manner set out in Form-I, indicating its income, expenditure, source of fund within 60 days from the close of each financial year (July-June), submit consolidated statement of the audited account by a charted accountant showing funds from any source prohibited under the order received by the party.

“Political parties, who are acting under the command of law, are required to submit statement of all funds received and expenditure made, of course honestly but not fraudulently.”

The ECP rejected the PTI’s contention that the matter regarding obtaining funds through prohibited sources has been past and closed, adding “the commission can legally reopen the matter and proceed in accordance with law”.

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“Whenever the ECP comes to know that any fraud has been committed or suppression of fact or concealment of facts is made or there is misrepresentation or something done without jurisdiction, the ECP is fully empowered to undo the same and others.”

The reply states that there are many cases of similar nature pending before the ECP.

“Some of which have been adjourned sine die while others pending. It may please be appreciated that any remarks touching the merit of the cases if expressed in this behalf would tantamount to expression of opinion in pending case not heard so far.”

Meanwhile, the three-judge bench of the apex court, headed by Chief Justice Mian Saqib Nisar, asked the PTI’s counsel to provide details of remittances given by them to the chartered accountant for audit purposes.

The bench has also asked PML-N lawyer Akram Sheikh to give his opinion about transfer of the issue related to funds received though prohibited sources to the ECP for determination.

The hearing of the case is adjourned till Wednesday (today).

 

[Fledgingwings]

Imran may become PM but the overall system wont change because it has deep roots and the system itself wont allow anyone to disturb its existence.even IK

 

[Hamzay]

Imran may become PM but the overall system wont change because it has deep roots and the system itself wont allow anyone to disturb its existence.even IK

Before becoming the PM tell the courts why Jews and Indians have/had been funding you.

 

[Imad.Khan]

Before becoming the PM tell the courts why Jews and Indians have/had been funding you.

Which jews or indians have funded PTI?

 

[Hamzay]

Which jews or indians have funded PTI?

Go through PTI's foreign funding case.

 

[BATMAN]

Before becoming the PM tell the courts why Jews and Indians have/had been funding you.

Not from Israeli POV but i heard Jews invest in loss.
In case Indian funding, PTI has lost on moral and ideological grounds. IMO, its a no go area, PTI leader should have been careful there.

 

[IceCold]

Before becoming the PM tell the courts why Jews and Indians have/had been funding you.

Why don't u first tell why is a sitting pm doing business with tycoon of enemy state? Better yet why don't u tell how those apartments were bought in the UK? How was the money transferred and where did the money come from?

 

[The Sandman]

That's not good imo PTI should honestly tell from where they got the foreign funding from.

 

[Imad.Khan]

Go through PTI's foreign funding case.

So i have done alot of digging around and the best i could find are 3 donors, 1 of Jewish origin "Barry C Schneps", 1 of Indian origin "Inder Dosanjh" and 1 company “Lab USA Inc". Funny enough all of these contributions are around $50 to a few hundred dollars. No where do i find that the foreign funding are in millions. These contributions are even less than what NS got from ISI or from Al-qaeda founder OBL.

Here is a video i found about the truth of "Barry C Schneps"

Part 1

Part 2

Unfortunately i couldn't find anything on the Indian origin guy, except that the donation was around $50 as per the articles from the media houses.

I also found an interesting article from "The News" that has alot of details about this case.

I have also found that the reason PTI is sensitive about this case is as per the rules of ECP, money can't be collected by an overseas registered company, while the only way to collect donations in the US is to have a company registered in the US.

Jewish-Indian connection allegation against PTI is hollow

ISLAMABAD: One single aspect of different foreign funding allegations against Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf appears serious even to key men in the Election Commission of Pakistan but yet if the said allegation is proved neither the PTI nor any of its leaders would be penalized or banned.
The government may be expecting from the Commission to take a harsh decision against the PTI on this issue but under the law the maximum the ECP could do is to confiscate the “prohibited funding”.
It is also revealed by The News probe that the government’s allegation of PTI’s Jewish-Indian connection has no convincing grounds.
Information minister Pervez Rashid Thursday levelled serious allegations against the PTI and its Chief Imran Khan and linked them with Jewish and Indian lobbies.
Knowledgeable ECP sources though did not confirm PTI’s alleged Jewish and Indian funding connection, these sources said that the apparent serious violation of Political Parties Order 2002 concerns the alleged receiving of funding by the Tehrik-e-Insaaf from a foreign corporate concern.
“We don’t know whether the said company is owned by Jews or Indians but if this allegation is finally established, the ECP could not do more than confiscating such ‘prohibited funding’,” a source said.
Although the ECP sources did not share the details of the foreign company that has allegedly funded the PTI in violation of the law, the documents being displayed in TV talkshows and press briefings by information minister and other PML-N leaders show one “Lab USA Inc” to have funded US$ 50 or more to PTI USA. According to the available information on internet, the Lab USA Inc is a medical laboratory, which provides some of the most comprehensive blood and other specimen tests.
Under the Political Parties Order 2002; Any contribution made, directly or indirectly, by any foreign government, multinational or domestically incorporated public or private company, firm, trade or professional association shall be prohibited and the parties may accept contributions and donations only from individuals.
The law added, “Any contribution or donation which is prohibited under this Order shall be confiscated in favour of the State in the manner as may be prescribed.
Explanation.- For the purpose of this section, a “contribution or donation” includes a contribution or donation made in cash, kind, stocks, hospitality, accommodation, transport, fuel and provision of other such facilities.”
The rules, made under the Political Parties Order 2002, empower the Election Commission of Pakistan with the power to confiscate prohibited funds. These rules say, “Where the Election Commission decides that the contributions or donations, as the case may be, accepted by the political parties are prohibited under clause (3) of Article 6, it shall, subject to notice to the political party concerned and after giving an opportunity of being heard, direct the same to be confiscated in favour of the State to be deposited in Government Treasury or sub-Treasury in the following head of the account.”
Regarding government’s allegation of PTI’s Jewish and Indian connection, the documents do not show any convincing evidence. This serious allegation has been leveled on the basis of the mere mentioning of two names — one of a Hindu (Inder Dosanjh) and another of a possible Jew (Barry C Schneps) — in the long list of individual contributors of PTI’s funding in USA.
Except these two individuals and the company — Lab USA Inc — all other contributors appear overseas or American Pakistanis. Interestingly all the names mentioned in the list including a Hindu, a Jew and a foreign company, are shown to have contributed US$ 50 or more.
There is no mention of millions of dollars of funding having done for the PTI either by any Jewish or Hindu lobby.
The documents instead show that instead of millions, the PTI USA collected $15000, $30000, $25000 and $ 20000 on May 9, 2014, August 8, 2014, August 21, 2014 and August 28, 2014 respectively.
What, however, should be a serious concern for the PTI is to justify how and why did it receive funding from a foreign company?
The Election Commission of Pakistan has already taken notice of the PTI’s funding issue and announced on Thursday that the commission had the authority to sort out embezzlement in party funds and funding from foreign countries.
The ECP rejected a plea by the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) that had questioned its constitutional jurisdiction to hear a petition on PTI’s funding.

@Zibago @Realistic Change @Zarvan @Arsalan @war&peace @IceCold @Verve @mr42O @Icarus @PakSword @Farah Sohail @QatariPrince @Bratva @Guvera @Emmie @The Sandman

Do you guys have any more info on this case?

 

[The Sandman]

Do you guys have any more info on this case?

Watch from 25:30 some interesting info on this.

 

[Imad.Khan]

Watch from 25:30 some interesting info on this.

Thanks for sharing the video mate

The bottom line is that PMLN is making it out like PTI is being funded millions of dollars by jewish and indian lobbies when the actual amount in question is a measly few hundred dollars.

 

[Realistic Change]

So i have done alot of digging around and the best i could find are 3 donors, 1 of Jewish origin "Barry C Schneps", 1 of Indian origin "Inder Dosanjh" and 1 company “Lab USA Inc". Funny enough all of these contributions are around $50 to a few hundred dollars. No where do i find that the foreign funding are in millions. These contributions are even less than what NS got from ISI or from Al-qaeda founder OBL.

Here is a video i found about the truth of "Barry C Schneps"

Part 1

Part 2

Unfortunately i couldn't find anything on the Indian origin guy, except that the donation was around $50 as per the articles from the media houses.

I also found an interesting article from "The News" that has alot of details about this case.

I have also found that the reason PTI is sensitive about this case is as per the rules of ECP, money can't be collected by an overseas registered company, while the only way to collect donations in the US is to have a company registered in the US.

Jewish-Indian connection allegation against PTI is hollow

ISLAMABAD: One single aspect of different foreign funding allegations against Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf appears serious even to key men in the Election Commission of Pakistan but yet if the said allegation is proved neither the PTI nor any of its leaders would be penalized or banned.
The government may be expecting from the Commission to take a harsh decision against the PTI on this issue but under the law the maximum the ECP could do is to confiscate the “prohibited funding”.
It is also revealed by The News probe that the government’s allegation of PTI’s Jewish-Indian connection has no convincing grounds.
Information minister Pervez Rashid Thursday levelled serious allegations against the PTI and its Chief Imran Khan and linked them with Jewish and Indian lobbies.
Knowledgeable ECP sources though did not confirm PTI’s alleged Jewish and Indian funding connection, these sources said that the apparent serious violation of Political Parties Order 2002 concerns the alleged receiving of funding by the Tehrik-e-Insaaf from a foreign corporate concern.
“We don’t know whether the said company is owned by Jews or Indians but if this allegation is finally established, the ECP could not do more than confiscating such ‘prohibited funding’,” a source said.
Although the ECP sources did not share the details of the foreign company that has allegedly funded the PTI in violation of the law, the documents being displayed in TV talkshows and press briefings by information minister and other PML-N leaders show one “Lab USA Inc” to have funded US$ 50 or more to PTI USA. According to the available information on internet, the Lab USA Inc is a medical laboratory, which provides some of the most comprehensive blood and other specimen tests.
Under the Political Parties Order 2002; Any contribution made, directly or indirectly, by any foreign government, multinational or domestically incorporated public or private company, firm, trade or professional association shall be prohibited and the parties may accept contributions and donations only from individuals.
The law added, “Any contribution or donation which is prohibited under this Order shall be confiscated in favour of the State in the manner as may be prescribed.
Explanation.- For the purpose of this section, a “contribution or donation” includes a contribution or donation made in cash, kind, stocks, hospitality, accommodation, transport, fuel and provision of other such facilities.”
The rules, made under the Political Parties Order 2002, empower the Election Commission of Pakistan with the power to confiscate prohibited funds. These rules say, “Where the Election Commission decides that the contributions or donations, as the case may be, accepted by the political parties are prohibited under clause (3) of Article 6, it shall, subject to notice to the political party concerned and after giving an opportunity of being heard, direct the same to be confiscated in favour of the State to be deposited in Government Treasury or sub-Treasury in the following head of the account.”
Regarding government’s allegation of PTI’s Jewish and Indian connection, the documents do not show any convincing evidence. This serious allegation has been leveled on the basis of the mere mentioning of two names — one of a Hindu (Inder Dosanjh) and another of a possible Jew (Barry C Schneps) — in the long list of individual contributors of PTI’s funding in USA.
Except these two individuals and the company — Lab USA Inc — all other contributors appear overseas or American Pakistanis. Interestingly all the names mentioned in the list including a Hindu, a Jew and a foreign company, are shown to have contributed US$ 50 or more.
There is no mention of millions of dollars of funding having done for the PTI either by any Jewish or Hindu lobby.
The documents instead show that instead of millions, the PTI USA collected $15000, $30000, $25000 and $ 20000 on May 9, 2014, August 8, 2014, August 21, 2014 and August 28, 2014 respectively.
What, however, should be a serious concern for the PTI is to justify how and why did it receive funding from a foreign company?
The Election Commission of Pakistan has already taken notice of the PTI’s funding issue and announced on Thursday that the commission had the authority to sort out embezzlement in party funds and funding from foreign countries.
The ECP rejected a plea by the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) that had questioned its constitutional jurisdiction to hear a petition on PTI’s funding.

@Zibago @Realistic Change @Zarvan @Arsalan @war&peace @IceCold @Verve @mr42O @Icarus @PakSword @Farah Sohail @QatariPrince @Bratva @Guvera @Emmie @The Sandman

Do you guys have any more info on this case?

1. Case is of meagre amounts which can't really be called "funding". We are talking about peanuts in hundreds of millions. However, wrong is a wrong!

2. To convict PTI of wrongdoing, same measure and law has to be applied to all political parties funding. PMLN and PPP foreign funding is in millions and a lot of it is through hundi.

3. You are right; penalty is confiscating the amount.

However, at present its more of a angling issue; try to penalize PTI even for $150 and then harp day and night that Jews funded it giving an impression that as if entire party is being run on $150. You know how Geo, Dunya, Express and Dunya will do their yellow journalism.

 

[koolio]

But according to ECP none of the political parties have disclosed any foreign funding, yet all of the political parties have received foreign funding and continue to do so, what was ECP doing all these years sleeping when they should have cross checked the sources of funding since day 1.

 

[Clutch]

Before becoming the PM tell the courts why Jews and Indians have/had been funding you.

Nothing wrong with Jewish people... unless you are some sort of racist.

India... lol... nawaz literally holds hand with Modi and has business in India...

 

[koolio]

Thanks for sharing the video mate

The bottom line is that PMLN is making it out like PTI is being funded millions of dollars by jewish and indian lobbies when the actual amount in question is a measly few hundred dollars.

Well done Imad, you have busted the stupid myth by the baboons that Imran is equally guilty as the GODFATHER, when the reality is Imran has brought all his money to Pakistan while the baboon party and Mr 100% have stashed all of their massive wealth in foreign countries, MR GODFATHER himself has huge Indian connections with his businesses in Steel and sugar industries.