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Posted at Aug 12 2016 01:52 AM

MANILA – While the Philippines gained a victory when a Hague court ruled that China has no legal basis to claim historic rights over the West Philippine Sea, Manila can take things further by filing a new case against the superpower, said Senior Associate Justice Antonio Carpio.

The Philippines can file a new case against China for severely damaging its marine environment because the July 12 decision by the United Nations (UN) Permanent Court of Arbitration does not include the latter’s granting of a monetary award, Carpio said on Thursday during a symposium at the De La Salle University (DLSU) in Manila.

The Philippines raised six major issues before the court, including China causing severe harm to the marine environment within the Philippines' exclusive economic zone (EEZ) when Beijing dredged and built islands on seven reefs in the Spratly Islands, and allowed Chinese fishermen in harvesting protected marine life in the contest area.

He cited a case at the International Court of Justice (ICJ), wherein Nicaragua was able to negotiate terms with the United States for the latter’s alleged violation of its territorial integrity. The US offered Nicaragua economic aid in exchange for the withdrawal of the case it filed before the ICJ, Carpio said.

"We can do the same. We can file a case to quantify damages. That has not been resolved but we can file a new case," Carpio said. He added that it is the legal obligation of China to comply with the tribunal and avoid damaging the marine environment, under the 1981 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS).

Marine protected area

Carpio said the Spratly Islands should be declared a marine protected area, similar to an agreement between Israel and Jordan to address their overlapping claims in Red Sea by creating the Red Sea Marine Park, which the two countries jointly manage.

It will be a "win-win" situation for all claimant states if they suspend claims and declare the Spratlys a marine protected area, Carpio said, because while the UN tribunal ruling settled maritime issues, the territorial issue as to who owns the reefs and islands was not settled as the court has no jurisdiction over questions of sovereignty.

A positive solution would be very welcome, Carpio said, especially as the Philippines is very concerned about China's continuing militarization in the South China Sea.

"We're not surprised but we're concerned, very concerned. And that's why we want [former] President Fidel Ramos to jumpstart the talks [with China]," he said.

Ramos was asked by President Rodrigo Duterte to pave the way for talks with Beijing. He arrived in Hong Kong on Tuesday.

The journey to make China honor the tribunal ruling will be a long one, Carpio said, but the Philippines has taken its first step towards a favorable result.

"China will not roll over and give up just because we've won. I've always said that this is an inter-generational struggle. There's no instant strategic need. We have to persevere; we have to prepare our minds for a very long struggle. So we've done the most important thing, get the ruling," Carpio said.

"We have to play a long-term game here. So there's no instant gratification but we've made the first step."
 
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Well this proves that this 'arbitration' was never about territorial rights, but about money. PInoys are the welfare queens of Asia, no longer content with only the child support they get from their broke baby daddy (the USA), but are now looking to mooch off their wealthy neighbors. In the process, they are turning themselves and this neighborhood into pure ghetto jungle trash, a laughingstock on the international stage.

My counsel to China is just to ignore it. Pinoys are trying to drag us onto the international equivalent of the Jerry Springer show, a make-believe court that the United Nations has taken pains to distance themselves from. We should avoid getting ensnared in this trashy tabloid drama at all costs :fie:.
 
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Well this proves that this 'arbitration' was never about territorial rights, but about money. PInoys are the welfare queens of Asia, no longer content with only the child support they get from their broke baby daddy (the USA), but are now looking to mooch off their wealthy neighbors. In the process, they are turning themselves and this neighborhood into pure ghetto jungle trash, a laughingstock on the international stage.

My counsel to China is just to ignore it. Pinoys are trying to drag us onto the international equivalent of the Jerry Springer show, a make-believe court that the United Nations has taken pains to distance themselves from. We should avoid getting ensnared in this trashy tabloid drama at all costs :fie:.
Chinese people are too conscious about hurting others feelings and whether they like them or not :D

Be more like America. Kill people around the world and still be the good guy.
 
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Chinese people are too conscious about hurting others feelings and whether they like them or not :D

Be more like America. Kill people around the world and still be the good guy.

Chinese have a culture of face. We try to preserve the dignity off everyone, even our enemies. For example, we made our athletes stay in the Rio Olympic village even though we knew that the facilities would be dangerous, dirty, disease-ridden, whereas the USA kept their athletes on a luxury cruise ship, which must be humiliating for their Brazilian hosts.

But you are right, when confronting our enemies, there is no need to accommodate them gratuitously. They are a shameless bunch, and what face we help them save, they will throw away anyway.
 
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China could ignore the legal case again ( and the court could feel free to apply an amount )
 
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I doubt that this could happen, he can insult US, Australia and India, but he will not stand up against China.. for now.
 
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ABS-CBN News
Posted at Aug 12 2016 01:52 AM

MANILA – While the Philippines gained a victory when a Hague court ruled that China has no legal basis to claim historic rights over the West Philippine Sea, Manila can take things further by filing a new case against the superpower, said Senior Associate Justice Antonio Carpio.

The Philippines can file a new case against China for severely damaging its marine environment because the July 12 decision by the United Nations (UN) Permanent Court of Arbitration does not include the latter’s granting of a monetary award, Carpio said on Thursday during a symposium at the De La Salle University (DLSU) in Manila.

The Philippines raised six major issues before the court, including China causing severe harm to the marine environment within the Philippines' exclusive economic zone (EEZ) when Beijing dredged and built islands on seven reefs in the Spratly Islands, and allowed Chinese fishermen in harvesting protected marine life in the contest area.

He cited a case at the International Court of Justice (ICJ), wherein Nicaragua was able to negotiate terms with the United States for the latter’s alleged violation of its territorial integrity. The US offered Nicaragua economic aid in exchange for the withdrawal of the case it filed before the ICJ, Carpio said.

"We can do the same. We can file a case to quantify damages. That has not been resolved but we can file a new case," Carpio said. He added that it is the legal obligation of China to comply with the tribunal and avoid damaging the marine environment, under the 1981 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS).

Marine protected area

Carpio said the Spratly Islands should be declared a marine protected area, similar to an agreement between Israel and Jordan to address their overlapping claims in Red Sea by creating the Red Sea Marine Park, which the two countries jointly manage.

It will be a "win-win" situation for all claimant states if they suspend claims and declare the Spratlys a marine protected area, Carpio said, because while the UN tribunal ruling settled maritime issues, the territorial issue as to who owns the reefs and islands was not settled as the court has no jurisdiction over questions of sovereignty.

A positive solution would be very welcome, Carpio said, especially as the Philippines is very concerned about China's continuing militarization in the South China Sea.

"We're not surprised but we're concerned, very concerned. And that's why we want [former] President Fidel Ramos to jumpstart the talks [with China]," he said.

Ramos was asked by President Rodrigo Duterte to pave the way for talks with Beijing. He arrived in Hong Kong on Tuesday.

The journey to make China honor the tribunal ruling will be a long one, Carpio said, but the Philippines has taken its first step towards a favorable result.

"China will not roll over and give up just because we've won. I've always said that this is an inter-generational struggle. There's no instant strategic need. We have to persevere; we have to prepare our minds for a very long struggle. So we've done the most important thing, get the ruling," Carpio said.

"We have to play a long-term game here. So there's no instant gratification but we've made the first step."
This just a wishful thinking by the western lackey author and OP. Duterte is just clearing up the mess of Aquino. Duterte seeks more fresh investment from Chinese. I dare to bet with anyone. Under Duterte , Pinoy will not file more foolish claim against China
 
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This just a wishful thinking by the western lackey author and OP. Duterte is just clearing up the mess of Aquino. Duterte seeks more fresh investment from Chinese. I dare to bet with anyone. Under Duterte , Pinoy will not file more foolish claim against China

Antonio Tirol Carpio (born October 26, 1949) is an incumbent Senior Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the Philippines. He was appointed to the Court by President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo and assumed office on October 26, 2001, his fifty-second birthday.
 
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