Protesters wrest control of Ahmadi worship place in Chakwal

[Disprin]

There's more to it than that: the constitution was amended to re-define what a Muslim is, something Jinnah pointedly refused to do.

WTF
Why Azaan banned in Israel?

They accepted to debate their status and as a result by all major sects they considered non-Muslims.

@Khafee @Indus Falcon @lastofthepatriots @Tipu7

 

[Solomon2]

Why Azaan -

You're going off-topic. Trolling. Do it again and I'll report you.

 

[Solomon2]

Whoever tries to divide our people, try to create communal issues must have their legs thrashed- thrown in jail

That gun can point both ways, yes?

 

[Khurram2349]

Before taking any side I would like to know the point of view of both sides ......so far we just see one side that rowdy Muslim crowd attacked Ahmadi place of worship ..................but why did they do it? We should know Muslim side of the story as well !!!!

And then one should not forget that Ahmadi sect was made by the West to weaken Islam and also anti Islam activities carried out by Ahmadi people openly as well as covertly and their role in destablizing Pakistan and the support they are getting by Western , Israeli as well as Indian enemies of Islam !

 

[Disprin]

Just a bunch of Mullah's doing the only thing they are good for.
Once the state has already declared them a religious minority, then there is absolutely no business for the Mullah. However, the issue is that the bread and butter of these Mullahs(be it black, white or green or red turban) is to create issues that they can preach and thrive on.

FYI, billo rani was at their procession recently.

Dear then why not impose the ruling why we have to let them abusing Islam and Pakistani constitution?

Why nit they just accept and practice why they always create problem by using Muslim names and celebrations to annoy us.

If state mum over that then expect some retaliation from the majority.

 

[YeBeWarned]

Punjab needs a Massive Operation to clean the land from these Lunatics .. arrest them and put a bambo up in their A$$'s ..

 

[Disprin]

Punjab needs a Massive Operation to clean the land from these Lunatics .. arrest them and put a bambo up in their A$$'s ..

Waoo even if they cult members defame u r religion and refuse to accept constitution.

 

[hussain0216]

The ahmadis should not antagonise the majority

Whats that quote the indians blabber on about Rome

 

[Solomon2]

The ahmadis should not antagonise the majority -

Are you saying that the majority of Pakistanis are ready to assault and rob Pakistani ahmadis at the slightest pretext?

 

[Indika]

Police joined the extremists in trying to force the Ahmedi's off the worship sites ? That's retarded....

Thats nonsense if you are looking at it from only one point of view. Police need to maintain law & order and any escalation or deaths will be blamed on them. So they are doing the right thing . Even if the structure was taken in by extremists then later courts can intervene and get it released in a peaceful manner. Police first concern is to maintain peace hence will give into stronger party.

Ironically Sikh voted for India

if you think a place holy filled arms to kill ppl then I pity your standards. Thanks to Indian army they restored the holy sanctity of the place by cleaning up the garbage.

Your country still rots bcos of no action against likes of lal masjid heroes,

 

[Solomon2]

Thats nonsense if you are looking at it from only one point of view. Police need to maintain law & order and any escalation or deaths will be blamed on them. So they are doing the right thing . Even if the structure was taken in by extremists then later courts can intervene and get it released in a peaceful manner. Police first concern is to maintain peace hence will give into stronger party.

Except the police and gov't had plenty of notice, yet failed to prevent it or protect the Ahmadis. This is what, the third time in six years? If action is not taken against the criminal perps quickly then why shouldn't the Ahmadis leave?

 

[holysmoker]

And they speak up for Kashmiris.. Lanaat hai in pay

 

[Indika]

Except the police and gov't had plenty of notice, yet failed to prevent it or protect the Ahmadis. This is what, the third time in six years? If action is not taken against the criminal perps quickly then why shouldn't the Ahmadis leave?

What would you do if you were in their shoes ? Look police at the bottom of the organization dont have much powers they cant do anything. They need to be practical they cant protect ppl every where. Police will generally wait for their time to take action. They simply walk on razor edge of politics, damned if they take action and damned if they dont.

 

[Solomon2]

What would you do if you were in their shoes ?

Just because they aren't considered Muslims anymore does that mean they have surrendered their civil and property rights? That's the angle I'd try: assertion, rather than appeasement.

Look police at the bottom of the organization dont have much powers they cant do anything.

Hmm. Are Ahmadis permitted to possess guns for self-defense purposes?

They need to be practical they cant protect ppl every where. Police will generally wait for their time to take action.

The right time to take action is when a minority is threatened. Because otherwise anybody can be cut out from the crowd and deemed a minority and have a crowd sicced on them.

They simply walk on razor edge of politics, damned if they take action and damned if they dont.

Then one has to consider who they'd rather be damned by, I suppose.

 

[Indika]

Just because they aren't considered Muslims anymore does that mean they have surrendered their civil and property rights? That's the angle I'd try: assertion, rather than appeasement.

Hmm. Are Ahmadis permitted to possess guns for self-defense purposes?

The right time to take action is when a minority is threatened. Because otherwise anybody can be cut out from the crowd and deemed a minority and have a crowd sicced on them.

Then one has to consider who they'd rather be damned by, I suppose.

Look theoretically you are right but practicality is different piece of cake. You can accuse police of many things but some times they do their best to keep law & order from spiraling out of control. Even if they need to fire a gun shot they need to get permission for that. Most of the time such things enrage the mob and cause more damage. Subcontinent is not like USA where they have lot of resources to deal with such problems.