PakPositivism: How to manage Discourse for PakPosters on PDF!!!

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

The End Game?

Then we Retro-engineer everything.... it is not about just narrative building... it is deeper!

Let us put Our PakCollectiveMind to Focus and with utter detachement, sans bais, let us undress the Indian End Game?

Ingnore the distractors... and classic derailment tactics..

What our enemies wish for in their end game is the complete genocide of the Pakistani people and the destruction of the Pakistani nation where india will act as an obstacle against the Chinese superpower with the backing of america and the West.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Cheer up!! I can't say I understand how you feel. PS you taking it like a man.

But why? That is as it should be. I have Pakistani friends, possibility more than you do. We don't deal in the false coin of being alike or the same; we are NOT the same. (It helps to be a Bangali).

What does that have to do with anything?

Pakistani's off course want not only wish Pakistan to exist. But the question is how long would India fight against this reality and for how long and at what cost?

It never has. Read your military history, with a professional soldier or an ex-soldier.

This business of India fighting to destroy Pakistan is for the weak-minded.

 

[omegalamba7XL9]

Pakistan can't wait to understand that outcome of Indian End game.
Feb 27 shook India to such extent that they are making one mistake after another. Currently they are looking for "Battle of Kursk" which means no strategic objective just a victory to show that they are capable militarily.
They should be denied that victory wherever and however long possible. The longer we do that the longer their prestige as military power will deatoriates and confidence about fighting Pakistan is shattered completely.

 

[Musings]

As soon as all Pakistanis realise that this is the shop-soiled tirade of the mentally and morally exhausted, the quicker the progress that will result.

Joe
One has to analyse why an articulate chap like @PAKISTANFOREVER has so much anger - annoyance and hatred inside him when India is discussed? What has made him become so dismissive and stubborn?

Nations with more hostility heritage and hatred learn to live with each other but not in this instance.
Gradually as the digital age has risen - people have the ability to stress and comment and you go onto Twitter Facebook and YouTube and won’t have to go far to see some incredibly nasty comments fermenting from Indian users.
Pakistanis are a proud vibrant passionate people that respond with interest. Joe lately the abuse has increased tenfold with Modi at the helm.
The blatant racial motivated government of India actively encourage and set out policies to demonise punish and on certain instances kill Muslims - if you can’t see the eventual raw hatred in retaliation then I’m afraid you are naive.
My personal frustrations are slightly different - my fathers land is in Kashmir. I can’t visit or even dream to see the soil due to daily firings into our family house. Imagine how you would feel when some Indian troll like for example drumstick attempts to give Pakistani trolling attempts suggesting we deserve etc - probably lives 1000s miles away - never seen a Kashmiri and yet wants to voice his pretence of love of the land ..... it creates more new stronger venom .....
Peace

 

[peagle]

As soon as all Pakistanis realise that this is the shop-soiled tirade of the mentally and morally exhausted, the quicker the progress that will result.

Seriously, how can you be in denial to the intense hatred for Pakistan among your populous, it is so deeply ingrained , you guys live it and breathe it daily.

I admit there is a minority that has been forced to accept the reality of Pakistan, but the large majority still wishes to do harm.

They are unable to do harm is the only thing that has been a constant, because the people of Pakistan refuse to be bullied.

It is all very well protecting your corner, but it is just ridiculous to refuse the obvious. I think we both wish for a peaceful present and especially the future, but for that to happen the Indian nation needs to recognise the hate within, then let it go. Then there will be peace.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Seriously, how can you be in denial to the intense hatred for Pakistan among your populous, it is so deeply ingrained , you guys live it and breathe it daily.

It is an illusion of ill-informed people in Pakistan, and, even more, abroad. I say with force that this is not what you show it to be.

 

[peagle]

Joe
One has to analyse why an articulate chap like @PAKISTANFOREVER has so much anger - annoyance and hatred inside him when India is discussed? What has made him become so dismissive and stubborn?

Nations with more hostility heritage and hatred learn to live with each other but not in this instance.
Gradually as the digital age has risen - people have the ability to stress and comment and you go onto Twitter Facebook and YouTube and won’t have to go far to see some incredibly nasty comments fermenting from Indian users.
Pakistanis are a proud vibrant passionate people that respond with interest. Joe lately the abuse has increased tenfold with Modi at the helm.
The blatant racial motivated government of India actively encourage and set out policies to demonise punish and on certain instances kill Muslims - if you can’t see the eventual raw hatred in retaliation then I’m afraid you are naive.
My personal frustrations are slightly different - my fathers land is in Kashmir. I can’t visit or even dream to see the soil due to daily firings into our family house. Imagine how you would feel when some Indian troll like for example drumstick attempts to give Pakistani trolling attempts suggesting we deserve etc - probably lives 1000s miles away - never seen a Kashmiri and yet wants to voice his pretence of love of the land ..... it creates more new stronger venom .....
Peace

Beautifully put.

 

[Joe Shearer]

I admit there is a minority that has been forced to accept the reality of Pakistan, but the large majority still wishes to do harm.

That language betrays your twisted view as well as the error it has fallen into.

Those who accept the reality of Pakistan are the vast majority, and we had accepted the reality of Pakistan a long, long time ago. Pakistani posters going on and on putting this thought into our minds is hardly relevant.

I say again, look around, talk to people, and try to leave your clouded view behind.

 

[peagle]

It is an illusion of ill-informed people in Pakistan, and, even more, abroad. I say with force that this is not what you show it to be.

I hope you are happy in your fantasies, but I wish, my brother, that one day you will leave your fantasies and join our hands.
We will be waiting.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Feb 27 shook India to such extent that they are making one mistake after another.

Just this one fixation shows that we are dealing with the completely adrift minds of those who insist that Pakistan is in danger from India. It is not. And the 27th of February was a silly little incident that shook no one except Pakistani fanboys excited beyond belief at finally having a shred of a superior situation to satisfy their bruised egos.

 

[HalfMoon]

Indians are pathetic losers and cry babies.

They are obsessed with Pakistan.

If you ignore them they will claim their superiority and victory.

If you confront them they cry and whine about PDF being unfair.

 

[omegalamba7XL9]

This business of India fighting to destroy Pakistan is for the weak-minded.

Weak minds yes who can get carried away with Aman ka tamasha narrative. As I said before the reality at this very moment is India wants total destruction of Pakistan forget the past and arguments over who did what lets talk present. And we as Pakistani will be insane to ignore the reality of today and don't do anything about it. If Indians have initiated their own destruction then we just wana make sure fire doesn't reach us. May you enjoy burning your house this time you can't blame Pakistan. You just let us know when ready we will end it quickly and save you the pain. We also wana focus on our people but you can't do that until a snake is in your backyard which can strike at anytime.

 

[Joe Shearer]

One has to analyse why an articulate chap like @PAKISTANFOREVER has so much anger - annoyance and hatred inside him when India is discussed? What has made him become so dismissive and stubborn?

Stupidity.

I am sorry. This is my candid assessment. India cannot be held responsible for the personal experiences that have made one individual hostile; from whatever has imagined, there have been encounters in Britain that have bruised his ego.

Articulate? Are you joking? A person with exactly three thoughts that come out like the crocodile youngling from the Panchatantra? These are the three:

1. Are you sure? Do you have INCONTROVERTIBLE proof? From a neutral source?
2. We Pakistanis are of a different race from the Indians.
3. The Indians hate us and think they are superior.

THAT is articulate? Are you serious? Can you name a fourth thought that has clouded this mind?

They are unable to do harm is the only thing that has been a constant, because the people of Pakistan refuse to be bullied.

The people of Pakistan, far from being bullied, have attacked, with arms, three times so far. Please don't put up that victim imagery. It is past its use-by date.

It is all very well protecting your corner, but it is just ridiculous to refuse the obvious. I think we both wish for a peaceful present and especially the future, but for that to happen the Indian nation needs to recognise the hate within, then let it go. Then there will be peace.

You cannot impose your view on 1.3 billion people and insist that they discover within themselves something that simply doesn't exist.

 

[peagle]

That language betrays your twisted view as well as the error it has fallen into.

Those who accept the reality of Pakistan are the vast majority, and we had accepted the reality of Pakistan a long, long time ago. Pakistani posters going on and on putting this thought into our minds is hardly relevant.

I say again, look around, talk to people, and try to leave your clouded view behind.

If you want examples, I can give you examples, there are thousands of them. I can always backup my words.

I am willing to believe your particular circle could harbour same views as you, but you are so stuck in your fantasies you cannot tell the wood from the trees. Please, look around you, your countrymen are full of hate, your nation is burning with hate, and you prefer to find solace in fantasies.

All I can say is good luck.

 

[Joe Shearer]

I hope you are happy in your fantasies, but I wish, my brother, that one day you will leave your fantasies and join our hands.

Let me explain that I have enough Pakistani friends, of impeccable credentials, more than twice or even thrice the number of you participating in this thread, not to need reassurances about the soundness of my views. I assure you, these are not fools, and these are not disloyal. They are among the salt of the earth, and they possess a fierce loyalty to their country, Pakistan. If they affirm my integrity, and accept that I am not alone but represent millions of people, I am content.

I will hope with the greatest of goodwill that YOU will one day join us. I mean that with sincerity and with kind intentions, and not a morsel of condescension.

Weak minds yes who can get carried away with Aman ka tamasha narrative.

I disagree. Those of us from India who believed in it found those in Pakistan who believed in it. We in India were betrayed by a political party; those in Pakistan have faith that we may, possibly, recover, although many have expressed sorrow and concern at a permanent change. So nobody is getting carried away. Something that is worth doing, is worth doing whether it succeeds or fails.