PM Hasina questions demands for her ouster despite massive development works

[bluesky]

There, corrected it

Heard atheism is the latest fad, guess who joined the club lately.

I thought I am the only theist here when you are not. You do not believe in divine intervention, very strange. But, you guys define theism as something that Sky Power above interferes in every affairs on this earth.

But, how come He does not interfere when someone burns the Holy Book? So, you are adhering to the definition of atheism. Think again, are you not an atheist?

 

[Zhukov]

In a country of illiterates and as you self claimed «superstitous» and «backward» people. Why would you want democracy? Lets face it, in a given free and fair election without intidation from goons, it is likely that Jamat would win many more seats.

I thought you were against people who wants to live like 6th century? Make up your mind.

Btw how can a illiterate and poor at all know how to best rule a country? Know who is the best candidate to rule or is the most competent. You are essentially asking a rikshaw driver to vote who is the best to lead a multinational automobile factory.

Democracy western style never worked in a poor uneducated society and never will. Democracy is a emergent phenomenon.

BTW your country was born because of democracy and democratic struggle of Awami league. Only General Elections served as the catalyst of succession and narrative building regarding independent east Pakistan.
If there was no elections , Sheijh Mujeeb would never had gained absolite power to advocate East Pakistan and its demands unilaterally and cause the domino effect from which Pakistan Governemnt Fell and Bangladesh was born.
I get what you are saying , In short term it might look great but in long run you have to make institutes stronger not individuals. Even in non democratic china , The communist party and the institute of Peoples committes is so strong and structured , way above any single individual.
Yugoslavia is prime example. As long as Marshal Tito lived it was the only GOOD communist state in thr world with strong economy and military. But it was only TITO. As soon as he died , Yugoslavia started to crack.
If people tend to stay in power too long they become too powerfull and institutions start to rot no matter the efficiency of the person in charge.
you might argue on the mode of elections , criteria for voters and candidates , system of legislative bodies etc.

 

[Wergeland]

BTW your country was born because of democracy and democratic struggle of Awami league. Only General Elections served as the catalyst of succession and narrative building regarding independent east Pakistan.
If there was no elections , Sheijh Mujeeb would never had gained absolite power to advocate East Pakistan and its demands unilaterally and cause the domino effect from which Pakistan Governemnt Fell and Bangladesh was born.
I get what you are saying , In short term it might look great but in long run you have to make institutes stronger not individuals. Even in non democratic china , The communist party and the institute of Peoples committes is so strong and structured , way above any single individual.
Yugoslavia is prime example. As long as Marshal Tito lived it was the only GOOD communist state in thr world with strong economy and military. But it was only TITO. As soon as he died , Yugoslavia started to crack.
If people tend to stay in power too long they become too powerfull and institutions start to rot no matter the efficiency of the person in charge.
you might argue on the mode of elections , criteria for voters and candidates , system of legislative bodies etc.

Your points are valid.

Let me make myself clear. I adore democracy.

The problem is that democracy cannot be implemented top down on a peasant illiterate society. Democracy, that is, a functional one, can only be a emergent phenomenon after key education and development indicators are fullfilled.

The west was not truly democratic before until after WW2 ill argue.. And that is after 300 years of western rise and dominance.

 

[Bilal9]

Those who want Hasina out, BAL out... Petty party politics and hartals in, are the true enemies of this country.

There are development activities that would certainly be jeopardized if Hasina was ousted.

For starters, there is no equivalent capable leadership at all (especially with grassroots support like Hasina enjoys right now....).

Until we groom such replacements (from any party) Hasina will need to stay.

Your points are valid.

Let me make myself clear. I adore democracy.

The problem is that democracy cannot be implemented top down on a peasant illiterate society. Democracy, that is, a functional one, can only be a emergent phenomenon after key education and development indicators are fullfilled.

The west was not truly democratic before until after WW2 ill argue.. And that is after 300 years of western rise and dominance.

There is no democracy that works in a country when votes can be bought for the price of one Lungi or one Saree.

 

[HttpError]

Hasina ko Aya Pasina.

Keep dreaming. BJP is going to make India a superpower and denuclearize Pakistan. I am a proud Hindutva. Jai Shree ram....

Enough internet for you for today, it is time for your medicines.

 

[VikingRaider]

Keep dreaming. BJP is going to make India a superpower and denuclearize Pakistan. I am a proud Hindutva. Jai Shree ram....

Ok. However I'm not dreaming. For the first time since NRC and CAA , I wish well for India that maybe one day you guys will be civil from savage.

But if you want to remain in stone age, I've no problem.

Don't know about Pakistan, but we are ready to face the wet dream supa pow!

 

[bluesky]

It is not just true that people are unable to choose a candidate from many contestants. It has been proved many times in the past elections since 1946 that they can do.

As for development works of the country, it continues as the bureaucrats has been getting training since 1947/ 1971.

One man or one party dictatorship is no recipe for any country. Look what North Korea is without democracy.

In a democracy, people make mistakes by electing wrong people to the Parliament. But, then in the next election the wrong MPs or the PM can be ousted.

As for development works @Bilal9 wrote, building infrastructures by loans provided by foreign donors is not a real development. I will cite Pakistan, SL and most countries in Latin America.

However, I would say the two Mayors of Dhaka are doing real development works. Most money is from the govt coffer and loans from the local Banks. I hope, there is no Chinese loan there.

Simply speaking, there is no alternative to democracy. However, most of the political parties have so far failed to print/ circulate manifestoes about how each part would do if in power.

The sitting BAL party should print its menifesto that can be emulated by other parties with their own agenda.

 

[Zhukov]

Your points are valid.

Let me make myself clear. I adore democracy.

The problem is that democracy cannot be implemented top down on a peasant illiterate society. Democracy, that is, a functional one, can only be a emergent phenomenon after key education and development indicators are fullfilled.

The west was not truly democratic before until after WW2 ill argue.. And that is after 300 years of western rise and dominance.

So this can be fixed by adjusting voting system. Give voting rights of local bodies and city governments to every one. And voting for Legislature and law makers to certain education level only and not every one. will This not solve the problem?. Because Countries like Pakistan India and Bangladesh are just way too massive with huge populations to be ruled without public representation.

 

[bluesky]

Guys, watch the video below to get a glimpse of BD development with foreign loans,

 

[Destranator]

Keep dreaming. BJP is going to make India a superpower and denuclearize Pakistan. I am a proud Hindutva. Jai Shree ram....

India is already a demonetisation superpower. Congrats.

 

[Destranator]

It is not just true that people are unable to choose a candidate from many contestants. It has been proved many times in the past elections since 1946 that they can do.

As for development works of the country, it continues as the bureaucrats has been getting training since 1947/ 1971.

One man or one party dictatorship is no recipe for any country. Look what North Korea is without democracy.

In a democracy, people make mistakes by electing wrong people to the Parliament. But, then in the next election the wrong MPs or the PM can be ousted.

As for development works @Bilal9 wrote, building infrastructures by loans provided by foreign donors is not a real development. I will cite Pakistan, SL and most countries in Latin America.

However, I would say the two Mayors of Dhaka are doing real development works. Most money is from the govt coffer and loans from the local Banks. I hope, there is no Chinese loan there.

Simply speaking, there is no alternative to democracy. However, most of the political parties have so far failed to print/ circulate manifestoes about how each part would do if in power.

The sitting BAL party should print its menifesto that can be emulated by other parties with their own agenda.

LDP has been in charge in Japan since 1955. Stability matters. BAL is not the answer but we do need LDP/Lee Kuan Yew style authoritarian rule if we are to develop such a resource constrained, overpopulated country.
Bangladeshis are too poor and ignorant for democracy to work here just yet.

 

[bluesky]

LDP has been in charge in Japan since 1955. Stability matters. BAL is not the answer but we do need LDP/Lee Kuan Yew style authoritarian rule if we are to develop such a resource constrained, overpopulated country.
Bangladeshis are too poor and ignorant for democracy to work here just yet.

Yes, LDP has been ruling Japan for many decades except a few years in between. But, it is the people of Japan who go to polling stations and cast their votes that brings win for the LDP.

In the case of BD, last time it was the midnight when BAL cronies filled the vote boxes with ballot papers and next thee day BAL was declared winner.

Do you see the difference? So, this time without RAB killing there will certainly be an almost fair election. So, people have ample chance to re-elect the BAL party.

Thanks to American sanctions that people are expecting a fair election. And now, our great leader Hasina Bibi is crying why people want her ousted.

You guys are unable to see the future result of borrowing money to build a few extravagant projects. Note that borrowing is always from the future.

So, Hasina Bibi is ruining the future of BD when all the loans will be matured. It will have to pay more than $4 billions every year after a few years. It is already paying back $2 billion.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Ok. However I'm not dreaming. For the first time since NRC and CAA , I wish well for India that maybe one day you guys will be civil from savage.

But if you want to remain in stone age, I've no problem.

Don't know about Pakistan, but we are ready to face the wet dream supa pow!

You know those beasts do not represent India, only a lunatic fringe that has got organised backing.
It is dreadful to read their foul posts.

I hope Indians will later through out Hindutva BJP and will find better party/people to rule them.

পচ্ছিমা-রা বলে,"আপকা মুহ মেয় ঘি সক্কর " ।

 

[bluesky]

In a country of illiterates and as you self claimed «superstitous» and «backward» people. Why would you want democracy? Lets face it, in a given free and fair election without intidation from goons, it is likely that Jamat would win many more seats.

Yes, most BAL guys like you are illiterate. So, you guys should abstain from casting votes in the next general election that your BAL will lose with 30 seats in its favor.