Position holder Ishaq Newton of Kashmir Joins Militancy

[Umair Nawaz]

So much of bullshit in one post. Carry on..

yup that is, coz WE HAVE things to do bullshit upon. What u have? technology?

 

[Emilly David]

yup that is, coz WE HAVE things to do bullshit upon. What u have? technology?

Things as in ? how you got converted ?

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Things as in ? how you got converted ?

converted?

 

[rockstar08]

For that Kashmiri Pundits have to be resettled again. It will take a long time.

sure, still majority wants to join with Pakistan ... you cant change that ...
and how incompetent you are that it take 60 years to settle few pundits there ?

 

[Biplab Bijay]

sure, still majority wants to join with Pakistan ... you cant change that ...
and how incompetent you are that it take 60 years to settle few pundits there ?

That does not matter. Since those who are protesting are not in favor of Kashmiri Pundits resettlement. So it does not matter. After they resettled, we will decide what to do further.

800,000 soldiers for odd 150 boys. This is what we say in pakistan as

Koi Sharam hoti hai
Koi haya hoti hai

in short, dob maro.........

Aaare. That is what they say in Pakistan. That has nothing to do with us. Those 150 terrorists days near. They will be neutralised. After that we will decide about Sharm, Haya, Doobna, Doobana etc.

Son, how jobless do you have to be to s**tpost against Pakistan on a Pakistani forum?

Mother. I have not even Mentioned the name of Pakistan. I was just saying that the 150 terrorists will be neutralized very soon. Earlier they were in 10s of thousands. Now they are just 150. I was even saying that what a sad end of life.

 

[randaam janmam]

Okay. Now continue with your self destruction brave Islamic jihad warriors.

@randaam janmam See, what'd I tell you.

Yeah, I know. Pathetic, isn't it? Deluded jihadis venting on a keyboard while their country becomes a cesspool of islamic jihadi barbarism.

Well, the good thing is that we can all have a laugh at his/their expense.

 

[Biplab Bijay]

Yeah, I know. Pathetic, isn't it? Deluded jihadis venting on a keyboard while their country becomes a cesspool of islamic jihadi barbarism.

Well, the good thing is that we can all have a laugh at his/their expense.

He can not tolerate that short, dark Hindus are Kicking tall, white Jihadi Terrorists every now and then.

 

[randaam janmam]

sure, still majority wants to join with Pakistan ... you cant change that ...
and how incompetent you are that it take 60 years to settle few pundits there ?

60 years? Classic madrassah maths.

The pundits were brutalized and evicted from their native Kashmir from 1989, through the 1990s.

 

[Mukunda Murthi Rao]

How can they say Plebiscite Plebiscite Plebiscite so confidently? I dont understand are they naive or plain stupid.

Dont these pakistanis know that the first clause of the UN security council resolution on kashmir?
Pakistan has to withdraw every fighter or combatant from kashmir and hand it all over to india.
After that india will keep a minimum force for for law and order.
But the first step has never been taken by these idiots.

 

[WAJsal]

How can they say Plebiscite Plebiscite Plebiscite so confidently? I dont understand are they naive or plain stupid.

Dont these pakistanis know that the first clause of the UN security council resolution on kashmir?
Pakistan has to withdraw every fighter or combatant from kashmir and hand it all over to india.
After that india will keep a minimum force for for law and order.
But the first step has never been taken by these idiots.

There is a need of consensus before taking any step. India has not agreed to hold a referendum in Kashmir, so why withdraw our troops for no reason, considering it will only give advantage to Indian to attack these areas. So before posting please use your brain, before any such steps there is a need to have a mutual understanding on this issue. Now India doesn't want to talk on this issue, how can you expect us to withdraw our troops, without a guarantee.

 

[Bharat Muslim]

Position holder Ishaq Newton of Kashmir Joins Militancy ||
Ishaq Ahmad,a 19 yr old boy who becoz of his inteligence and talent was called Newton of Kashmir has secured 9th position in 10th exams has also joined the militant ranks recently. Ishaq's father Ibrahim says that he was very pious in nature and hardworking as well. According to him my son was inspired by Burhan Ahmad Wani who has also joined militants by conviction. The father of Burhan is collage principal. More than 35 young boys have joined militancy from last year says reports and all are from south kashmir. IGP for the Kashmir zone SJM Gillani said 100 youths had joined the militants in the past 18 months. This number is 35 this year and a bulk of them are from south Kashmir. Last year, 65 had joined the militants out of which 30 odd were neutralised, Gillani said. The police said nearly 150 militants most of them locals were active in the region with 80 of them active in distts in south Kashmir

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@SrNair

Independence Day for Kashmir

Swaminathan S Anklesaria Aiyar | Aug 17, 2008, 03.38 AM IST

On August 15, India celebrated independence from the British Raj. But Kashmiris staged a bandh demanding independence from India. A day symbolising the end of colonialism in India became a day symbolising Indian colonialism in the Valley.

As a liberal, i dislike ruling people against their will. True, nation-building is a difficult and complex exercise, and initial resistance can give way to the integration of regional aspirations into a larger national identity — the end of Tamil secessionism was a classical example of this.

I was once hopeful of Kashmir's integration, but after six decades of effort, Kashmiri alienation looks greater than ever. India seeks to integrate with Kashmir, not rule it colonially. Yet, the parallels between British rule in India and Indian rule in Kashmir have become too close for my comfort.

Many Indians say that Kashmir legally became an integral part of India when the maharaja of the state signed the instrument of accession. Alas, such legalisms become irrelevant when ground realities change. Indian kings and princes, including the Mughals, acceded to the British Raj. The documents they signed became irrelevant when Indians launched an independence movement.

The British insisted for a long time that India was an integral part of their Empire, the jewel in its crown, and would never be given up. Imperialist Blimps remained in denial for decades. I fear we are in similar denial on Kashmir.

The politically correct story of the maharaja's accession ignores a devastating parallel event. Just as Kashmir had a Hindu maharaja ruling over a Muslim majority, Junagadh had a Muslim nawab ruling over a Hindu majority. The Hindu maharaja acceded to India, and the Muslim nawab to Pakistan.

But while India claimed that the Kashmiri accession to India was sacred, it did not accept Junagadh's accession to Pakistan. India sent troops into Junagadh, just as Pakistan sent troops into Kashmir. The difference was that Pakistan lacked the military means to intervene in Junagadh, while India was able to send troops into Srinagar. The Junagadh nawab fled to Pakistan, whereas the Kashmir maharaja sat tight. India's double standard on Junagadh and Kashmir was breathtaking.

Do you think the people of Junagadh would have integrated with Pakistan after six decades of genuine Pakistani effort? No? Then can you really be confident that Kashmiris will stop demanding azaadi and integrate with India?

The British came to India uninvited. By contrast, Sheikh Abdullah, the most popular politician in Kashmir, supported accession to India subject to ratification by a plebiscite. But his heart lay in independence for Kashmir, and he soon began manoeuvering towards that end. He was jailed by Nehru, who then declared Kashmir's accession was final and no longer required ratification by a plebiscite. The fact that Kashmir had a Muslim majority was held to be irrelevant, since India was a secular country empowering citizens through democracy.

Alas, democracy in Kashmir has been a farce for most of six decades. The rot began with Sheikh Abdullah in 1951: he rejected the nomination papers of almost all opponents, and so won 73 of the 75 seats unopposed! Nehru was complicit in this sabotage of democracy.

Subsequent state elections were also rigged in favour of leaders nominated by New Delhi. Only in 1977 was the first fair election held, and was won by the Sheikh. But he died after a few years, and rigging returned in the 1988 election. That sparked the separatist uprising which continues to gather strength today.

Many Indians point to long episodes of peace in the Valley and say the separatists are just a noisy minority. But the Raj also had long quiet periods between Gandhian agitations, which involved just a few lakhs of India's 500 million people. One lakh people joined the Quit India movement of 1942, but 25 lakh others joined the British Indian army to fight for the Empire's glory.

Blimps cited this as evidence that most Indians simply wanted jobs and a decent life. The Raj built the biggest railway and canal networks in the world. It said most Indians were satisfied with economic development, and that independence was demanded by a noisy minority. This is uncomfortably similar to the official Indian response to the Kashmiri demand for azaadi.

Let me not exaggerate. Indian rule in Kashmir is not classical colonialism. India has pumped vast sums into Kashmir, not extracted revenue as the Raj did. Kashmir was among the poorest states during the Raj, but now has the lowest poverty rate in India. It enjoys wide civil rights that the Raj never gave. Some elections — 1977, 1983 and 2002 — were perfectly fair.

India has sought integration with Kashmir, not colonial rule. But Kashmiris nevertheless demand azaadi. And ruling over those who resent it so strongly for so long is quasi-colonialism, regardless of our intentions.

We promised Kashmiris a plebiscite six decades ago. Let us hold one now, and give them three choices: independence, union with Pakistan, and union with India. Almost certainly the Valley will opt for independence. Jammu will opt to stay with India, and probably Ladakh too. Let Kashmiris decide the outcome, not the politicians and armies of India and Pakistan.

Independence Day for Kashmir - The Times of India

 

[Edevelop]

Well generally unlike Afghans, Pakistanis, and Arabs, Kashmiris are educated, come from strong family backgrounds, and have moral principles. I would call them freedom fighters rather than terrorist militants

 

[rockstar08]

That does not matter. Since those who are protesting are not in favor of Kashmiri Pundits resettlement. So it does not matter. After they resettled, we will decide what to do further.

wrong , you wont decide anything .. you have no right to decide for others .. let them ( Kashmiri ) decide ... and i guess they did already ..

 

[Biplab Bijay]

wrong , you wont decide anything .. you have no right to decide for others .. let them ( Kashmiri ) decide ... and i guess they did already ..

Again wrong. We will let them decide only when they will agree on resettlement of Kashmiri Pundits. Till then we have every right to decide. Ethnic cleansing in the name of freedom will not be allowed again.

 

[Kaniska]

Fools....feel pity for them....A classic example of a wasted talent...He could have studied well and make a good career and then could have contributed at the intellectual level to Kashmir movement...