animelive
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Not his fault, he is a bangladeshi after all..
if you are gonna weep that much, you can have mine
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Not his fault, he is a bangladeshi after all..
Not his fault, he is a bangladeshi after all..
In 2008, i used to work part time night shifts during Ramadan and a Bangladeshi fella who had work next door starting early in the morning steal my food for Sehri every single day. That completely changed by views on Bangladeshi folk.
I’m not that purana too, but 71 debacle was a grave moments for my parents and other relatives and hearing their perspectives all those years about the incidents still seems very much relevant to me, like below;
1. “Bengalis hate us, bcz they thinks we are stealing their jute money”
2. “Bengalis didn’t loves urdu too, that’s why their mentor is not “IQBAL” & “Ummah” but Tagore and Bengali Nationalism”
3. “Actually, In East Pakistan, there are lot of Bengali Hindus, who incites Bengali Muslims to revolt for greater good of both”.
So, More probing questions would be,
1. Why in these 42 years Bangladesh still under developed with added resources available and Pakistan still progress in terms of GDP and per capita with less of those resources propagandize vehemently in ordinary Bengali psyche by their own leaders?
2. Why, when Pakistan’s ideology possessively based purely on “Pan Isalmism”, Bengali didn’t try to comprehend “Iqbal & his philosophy” which calls them to first left their hate against urdu?
3. United Bengal….aaahhh, just ask about it from any W. Bengali, he would slapped you immediately on it…..why?
Didn’t Bengalis need to apologize first on these false assumptions and missed opportunities to become one nation? The problem for us is there is no constituency in Pakistan to ask these genuine questions from today’s Bangladeshis, whereas it’s a vice versa in Bangladesh, so our kids only hear and learn one part of the story again & again and replies under burden…..robotically only as Apology….Apology…Apology.
Your logic may contain some truth.but about national fundamental difference it is twisted to the T.but ppl who did not run to India is pro-pakistani is utter nonsense. Pro-muslim?we are all Muslims,period. How many ppl actually ran to India?% of total population. Are you saying they all wanted to stay under Pakistani tyranny?
Bro,most probably you were raised in a very pro-pakistani family. Its not your fault, I understand, if my father/grandfather were rajakar I would have been very pro-pakistani myself.
There is nothing may about my uncle,he was from a very politically known family and most of them were target at that time some of them still is.if you can give me one single reason as to why a 17year old boy had to die because his father denied his own country's government and intelligent agencies where his brothers/brother in laws where abouts,I will stop countering your posts.
Actually it was a 2 edge sword's type, IMO. On one hand, I 2nd on UR view on the correlation between unwillingly running IND & being less Muslim and on the other, it was also true for the willful runners. For example, 90% or so were Hindus that happened to non-Muslims anyway. And the most of the rest were RAWamy Munafiks. So, please look at the math now, thanks.T.but ppl who did not run to India is pro-pakistani is utter nonsense. Pro-muslim?we are all Muslims,period. How many ppl actually ran to India?% of total population. Are you saying they all wanted to stay under Pakistani tyranny?
"we are stealing their jute money” - it was a myth back then and still used by BAL leftists of BD to advance their hidden pro-india secularist agendas. (in fact i have more to say on this East-West Pak economic disparity and the dirty politics that was created out of it)
"bengalis didn't love urdu" - many bengalis of my parents' generation got sold on this suggestion that urdu was not part of bengal. my forefathers (inc. grand parents) all practiced urdu and farsi as second languages but it stopped due to the dirty politics during my parents' generation. bengali muslim community of calcutta (now in west bengal, india), where many Bangladeshi families migrated from around 1947 partition, had and still have a vibrant practice of urdu. universality of urdu zaban among south asians (including non-muslims) cannot be denied. "Tagore" culture was and still is at the fringes, something the leftist Hindu-cultured ppl of BD have been trying hard to reverse even till present.
we bengalis need to separate politics from facts about society and heritage. only then can we have a shot at being free
however the misinformation was not limited to the Bengalis only. back during East Pak, a relative of mine was in the navy and then moved to civilian marine. once he, with some bengali colleagues, were discussing with a newly posted punjabi superior (may be from Lahore).
The Punjabi officer said somthing to the effect of "Bangaliyon agar ek saap (snake) ar ek Punjabi ko dekhte hai, pahle Punjabi ko marega". my relative and his bengali colleagues were appalled by learning this kind of mentality, replying something like "ye sab toh yahan me hum kabhi nahi sochta hai". in fact this became more clear long afterwards that the West Pakistani people also harboured misinformed animosity about their East Pakistani compatriots (either rightfully as they resented Bengali misinformed political excesses or due to directed propaganda by hostile forces)
OK, here are some hints for you to figure it out...The Punjabi officer said somthing to the effect of "Bangaliyon agar ek saap (snake) ar ek Punjabi ko dekhte hai, pahle Punjabi ko marega". my relative and his bengali colleagues were appalled by learning this kind of mentality, replying something like "ye sab toh yahan me hum kabhi nahi sochta hai". in fact this became more clear long afterwards that the West Pakistani people also harboured misinformed animosity about their East Pakistani compatriots (either rightfully as they resented Bengali misinformed political excesses or due to directed propaganda by hostile forces)
however the misinformation was not limited to the Bengalis only. back during East Pak, a relative of mine was in the navy and then moved to civilian marine. once he, with some bengali colleagues, were discussing with a newly posted punjabi superior (may be from Lahore).
The Punjabi officer said somthing to the effect of "Bangaliyon agar ek saap (snake) ar ek Punjabi ko dekhte hai, pahle Punjabi ko marega". my relative and his bengali colleagues were appalled by learning this kind of mentality, replying something like "ye sab toh yahan me hum kabhi nahi sochta hai". in fact this became more clear long afterwards that the West Pakistani people also harboured misinformed animosity about their East Pakistani compatriots (either rightfully as they resented Bengali misinformed political excesses or due to directed propaganda by hostile forces)
Im not that purana too, but 71 debacle was a grave moments for my parents and other relatives and hearing their perspectives all those years about the incidents still seems very much relevant to me, like below;
1. Bengalis hate us, bcz they thinks we are stealing their jute money
2. Bengalis didnt loves urdu too, thats why their mentor is not IQBAL & Ummah but Tagore and Bengali Nationalism
3. Actually, In East Pakistan, there are lot of Bengali Hindus, who incites Bengali Muslims to revolt for greater good of both.
So, More probing questions would be,
1. Why in these 42 years Bangladesh still under developed with added resources available and Pakistan still progress in terms of GDP and per capita with less of those resources propagandize vehemently in ordinary Bengali psyche by their own leaders?
2. Why, when Pakistans ideology possessively based purely on Pan Isalmism, Bengali didnt try to comprehend Iqbal & his philosophy which calls them to first left their hate against urdu?
3. United Bengal .aaahhh, just ask about it from any W. Bengali, he would slapped you immediately on it ..why?
Didnt Bengalis need to apologize first on these false assumptions and missed opportunities to become one nation? The problem for us is there is no constituency in Pakistan to ask these genuine questions from todays Bangladeshis, whereas its a vice versa in Bangladesh, so our kids only hear and learn one part of the story again & again and replies under burden ..robotically only as Apology .Apology Apology.
don't you think it was at least partly the West Pakistanis' responsibility to help the Bengalis comprehend the Iqbal philosophy? rising from the ashes of colonial rule, it was the West out of the two wings of Pakistan that was more privileged and resourceful wasn't it?
i hope you realize that West Pakistanis would have found countless true allies in the land of Bengal where brothers were waiting to extend their hands, but only to find nothing from the other end when they needed it.
Just Bhai,When two country from two different side with two different languages, culture marge as one country, it is understandable the language spoken by majority will be the nations language. At the time of creation of Pakistan ,less than 10% people used Urdu .most of the (now) Pakistan had/has their own tribal languages. East side had a completely different situation. 40% of total population from both sides used Bangla as language. It was a logical,legitimate course of action that BANGLA be the national language.
In 1947 amount of people speaking URDU were quite a lot less then the people who spoke PASHTU.but it did not had a chance,because people in power all were URDU speaking. Its as simple as that.
if u means, East Pakistanis Muslims only joins Pakistan movement not bcz of Pan-Islamism they believe (as they did'nt know an iota of it) but actually knowing its the only way of getting thier own bengal (East & West) again which nullified on the behest of Bengali hindus in 1911.......good Point...!!
What brothers in waiting.....On the very first budget presented by Liaqat Ali Khan in 1948, there are riots on Dhaka streets....you know why???? Make coinage in Bengali Language and the frontrunner is Sheikh Mujeeb then 1952 riots again on language....
The point is when all other Pakistan fighting with refugees, kashmir war & other stuff, Bengalis are busy in politicizing atmosphere due to thier very own demographic advantage. I'm not against promoting regional languages but demanding it too early and initially is the first and last mistake you people makes in the coffin of United Pakistan, making it the very first seed of mistrust between two wings.
When two country from two different side with two different languages, culture marge as one country, it is understandable the language spoken by majority will be the nations language. At the time of creation of Pakistan ,less than 10% people used Urdu .most of the (now) Pakistan had/has their own tribal languages. East side had a completely different situation. 40% of total population from both sides used Bangla as language. It was a logical,legitimate course of action that BANGLA be the national language.
In 1947 amount of people speaking URDU were quite a lot less then the people who spoke PASHTU.but it did not had a chance,because people in power all were URDU speaking. Its as simple as that.
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