pml-n vision

[Revolter_Shabi]

Want discussion about pml-n and capitalism, is not pml-n belives in neo-liberal, trickle down economy, which is in best interest of their own industries. Islam gives concept of welfare state, but neo-liberal phenomenon makes state workfare and capitalist state. Mahatir Mohammad of Malaysia was also neo-liberal.

 

[xyxmt]

Want discussion about pml-n and capitalism, is not pml-n belives in neo-liberal, trickle down economy, which is in best interest of their own industries. Islam gives concept of welfare state, but neo-liberal phenomenon makes state workfare and capitalist state. Mahatir Mohammad of Malaysia was also neo-liberal.

in a welfare state rich pay for the welfare of poor, how would you create rick?

 

[ajpirzada]

in a welfare state rich pay for the welfare of poor, how would you create rick?

rich pay for the welfare of the poor because rich enjoy influence which they do not acquire through effort but simply inherit just because they are rich. its like im the first one to climb the stairs which gives me the ability to partially stop others from coming up just because i can due to my being at the top.

secondly, many people are born rich which allows them to acquire better education, lyf style, and consequently jobs. it wasnt their right to be been born rich just how the child in a poor household did not choose poverty before coming to this world..

and thirdly, value of a good is not only determined by one's effort (or labour, as Marx suggested) but it also includes the value of resources made available to mankind by God. Thus, part of the wealth is due to the resources for which no one paid. And it is by this right, God orders the rich to share their wealth with the poor - as mentioned in the three major religions (and all others as far as i know). Because the wealth of the rich and the poverty of the poor is not solely because of their individual actions.

now if the rich are left on their own and poor are left on their own, with the government sitting and being deluded by the arguments of the trickle down economics, distribution of income (inequality) will keep becoming more and more skewed and ultimately ur society will collapse with every class becoming an enemy of the other class. the consequences of any sort of injustice can only be delayed but not completely diffused.

 

[xyxmt]

rich pay for the welfare of the poor because rich enjoy influence which they do not acquire through effort but simply inherit just because they are rich. its like im the first one to climb the stairs which gives me the ability to partially stop others from coming up just because i can due to my being at the top.

secondly, many people are born rich which allows them to acquire better education, lyf style, and consequently jobs. it wasnt their right to be been born rich just how the child in a poor household did not choose poverty before coming to this world..

and thirdly, value of a good is not only determined by one's effort (or labour, as Marx suggested) but it also includes the value of resources made available to mankind by God. Thus, part of the wealth is due to the resources for which no one paid. And it is by this right, God orders the rich to share their wealth with the poor - as mentioned in the three major religions (and all others as far as i know). Because the wealth of the rich and the poverty of the poor is not solely because of their individual actions.

now if the rich are left on their own and poor are left on their own, with the government sitting and being deluded by the arguments of the trickle down economics, distribution of income (inequality) will keep becoming more and more skewed and ultimately ur society will collapse with every class becoming an enemy of the other class. the consequences of any sort of injustice can only be delayed but not completely diffused.

World is not perfact, injustice happen everywhere in every periods and you cannot eliminate it but if you are in the position of power you can do your two bits to make this world a little better, mere talk doesnt do any good

 

[darkinsky]

its not democracy its Kleptocracy

 

[Leader]

Want discussion about pml-n and capitalism, is not pml-n belives in neo-liberal, trickle down economy, which is in best interest of their own industries. Islam gives concept of welfare state, but neo-liberal phenomenon makes state workfare and capitalist state. Mahatir Mohammad of Malaysia was also neo-liberal.

lol...... oh bhai pmln walo ko tou asi kis baat ka nahi pata hoga, they only work in their own interest...

 

[Revolter_Shabi]

You are validating capitalism, by arguing in a welfare state rich pay for the welfare of poor and this concept of welfare state in propagated by imperial powers to validate capitalism. In a welfare state, state goverment is welfare,not the people of society. According to teachings of Islam wealth should not concentrate to any person,group of persons, because concentration of wealth causes exploitation, fundamental rights(food,shelter,clothes,education,medical etc) should be provided by state government to every individual of society, this can only happen when state government has ownership on state resources(industries,minerals,land etc),Islam claimed its purpose the elimination of the system of qaiser-o-qisra, what was qaiser-o-qisra system, was not it capitalism? So capitalism (neo-liberalism,trickle down economy) and Islam are opponents.

 

[ajpirzada]

World is not perfact, injustice happen everywhere in every periods and you cannot eliminate it but if you are in the position of power you can do your two bits to make this world a little better, mere talk doesnt do any good

knowing what causes the problem is even more important. may be you are more for constructing the building first and then wondering why does it swing more than it should?

 

[xyxmt]

knowing what causes the problem is even more important. may be you are more for constructing the building first and then wondering why does it swing more than it should?

well...you know...ahhhh...ewww...darn...ok