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By Hanid Mukhtaran hour ago

I recently came across ablogtitled ‘What’s Really Going on with income trends in India and Pakistan’. The blog was written by a Pakistani economist working in the Washington office of the World Bank. I have known the author and have great respect for him as an economist and as a person. However, it pains me to see that in this blog at least, excessive generalisations and selective analysis is presented to promote a political agenda.

Nobody can deny the fact that for over a decade, India’s economy has been doing very well. In comparison, Pakistan is having severe difficulties; partly due to internal reasons and partly imposed by the geo-political situation in the region. In my opinion, Pakistan could be well served by taking a few pages out of India’s economic management playbook.

Yet, when the author tried to compare the trends of per-capita incomes in both the countries, he seemed baffled to discover that as per the Exchange Rate Parity (ERP), Pakistan is not doing as bad in comparison to India as it should have been doing in his opinion.

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Figure 1. Headline GDP per capita of India and Pakistan, 1990-2015 (current US dollars). Photo: World Development Indicators

As per the author,

“What is wrong with this picture? Why is there no difference in average growth between the two countries between 1990 and 2008, when India is supposed to have been on a reforms and high-investment path and Pakistan on a failed-state path.”

Rather than trying to find reasons for this lack of “evidence” to support his hypothesis, he blames it all on the data, and goes hunting for alternative data sources which would support his pre-suppositions, which he finds in terms of per-capita income measured in Purchasing Power Parity (PPP).

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Figure 2. GDP per capita of India and Pakistan, 1990-2015 (constant 2011 international dollars). Photo: World Development Indicators

He then tries to convince us that per-capita income measured in PPP is a much better index of economic welfare than that measured in ERP.

“Don’t be misled by ‘headline’ data. Current dollar figures used in the media and in everyday discourse need to be scrutinised and adjusted to get the true picture.”

The author is a very good economist and it is inconceivable that he doesn’t know that superiority of PPP over ERP is not universally true, especially if one or both countries have some ‘administered prices’. In case of administered prices and/or large scale subsidies, per-capita income measured in PPP may even be a poorer indicator of welfare than its ERP counterpart.

We all know that there are a lot of subsidies in India, from food to agricultural inputs, from fuel to credits. These subsidies help in keeping domestic prices low, and hence better PPP. India spends more than 10 per cent of the Union Government’s budget on subsidies.

On the other hand, Pakistan has eliminated all subsidies except a minor subsidy on wheat. However, since the commodity price shock of 2007, electricity is also being subsidised. Still Pakistan spends only three to four per cent of its federal budget on subsidies.

As per the 2015/16 budget, India has allocated equivalent of $ 37 billion for subsidies. In comparison, Pakistan has allocated only $ 1.3 billion. With much higher subsidies, it is no surprise that India does significantly better than Pakistan in PPP terms (than in comparison using ERP). In other words, India’s higher growth in per-capita income measured in PPP terms has been “bought” using taxpayer money.

However, what bothered me most about the content of the blog was how the income story was only half-told. Going by the title of the blog, the readers expected an attempt by the author to show what really is going on with the income figures in these two countries. To elaborate, I would like to present two additional charts, similar to the charts presented by the author. Both of the charts use World Bank data.

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Income disparities (if we exclude the “freak year”1995 for Pakistan) have been falling in Pakistan, while rising in India. I know the author would say,

“What’s the big deal, if there is nothing to share, the disparities in Pakistan will fall anyway.”

But then let’s look at the second chart.

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In the early 90s, Pakistan had a much higher incidence of poverty than India. Despite the slower economic growth and a plethora of other problems, by 2010, incidence of poverty in Pakistan was about one-half of that in India.

What will happen in the future is hard to predict, but to date, it appears that the ‘failed’ state has managed to do much better in using its meagre economic growth to lower poverty than the ‘shining example of economic reforms’ has done with its rapid growth. Maybe India could be better served by taking a few pages out of Pakistan’s poverty reduction playbook.

The strong pro-growth (and an anti-poverty reduction) slant is perhaps reflective of the ideological change at the World Bank (where the author is employed), which has now taken some of its attention away from poverty reduction to focus on shared prosperity.



Hanid Mukhtar
the Author has a Ph.D. in economics from Boston University. He has taught economics at Quaid-i-Azam University, University of Massachusetts at Boston, North Eastern University, Boston University, and Applied Economics Research Centre, Karachi. He has also worked as a macro-economist with an International Finance Institution.


Perhaps India can take a few pages out of Pakistan’s poverty reduction playbook – The Express Tribune Blog
 
The author did not mention what was in the Pakistan’s poverty reduction playbook. What steps Pakistan took to lower poverty? It only mentions that the subsidies are 4% in Pakistan while 10% in India. Another half baked analysis. There were no poverty reduction plan in Pakistan we have just been lucky even with the corruption during the PPP Zardari rule. Who gave this man a PhD ? He can't even write a good economic article with explanations.

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Hanid Mukhtar
the Author has a Ph.D. in economics from Boston University. He has taught economics at Quaid-i-Azam University, University of Massachusetts at Boston, North Eastern University, Boston University, and Applied Economics Research Centre, Karachi. He has also worked as a macro-economist with an International Finance Institution.
 
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By Hanid Mukhtaran hour ago

I recently came across ablogtitled ‘What’s Really Going on with income trends in India and Pakistan’. The blog was written by a Pakistani economist working in the Washington office of the World Bank. I have known the author and have great respect for him as an economist and as a person. However, it pains me to see that in this blog at least, excessive generalisations and selective analysis is presented to promote a political agenda.

Nobody can deny the fact that for over a decade, India’s economy has been doing very well. In comparison, Pakistan is having severe difficulties; partly due to internal reasons and partly imposed by the geo-political situation in the region. In my opinion, Pakistan could be well served by taking a few pages out of India’s economic management playbook.

Yet, when the author tried to compare the trends of per-capita incomes in both the countries, he seemed baffled to discover that as per the Exchange Rate Parity (ERP), Pakistan is not doing as bad in comparison to India as it should have been doing in his opinion.

iqbal-fig-11.png

Figure 1. Headline GDP per capita of India and Pakistan, 1990-2015 (current US dollars). Photo: World Development Indicators

As per the author,

“What is wrong with this picture? Why is there no difference in average growth between the two countries between 1990 and 2008, when India is supposed to have been on a reforms and high-investment path and Pakistan on a failed-state path.”

Rather than trying to find reasons for this lack of “evidence” to support his hypothesis, he blames it all on the data, and goes hunting for alternative data sources which would support his pre-suppositions, which he finds in terms of per-capita income measured in Purchasing Power Parity (PPP).

iqbal-fig-2-july15.png

Figure 2. GDP per capita of India and Pakistan, 1990-2015 (constant 2011 international dollars). Photo: World Development Indicators

He then tries to convince us that per-capita income measured in PPP is a much better index of economic welfare than that measured in ERP.

“Don’t be misled by ‘headline’ data. Current dollar figures used in the media and in everyday discourse need to be scrutinised and adjusted to get the true picture.”

The author is a very good economist and it is inconceivable that he doesn’t know that superiority of PPP over ERP is not universally true, especially if one or both countries have some ‘administered prices’. In case of administered prices and/or large scale subsidies, per-capita income measured in PPP may even be a poorer indicator of welfare than its ERP counterpart.

We all know that there are a lot of subsidies in India, from food to agricultural inputs, from fuel to credits. These subsidies help in keeping domestic prices low, and hence better PPP. India spends more than 10 per cent of the Union Government’s budget on subsidies.

On the other hand, Pakistan has eliminated all subsidies except a minor subsidy on wheat. However, since the commodity price shock of 2007, electricity is also being subsidised. Still Pakistan spends only three to four per cent of its federal budget on subsidies.

As per the 2015/16 budget, India has allocated equivalent of $ 37 billion for subsidies. In comparison, Pakistan has allocated only $ 1.3 billion. With much higher subsidies, it is no surprise that India does significantly better than Pakistan in PPP terms (than in comparison using ERP). In other words, India’s higher growth in per-capita income measured in PPP terms has been “bought” using taxpayer money.

However, what bothered me most about the content of the blog was how the income story was only half-told. Going by the title of the blog, the readers expected an attempt by the author to show what really is going on with the income figures in these two countries. To elaborate, I would like to present two additional charts, similar to the charts presented by the author. Both of the charts use World Bank data.

pic-34.jpg


Income disparities (if we exclude the “freak year”1995 for Pakistan) have been falling in Pakistan, while rising in India. I know the author would say,

“What’s the big deal, if there is nothing to share, the disparities in Pakistan will fall anyway.”

But then let’s look at the second chart.

pic-42.jpg


In the early 90s, Pakistan had a much higher incidence of poverty than India. Despite the slower economic growth and a plethora of other problems, by 2010, incidence of poverty in Pakistan was about one-half of that in India.

What will happen in the future is hard to predict, but to date, it appears that the ‘failed’ state has managed to do much better in using its meagre economic growth to lower poverty than the ‘shining example of economic reforms’ has done with its rapid growth. Maybe India could be better served by taking a few pages out of Pakistan’s poverty reduction playbook.

The strong pro-growth (and an anti-poverty reduction) slant is perhaps reflective of the ideological change at the World Bank (where the author is employed), which has now taken some of its attention away from poverty reduction to focus on shared prosperity.



Hanid Mukhtar
the Author has a Ph.D. in economics from Boston University. He has taught economics at Quaid-i-Azam University, University of Massachusetts at Boston, North Eastern University, Boston University, and Applied Economics Research Centre, Karachi. He has also worked as a macro-economist with an International Finance Institution.


Perhaps India can take a few pages out of Pakistan’s poverty reduction playbook – The Express Tribune Blog

Hehe anti-Indian article #9383 posted by you. And then you say Indians don't want Pakistan to progress :rofl:. Such level of hypocrisy. Top Indian poster here only post good things about their country while top poster of Pakistan always posting anti-Indian stuff. I guess the reason is that you don't have anything good to share about Pakistan :D.
 
The author did not mention what was in the Pakistan’s poverty reduction playbook. What steps Pakistan took to lower poverty? It only mentions that the subsidies are 4% in Pakistan while 10% in India. Another half baked analysis. There were no poverty reduction plan in Pakistan we have just been lucky even with corruption during PPP Zardari rule. Who gave this man a PhD ? He can't even write a good economic article with explanations.

2591.jpg

Hanid Mukhtar
the Author has a Ph.D. in economics from Boston University. He has taught economics at Quaid-i-Azam University, University of Massachusetts at Boston, North Eastern University, Boston University, and Applied Economics Research Centre, Karachi. He has also worked as a macro-economist with an International Finance Institution.
its because pakistanis went to europe and other countries and they lot of remittance back home to take care of their families. its no thanks to the government, its us pakistanis helping each other do this.
 
India has more people under poverty line, in the Last decade India has done a good job in uplifting the poor.
 
Lol comparing a nation having 20 crore people with nation that has 129crore people is indeed absurd .
Our Food security Bill is around 22 billion $ :D
 
Top Indian poster here only post good things about their country while top poster of Pakistan always posting anti-Indian stuff. I guess the reason is that you don't have anything good to share about Pakistan :D.
Its not my fault you see indianess in every article...

THE SAID article is talking about an article ON PAKISTAN...

And top indian poster on PDF does 1 liners and comparison...

Lastly, I am sorry you are so obsessed with india Pakistan you failed to see the article was about a Pakistani author and his piece about PAKISTANI economy :tsk:

anti-Indian article #9383 posted by you.
The article is less to do with india and more to do with Pakistani author of a previous article...I am sorry despite being educated you still have comprehension issues or are incapable of reading and understanding a simple article!
 
Lol comparing a nation having 20 crore people with nation that has 129crore people is indeed absurd .
Our Food security Bill is around 22 billion $ :D
Yet 32 % live on less than 1.25$ india and the figure is 21% for Pakistan qccording to Aaian Development Bank
 
Its not my fault you see indianess in every article...

THE SAID article is talking about an article ON PAKISTAN...

And top indian poster on PDF does 1 liners and comparison...

Lastly, I am sorry you are so obsessed with india Pakistan you failed to see the article was about a Pakistani author and his piece about PAKISTANI economy :tsk:

Just take a look at your strated threads. You will finally understand what i am talking about :)

The article is less to do with india and more to do with Pakistani author of a previous article...I am sorry despite being educated you still have comprehension issues or are incapable of reading and understanding a simple article!

Correct your own grammer first. English is not my first language. Or your India hatred is so much that you even write 'I' in India small.
 
Just take a look at your strated threads. You will finally understand what i am talking about :)
Just fix your English and you will understand this is a PUBLIC FORUM there is no copyrights of who can open what thread...Take a look at indian forums ....Non Pakistanis are overly obsessed and ONLY posting about Pakistan on their own forum...If you cant find a single article about Pakistan from me than get your eyes and brain checked :enjoy:

If you cant contribute to the thread go troll on indian forums ....any more off topic posts will be reported :tup:
 
Yet 32 % live on less than 1.25$ india and the figure is 21% for Pakistan qccording to Aaian Development Bank

And calculate those 32 % of 1.3 billion and 21 % of 20 crore if you know anything about mathematics.
 
It would be interesting if alongside you also had a graph on emigration per capita. I think that would answer the question. The state of Kerala in India is in a similar situation. Kerala has a useless government and very sluggish local economy but high per capita income and virtually no poverty because every family has at least one member abroad and sending remittances home. The per capita emigration rate in Pakistan is one of the highest in the world and several times higher than India. Emigrants send back money and they take pressure of local resources, so provides a great benefit for the country.
 
The govt spending in India on poverty alleviation is huge with MANREGA, food security bill. what schemes pakistan govt has for poverty alleviation is not clear in this article
 

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