Pakistan's 'Truth' On Kashmir Is Mostly Argumentative

[Indika]

having discuss above few points my conclusion is that whole your article is biased and full with incorrect references and claims not worthy to discuss more.

If you think the article is inconsistent then pakistan has to withdraw its case from UN. Why does pakistan always keep moaning that case is pending with world body UN and utterly disrespect its directives?
Attitude of being totally opportunistic, selectively choosing half truths and playing the victim card has not brought any solution.

 

[Max]

Only a handful of separatists who are paid by Pakistan would love to join Pakistan...

if u are so sure then just arrange plebiscite and kick Pakistan out of Both Kashmir? is it too difficult

 

[AnnoyingOrange]

if u are so sure then just arrange plebiscite and kick Pakistan out of Both Kashmir? is it too difficult

Pakistan has no locus standi on Kashmir...The instrument of accession of Kashmir is with India.. no matter what Pakistani leadership says.

Anyways... for the sake of argument..Plebiscite can only be conducted if Pakistan Army moves out of Pakistan Controlled Kashmir...

 

[Spectre]

In that case i would like to add what is the best i have stay with me i would post some thing interesting and informative for you. Basically Kashmir was / is a unfinished agenda of the partition (well said by chief) as you know that Pakistan was created on the basis of two nations theory and Mr. Jinnah was staunch supporter and advocate of this am i right? if yes then Kashmir and rest of the states with Muslim majority is the main concern of Mr. Jinnah but at that time there was some conspiracy done by Mr. Nehru with Lady mount baton which force Mr. Lord Mount baton to leave disputed issues for near future and Kashmir was / is part of that issues since Kashmir was a princely state and Maharajah of Kashmir shows that he was not in the state to make any decision so this trick Mr. Jinnah he was busy with other issues and not want any more delays for partition agrees on the basis that Kashmir and other Muslim majority states which are disputed mutually discuss later but what happen you know India annexed Kashmir with the help of Maharajah and the issue remains open wound for both India and Pakistan.

I lost you on the parts highlighted. Seems like a conspiracy theory but would be glad to have sources to back it up. Not saying it is not plausible - but would just like to be double sure. @WAJsal?

Where is the countersign of the Maharaja of JnK?

'I believe the document comes with a header coup d' etat? Self evident it won't be countersigned by Maharaja

 

[Max]

Pakistan has no locus standi on Kashmir...The instrument of accession of Kashmir is with India.. no matter what Pakistani leadership says.

Anyways... for the sake of argument..Plebiscite can only be conducted if Pakistan Army moves out of Pakistan Controlled Kashmir...

Why dont we both remove our armies and leave Kashmir under UN for plebiscite?

 

[Osiris]

Why dont both remove their army and leave Kashmir under UN for plebiscite?

As per UN resolution, only Pakistani army has to leave Kashmir, and then only India has to conduct plebiscite in whole of Kashmir.

SO why don't you leave Kashmir and then we talk plebiscite.

 

[WAJsal]

Where is the countersign of the Maharaja of JnK?

Thankfully that retard was overthrown by the locals, not Pakistani malitia...Same such accession papers signed by all mirs of different small princely states in Gilgit agency at the time.

I lost you on the parts highlighted. Seems like a conspiracy theory but would be glad to have sources to back it up. Not saying it is not plausible - but would just like to be double sure. @WAJsal?

Is possible. What is stated is based on facts...Can give sources too.

Pakistan has no locus standi on Kashmir...The instrument of accession of Kashmir is with India.. no matter what Pakistani leadership says.

Anyways... for the sake of argument..Plebiscite can only be conducted if Pakistan Army moves out of Pakistan Controlled Kashmir...

As per UN resolution, only Pakistani army has to leave Kashmir, and then only India has to conduct plebiscite in whole of Kashmir.

SO why don't you leave Kashmir and then we talk plebiscite.

Trolling to thek say karlo, let me educate you guys...
2. The Government of India should:

(a) When it is established to the satisfaction of the Commission set up in accordance with the Council’s resolution of 20 January that the tribesmen are withdrawing and that arrangements for the cessation of the fighting have become effective, put into operation in consultation with the Commission, a plan for withdrawing their own forces from Jammu and Kashmir and reducing them progressively to the minimum strength required for the support of civil power in the maintenance of law and order;
Emphasis on the bold part.


1. The Government of Pakistan should undertake to use its best endeavours:

(a) To secure the withdrawal from the State of Jammu and Kashmir of tribesmen and Pakistani Nationals not normally resident therein, who have entered the State for the purposes of fighting and to prevent any intrusion into the State of such elements and any furnishing of material aid to those fighting in the State.

Pakistan will have GB scouts and other local forces to control it's areas and establish peace and order.
UN Resolutions - Kashmir
Please educate yourself about the issue first...At least read the resolution properly..
regards

Why dont we both remove our armies and leave Kashmir under UN for plebiscite?

read first part of my post.

 

[The-king]

@Spectre
Since new here can't post links this would be interesting for you
'Edwina-Nehru affair got Kashmir deal done'
You can check this on IBNlive

 

[Max]

As per UN resolution, only Pakistani army has to leave Kashmir, and then only India has to conduct plebiscite in whole of Kashmir.

SO why don't you leave Kashmir and then we talk plebiscite.

lol... how its even possible? its obvious that India will do whatever it can to keep occupying Kashmir and no one can say shit to them? it should be under neutral ppl...

 

[Indika]

Avoid the attacks, we can have a debate in a better manner. Thank you for teaching this wise lesson to me

Apologies if it hurt you, it is never personal just to point out the fact we need to have a 360 degree view.

We will have to keep local forces to maintain law and order-such as GB scouts or etc, etc...

Key wordd here is local forces , local kashmiris who are welcome to present including pandits in kashmir vallye.

Plus we can't take this step without formal understanding with India, say we remove our forces and turns out India doesn't follows what it has to do; or that it attacks Pakistan

If pakistan wants to have an understanding with india it should talk to india not UN.
If it does not trust India it should put trust in UN and let it handle the withdrawal of forces. Pakistan should set the ball rolling not india. By simply giving vague reason of trust or faith pakistan is running away from the peacefull soln to violent one of using forces. If india wanted to occupy the state by force then why go to UN at all?

All these ifs & buts are immature excuses which will lead now where, it requires statesmanship to solve an issue. Right from nehru,vajpayee,mm singh lent a hand for peace to only have it to be spiten & bitten.

No threat to it, that was funny. locals standing agaisnt the state. GB scouts standing against the state. then again i state i was not sure...

Ok for argument sake let me agree about GB, what were the tribal raiders doing in srinagar ? Are they locals ?

 

[Max]

Ok for argument sake let me agree about GB, what were the tribal raiders doing in srinagar ? Are they locals ?

they were doing same what ur Army was doing in Hyderabad, Junagarh

 

[AnnoyingOrange]

Why dont we both remove our armies and leave Kashmir under UN for plebiscite?

Well.. try convincing your army to vacate... LOL

 

[Max]

Well.. try convincing your army to vacate... LOL

ok... bhangi

 

[AnnoyingOrange]

ok... bhangi

ok... bhangi

very mature... exactly the kind of response expected from a Keyboard Jihadi.

 

[Max]

very mature... exactly the kind of response expected from a Keyboard Jihadi.

Proud to be a Jehadi atleast i am not a nanga sadhu full on cow piss like you