[POLL] Do you think Russia shot down MH17?

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Personally, I think it is highly unlikely because

1. Buk is short range SAM used to cover tank columns. There were no Russian tank columns in eastern Ukraine.

2. Russia would have played it safe, using 250 km range long range SAM S-400 to shoot across the border to prevent people finding out.

3. A 1986 missile is extremely rare to find in Russia army in 2014. By then Russia had Buk M2 which entered service in 2008.

4. If they know already who did it, his name, his address, his phone number, why not simply ask him? Seems like a hoax to me.

What do you think? Did Russia shoot it down?

Missile that downed MH17 'owned by Russian brigade'

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/24/europe/mh17-plane-netherlands-russia-intl/index.html

 

[Schutz]

Russian backed rebels at the very least, Russian army at worst case scenario. Its sophisticated weaponry but in the hands of people who have poor training (i.e most Russian conscripts) it could easily be misused. Oh look theres a plane detected, fire away boys, oh shit wrong plane.

Obviously they did it anyway, if you believe otherwise your clearly just trying to paint a different picture. Russian weapons system, fired from an area with Russian troops, with records and audio released of Russian troops with the weapons system, pictures of the weapons system, confirmed reports of it being there. I mean, wtf more do you want?

Why do people like you who buy into conspiracies just fall for dumb shit, there is a HUGE amount of evidence pointing there way BUT NOPE, ill disregard that and instead say the most likely outcome is that it was someone else. This is like my dad telling me hes going to some specific place with his gun, pictures of him with it, then the police finding my dads gun at a murder scene, proof that he was in the area and audio of him using it but instead of saying, yeah it was him, I instead say hahaha no you liar, it wasnt him....it was uhhhh...yeah the jews or the Americans or someone else obviously.

As for "If they know already who did it, his name, his address, his phone number, why not simply ask him? Seems like a hoax to me"

UHHH, you do know the Russian playbook? what good is it knowing that, they know who the guys were who the Russians admitted were involved in the Salisbury attack, Russia does not give a shit what the outside world thinks of it because it knows the outside world isnt going to get worked up into a frenzy over anything it does, even invading MULTIPLE NEIGHBORING COUNTRIES IN THE PAST DECADE.

Its like spousal abuse where the victim defends her partner who beats her, your either a Russian pretending or you are just a simpleton, if it was the USA im sure you would have no doubt in your mind with 1/1000th of the evidence but the second its Russia people just let it slide and assume they are always innocent (a country which has expanded and attacked every nation near it, been responsible for more deaths than the nazis, the British empire combined etc etc). Russia is a dump, very high murder rate, poverty, drug abuse, HIV, massive corruption, aggressive large army. Why are these things so hard to believe for some people? You wouldnt struggle to believe in the USA doing something bad but when its Russia you just make excuses to the point that your either a troll or your paid to do it.

Russia + USA are both bad for the world, bad for muslims and will most likely be the reason the world comes to another war. Always funny seeing the ummah defending Russia to, no country has killed more muslims in the past few decades as Russia, if you want to include the past century then they top the list by 10 fold.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Obviously they did it anyway, if you believe otherwise your clearly just trying to paint a different picture. Russian weapons system, fired from an area with Russian troops, with records and audio released of Russian troops with the weapons system, pictures of the weapons system, confirmed reports of it being there. I mean, wtf more do you want?

What pictures? Care to share it? I gave you logical reason Russia would NOT use short range Buk in Ukraine. You gave me pictures. So where are they?

if it was the USA im sure you would have no doubt in your mind with 1/1000th of the evidence but the second its Russia people just let it slide and assume they are always innocent

BS. I care about justice. I don't care about nationality.

a country which has expanded and attacked every nation near it, been responsible for more deaths than the nazis, the British empire combined etc etc). Russia is a dump, very high murder rate, poverty, drug abuse, HIV, massive corruption, aggressive large army

There goes your russophobia showing.