Poll suggests more than 86% of Pakistanis support PTI for 2023 elections

[Norwegian]

Is this official PTI stance?

Yes

 

[Jungibaaz]

And it also depends on the situation at the time of elections. Situation probably can't be worse than now for PTI and they still are getting popular support so, who knows they might just win with a big mahority.

True, polling dynamics can swing wildly in the run up to election season and with electioneering. And also, given the diversity of support for parties in Pakistan, provincial variation + FPTP... the last three elections were all won with around 30-33% vote share only of the biggest party.

 

[Black.Mamba]

Whose hacking the next Digital Elections in Pakistan?

My naive friend it is a very simple rule. If PML N wins then it will be the most fair election that has ever been witnessed by mankind, if they lose then all has been hacked by aliens.

I have a suggestion for you, talk to Nawaz or Mariam and ask them to hire Chuck Norris for election campaign.

 

[Salahuddin Ayyubi]

No it takes 8 crores to get another robber of national treasury in assembly

That's why they elected Imran Khan?

No Sir, I'm saying just cause they voted and honest man once, doesn't necessarily mean that they would vote for him again. As for what little I know about pakistanis, one thing I can say for sure is that they can always surprise you and either a good way or in a not so good way.

 

[Norwegian]

True, polling dynamics can swing wildly in the run up to election season and with electioneering. And also, given the diversity of support for parties in Pakistan, provincial variation + FPTP... the last three elections were all won with around 30-33% vote share only of the biggest party.

Pakistan needs to get rid of British voting system and replace with proportional representation as most democracies have now already

In 1997 Nawaz Sharif got 2/3 majority with only 36 percent voter turnout and with only double the share of losing party

Systematic rigging in Pakistani elections is not due to some aliens or Department of Agriculture, but because of lack of proportional representation

Proportional representation - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

@El Sidd

 

[Salahuddin Ayyubi]

Whose hacking the next Digital Elections in Pakistan?

Ecuador is conspiring against Islamic rebublic of Al-Bakistan

 

[El Sidd]

My naive friend it is a very simple rule. If PML N wins then it will be the most fair election that has ever been witnessed by mankind, if they lose then all has been hacked by aliens.

I have a suggestion for you, talk to Nawaz or Mariam and ask them to hire Chuck Norris for election campaign.

Nevertheless, Pakistan's intention to hold elections digitally can only be foreshadowed by strict legislation for online ethics and privacy concerns.

There is strong evidence to suggest that Pakistan and Pakistanis would again go for paper vote in best interest of the country.

Ecuador is conspiring against Islamic rebublic of Al-Bakistan

You go there and tell them we would buy all their avocados.

Steal the treasure map on your way back.

 

[Jungibaaz]

Pakistan needs to get rid of British voting system and replace with proportional representation as most democracies have now already

I agree, I've been suggesting this this for years. However, proportional representation is not easy.

One of the prerequisites IMO for PR is a more mature (stable) political system. Chances are that a hung parliament in Pakistan at every general election would be the most likely outcome. You then have to search among the largest parties who could form alliances to bring stable government. Significant political turmoil can and will be inherent in a PR system. That might be okay for a trustworthy sovereign in charge of an advanced republic like Germany, but in Pakistan it sounds like a risky prospect.

Another big risk is that you could cede political ground to extreme and fringe parties, this is the case with true PR systems, a small band of extremist members can threaten to bring down a coalition government and thus those few extremists often win unreasonable concessions. This also means that PR governments are usually much weaker, and way less stable. Also, all those people who are currently against Pakistan's political system as inept, corrupt, and useless, or those that are upset that PTI for example lacks the numbers and legislative power in the assembly to truly affect change... these people would find a PR system to be much, much worse. On this forum, I hear a lot of critics of democracy, and also people complaining that IK can't get anything done because of the limitations of a parliamentary system. A PR system for them would be way worse, IK would likely not have been made PM if PR had been in place. If a PR election were held tomorrow, the most likely outcome would be some messy and weak alliance of opposition parties. Conversely, the arguments in favour of PR are plain, and hard to ignore in a country that is as diverse as Pakistan.

So while I agree that PR is eventually the answer, I don't think we're ready for it. And it's important to note the shortcomings of PR and what it might cost us.

 

[Khan vilatey]

Khaleej Mag, a magazine based in the UAE, revealed on Tuesday results of a poll in which the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) came out on top from various political parties Pakistanis would vote for in the next general elections in 2023.

A total of 42,179 took part in the survey posted on the magazine's Twitter handle. While the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N), Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) and the Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam (JUI) failed to amass more than 15 per cent of the votes in the survey.


Last month, the party managed to gain a majority in the newly elected Gilgit-Baltistan Legislative Assembly after four independent lawmakers joined their ranks.

While the PPP cried foul over the results claiming the polls were rigged.

The legislative assembly election were held in the region on November 15. Voting was held on 23 constituencies, as election was postponed in one constituency because of the death of a candidate.

PTI won 10 seats, PPP bagged 3 and the PML-N gained two seats, while independent candidates returned successful in 7 constituencies.

The article originally appeared on Khaleej Mag

Must be a pti poll

k

 

[FuturePAF]

The problem is the is the ignorant jahil man on the street in places like inner Sindh

We need to crack Sindh and break PPP now

Pmln is done with

PTI needs to find a way to educate them over the next 3 years. We need to Study the Obama 50 state strategy. You may only pick up a few extra seats at first, but the effort of breaking a monopoly can expose the younger voters that there are other options.

Older voters maybe stuck in their ways, but convincing younger voters and working on turnout can make a huge difference, just look at the major shifts in the recent American elections. We also need to find fraud in vote-banks, and inappropriate and sometimes down right illegal and/or fraudulent claims the other parties make.

 

[Last starfighter]

The problem is the is the ignorant jahil man on the street in places like inner Sindh

We need to crack Sindh and break PPP now

Pmln is done with

You mean Bhutto zinda heh.
Lmao hahahaha

 

[Norwegian]

I agree, I've been suggesting this this for years. However, proportional representation is not easy.

One of the prerequisites IMO for PR is a more mature (stable) political system. Chances are that a hung parliament in Pakistan at every general election would be the most likely outcome. You then have to search among the largest parties who could form alliances to bring stable government. Significant political turmoil can and will be inherent in a PR system. That might be okay for a trustworthy sovereign in charge of an advanced republic like Germany, but in Pakistan it sounds like a risky prospect.

Another big risk is that you could cede political ground to extreme and fringe parties, this is the case with true PR systems, a small band of extremist members can threaten to bring down a coalition government and thus those few extremists often win unreasonable concessions. This also means that PR governments are usually much weaker, and way less stable. Also, all those people who are currently against Pakistan's political system as inept, corrupt, and useless, or those that are upset that PTI for example lacks the numbers and legislative power in the assembly to truly affect change... these people would find a PR system to be much, much worse. On this forum, I hear a lot of critics of democracy, and also people complaining that IK can't get anything done because of the limitations of a parliamentary system. A PR system for them would be way worse, IK would likely not have been made PM if PR had been in place. If a PR election were held tomorrow, the most likely outcome would be some messy and weak alliance of opposition parties. Conversely, the arguments in favour of PR are plain, and hard to ignore in a country that is as diverse as Pakistan.

So while I agree that PR is eventually the answer, I don't think we're ready for it. And it's important to note the shortcomings of PR and what it might cost us.

In proportional representation all elected parties are forced to work together. There is more variation of seats based on the vote share so no one party can take it all as is the case in Pakistani elections making power of opposition a rubber stamp.

 

[hussain0216]

You mean Bhutto zinda heh.
Lmao hahahaha

Absolutely

A politician is a SERVANT of the people

So the people choose a politician to rule on their behalf, he/she is given a term to improve the quality of life for the people

After a term the politician is judged on performance in health, education, defence, security etc

If they have performed good or adequately they are voted for again

If they have been poor they are discarded


MOST politicians have a few terms of PUBLIC SERVICE




In PAKISTAN we have sharif, followed by Bhutto, followed by sharif, followed by Princess Bhutto who has never worked her entire life, followed by marayam sharif etc


This is not politics we are just voting the same non performing corrupt idiots over and over again


This is enslavement
It's serfdom

A Jiyala is a brain dead moron, it's not human it's a zombie

It will be treated like dirt, no schools, no hospitals, no development but like a trained dog will follow their kings and princes to hell

Patwaris aren't any better

ANP red salute jokers

Even PTI supporters with the Imran Khan can do no wrong, but atleast Imran Khan has a clean heart and is genuinely trying to transform Pakistan

It's a societal fault in us



No one should be made a king here including IK, but before IK goes we need to give him a fair run and help him remove the trash that have haunted us for 70 years

INCLUDING putting in expected boundaries for the military


It's a joke trying to counter some of this Jiyala or sharif loving rubbish on SM

 

[hussain0216]

Do you know what I find most intolerable about the politics in PAKISTAN


I have almost NEVER heard these useless cunts talk about their health policies, education policies, defence policies, economic policies ANYTHING


It's just the same village level donkey games

It's humilating that our people are such jahils that they can't see through this

 

[Zibago]

Bahi more than that and you never know what happens in our area a businessman spent around 3 crore just for MPA... he is owner of Qamar Chai and still lost..


Secondly PMLN ab khud chande mangne pe aa gyi he election me pesa khaak lagae gi..

Bahi youth from even central Punjab stands behind PTI

That is actually true even in central punjab a large chunk of the under 30 vote is with pti

Their only true enemy are the stupid decision Lhan makes during ticket distribution

I beg them to give tickets to those who fought for the party instead of new arrivals