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Poll: Most Israelis Support the Occupation of Palestinian Territories

So IDF built the Iron Dome, Active Trophy System for Merkava...etc to counter light arms????

You consider rockets heavy arms? I don't see the point you're making, so if people develop defensive weapons that makes their actions strictly defensive?

What about the West Bank, no military organizations there and Israel occupies their land over there, so you tell us what do you want them to do?
 
We aren't Saudi Arabians, we are from the Levant. Go ahead, start mass killing them like you were doing from 2000 to 2009 you killed thousands of Palestinians also using DIME weapons to burn people's organs and fragment their bodies.

Terrorist fascists.
DIME weapons are simply explosives with small blast radius, which decrease the collateral damage.

What about the West Bank, no military organizations there and Israel occupies their land over there, so you tell us what do you want them to do?
Thats exactly the point. There are no rockets flying from West Bank (and Palestinians in West Bank also live much better too). In 2005 before Gaza started massive rocket shelling of Israel, majority of Israelis supported withdrawal from West Bank.
 
Arabs to Saudi Arabia, Jews to Judea and Samaria.

Hey, why don't you take millions of American-Jews to your judea and samaria too? or may be take them to Tel Aviv

DIME weapons are simply explosives with small blast radius, which decrease the collateral damage.


Thats exactly the point. There are no rockets flying from West Bank.

And Palestinians in West Bank also live much better.


DIME weapons are simply explosives with small blast radius, which decrease the collateral damage.


Thats exactly the point. There are no rockets flying from West Bank.

And Palestinians in West Bank also live much better.

Hey 500, why won't you stop colonizing Palestine?
 
DIME weapons are simply explosives with small blast radius, which decrease the collateral damage.

'Tungsten bombs' leave Israel's victims with mystery wounds - Middle East - World - The Independent

Dr Fosse said he had seen a number of patients with extensive injuries to their lower bodies. "It was as if they had stepped on a mine, but there was no shrapnel in the wounds," he said. "Some had lost their legs. It looked as though they had been sliced off. I have been to war zones for 30 years, but I have never seen such injuries before." However, the injuries matched photographs and descriptions in medical literature of the effects of Dime bombs.

"All the patients I saw had been hit by bombs fired from unmanned drones," said Dr Fosse, head of the Norwegian Aid Committee. "The bomb hit the ground near them and exploded." His colleague, Mads Gilbert, accused Israel of using the territory as a testing ground for a new, "extremely nasty" type of explosive. "This is a new generation of small explosive that detonates with extreme power and dissipates its power within a range of five to 10 metres," he said.

According to military databases, Dime bombs are intended for use where conventional weapons might kill or injure bystanders – to kill combatants in a house, for example, without harming people next door. Instead of being made from metal, which sprays shrapnel across a wide area, the casing is carbon fibre. Part of the motive for developing the bombs was to replace the use of depleted uranium, but Dr Fosse said the cancer risk from tungsten powde was well known. "These patients should be followed up to see if there are any carcinogenic effects," he said.

While the loudest controversy has been over accusations that white phosphorus was illegally used, other foreign doctors working in Gaza have reported injuries they cannot explain. Professor Mohammed Sayed Khalifa, a cardiac consultant from Sudan, said that two of his patients had had uncontrollable bleeding. "One had a chest operation, and continued bleeding even after having been given large quantities of plasma," he said. "The other had what seemed to be a minor leg injury, but collapsed with profuse bleeding. Something was interfering with the clotting process. I have never seen such a thing before."

Dr Ahmed Almi, an Egyptian cardio-thoracic consultant at al-Nasser hospital in Khan Younis in southern Gaza, said he had seen a number of patients with inexplicable injuries. A boy of 14 had a small puncture wound in his head, but extensive damage to his brain, making it impossible to save his life. "I don't know the nature or type of these weapons that make a very small [entry wound] and go on and make massive destruction in the tissues," he said.

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Thats exactly the point. There are no rockets flying from West Bank.

And Palestinians in West Bank also live much better.

Rockets are fired only when Israeli missiles are fired, the Palestinian people lose resources by the day and lose land through forced demolitions and that makes their lives better? So if someone is living a little of a decent quality life that gives Israel to occupy the West Bank and bring hundreds of thousands of foreign Jewish immigrants to live on demolished Palestinian land?
 
Nope it didnt. Like many other peoples stance here which we respect. That was my opinion. Has nothin to do with believing to colonialism

You need to slow down a bit ... :)

Try to be more clear on what you're saying and support it with some details. Is it because no real action has been taken in the recent years that you perceive the cause to have changed??
 
@500

I know you see a different perspective, you don't want us to be armed because you believe Israel is an reality today which should exercise control on what happens in Palestinian territory. However, we see that the unilateral actions by the British empire were wrong and we don't recognize them. So what built up Israel was something we don't recognize, therefore our armed resistance is just to defend our rights and fight for them.

You don't see wrongs in Israel's actions, even when you say you condemn settlements, your criticism is limited to that. Your nation directly diminishes the possibility of a Palestinian nation which would have control over its airspace, waters, borders, resources, etc....

We believe we already made plenty of concessions limiting our possible state to the 1967 borders. It seems like Israel won't allow a chance for a viable Palestinian state. Israelis don't have a connection to Gaza, it was always an ancient Egyptian thing. The West Bank israelis want because they believe they have a historical and religious connection to it. Not because they're worried if they withdrew something would happen.

You also support everything Israel had done in Gaza during the 2000's, too much disproportionate force and aggression. I know you will present Israel's perspective but we see it invalid since Israel maturely has to justify its policy to justify its occupation throughout history. Israelis won't see nothing wrong with what they do since they justify their journey to existence but also their current occupation since they have to. Not many people like going over small details, including you. If we could though it could make things easier for us, you first need to realize there's an perspective of the armed resistance and shouldn't deny us an right to our security through any means. I however don't see a connection between security and siege.

Since Israel's existence, prosperity and domination relies heavily on repressing Palestinians, limiting many aspects of their life and stripping them from a right to self determination.
 
Your nation directly diminishes the possibility of a Palestinian nation which would have control over its airspace, waters, borders, resources, etc....
We already dont have any control over Gaza-Egypt border.

We believe we already made plenty of concessions limiting our possible state to the 1967 borders.
Israel is de facto binational state with Arabic language as official. So you get 1 Palestinian state, 1 Jewish-Palestinian. Plus 21 big Arab countries around. Is it a big concession? I dont see so.

It seems like Israel won't allow a chance for a viable Palestinian state. Israelis don't have a connection to Gaza, it was always an ancient Egyptian thing. The West Bank israelis want because they believe they have a historical and religious connection to it. Not because they're worried if they withdrew something would happen.
For wast majority of Israelis its security concern. As I said in 2005 majority of the Israelis supported withdrawal from West Bank. But rocket attacks changed that.

Israelis see that West Bank with settlements is calm while Gaza without settlements regularly fires rockets, thats why they support West Bank policies.
Settlers use it for propaganda claiming that they are providing security to Israel. Unfortunately few Israelis realize that West Bank security is provided by Jordan valley and army and not by settlements.

Since Israel's existence, prosperity and domination relies heavily on repressing Palestinians, limiting many aspects of their life and stripping them from a right to self determination.
Israel was fine and developed state before 1967. So why u did not make a state from 1948-1967?

Few Israelis are ideological right wing who believe that we should control West Bank no matter what. Out of 60% Israelis who oppose withdrawal, 40+% do so because of security concerns.
 
We already dont have any control over Gaza-Egypt border.

Back to lying again.

Israel is de facto binational state with Arabic language as official. So you get 1 Palestinian state, 1 Jewish-Palestinian. Plus 21 big Arab countries around. Is it a big concession? I dont see so.

Pure arrogance, it's becoming clear the only way the Palestinians can restore their rights is to militarily defeat Israel.

For wast majority of Israelis its security concern. As I said in 2005 majority of the Israelis supported withdrawal from West Bank. But rocket attacks changed that.
Israelis see that West Bank with settlements is calm while Gaza without settlements regularly fires rockets, thats why they support West Bank policies. Settlers use it for propaganda claiming that they are providing security to Israel. Unfortunately few Israelis realize that West Bank security is provided by Jordan valley and army and not by settlements.

Not true, an illegitimate states security concerns come from the policy that created it and the policy seen to this day. Israelis see the West Bank as absolutely belonging to them and they call it 'Judea and Samaria'.

Israel was fine and developed state before 1967. So why u did not make a state from 1948-1967?

Israel is an illegitimate creation, with an illegitimate creation comes complete domination sooner or later.

Few Israelis are ideological right wing who believe that we should control West Bank no matter what. Out of 60% Israelis who oppose withdrawal, 40+% do so because of security concerns.

Yeah right, the majority of Israel is right wing, even if left wing they support Israeli policy. Security concerns are actually just an disguise to justify their expansionism and seizure of fertile Palestinian land, water and other resources also while exercising control over what goes in and out of Palestinian territory and limiting their freedom of movement and economic freedom.
 
No compromise. Israel should give back lands taken in 1967 war with East Jerusalem as the capital of Palestine. Who cares what the Israeli public wants.
 
No compromise. Israel should give back lands taken in 1967 war with East Jerusalem as the capital of Palestine. Who cares what the Israeli public wants.

The international community supports whatever Israel wants.
 
The international community supports whatever Israel wants.

Yes. More importantly USA. And Europe has to follow. Plus we have some Arab states like Jordan and Egypt who also follow the USA as they are being given billions of dollars yearly by USA. And we have some Muslim countries fighting with each other through proxies and destabilizing each other.
So Israel knows that we can never put pressure on them right now, hence the stalemate.
 
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