it will be an endless argument and will ruin the thread----
but i will end this from my side that this is not about Military vs Civlians or military eating up on budget --- its about presenting two sides of a Picture----
if you are living in a hut on the front line, there is nothing special about it - so i did not find your captions balanced, hence gave my pov -----
You started it, now why back out?
As for ruing the thread, well you should have known that such comments would merit response.
Living in a hut on the front line is special because a civilian counterpart of a grade 17 or 18 military officer does not live in such conditions for atleast 70 % of his service. Nor does the military officer gets 'compensated' like the civil gazetted officer does. You are comparatively new to the forum and probably have not gone through my previous posts or else you have known that living in a underground 'hut' in summers without electricity and alongwith 'friends' pics of whom i have already posted is special. Especially when your class fellows how have an equivalent education are weeping over their offices not being spacious enough. It is also special when even Somalians have water to wash their @ss and a soldier or and officer has to zero in its shyt in a bowl that looks like an inverted 'beaver felt hat'. i wish i could post some pics but couldnt find any.
Just to quote an example, during escalation 2001-02 we were deployed along the LoC. It was the initial time when the hostilities were imminent and we used to exchange mortar and small arms fire on daily basis. We were just below the threshold of opening up with artillery. It was hot, very hot in those days. So at night the orders were that everyone should sleep inside the shell proof bunkers and not outside. You must be knowing that in villages people sleep in open and get 'compensated' even if there is no electricity. Here, we wont allow our troops to sleep outside because that an single artillery volley will butcher them all. i remember going around at night and kicking them all inside the bunkers as they wont sleep inside. You know what, they would beg, beg like small kids that please sir, let us sleep outside. i mean have you ever tried staying in a closed room without a fan on a July afternoon or even night?
i would pity them. They would dig trenches, stand guard and clean ammo all day and at night the few hours they would get to rest was hell. No sleep during day, no sleep during night.
i mean they were trained soldiers, they have been through tough times and they were trained for such conditions, but then being trained does not mean that you are immune to hard conditions.
You just learn to live with them which they did.
i was once traveling in Shalimar Express, i was not in the military then, i remember our AC cabin lost its power due to some problem in the Power Van of the train. You know that windows of AC class are closed, so not even the outside air was there to 'compensate' us. The problem remained there for like 2 hrs, till the time we didnt reach the next station. You know what people did during those 2 hrs? They stopped the train thrice, beat up the driver and the conductor guard and were sweating like pigs. It was all humid, hot and smelly inside. People were cribbing as if they would die. i was a kid so i was more 'inclined' towards the girl sitting opposite to us, but now when i recall it, it was the worst 2 hrs of my life.
Now imagine spending a year in such a condition?!
And that's just one of the stories.
And then you tell me that it is not special?
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