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Pakistan’s external debt set to grow to whopping $90b

By putting even quarter of 200 Million population to work.....we cam impressive turn around..so no worries...its all in the will!
As an inspiration..read the story of India...

With India’s foreign exchange reserves at $1.2 billion in January 1991[2][3][4] and depleted by half by June,[4] barely enough to last for roughly 3 weeks of essential imports,[3][5]India was only weeks way from defaulting on its external balance of payment obligations.[3][4]

Government of India's immediate response was to secure an emergency loan of $2.2 billion[6][7][8] from the International Monetary Fund by pledging 67 tons of India's gold reserves as collateral.[1][7] The Reserve Bank of India had to airlift 47 tons of gold to the Bank of England[9][2] and 20 tons of gold to the Union Bank of Switzerland to raise $600 million.[9][2][10] National sentiments were outraged and there was public outcry when it was learned that the government had pledged the country's entire gold reserves against the loan.[9][5] Interestingly, it was later revealed that the van transporting the gold to the airport broke down on route and panic followed.[1] A chartered plane ferried the precious cargo to London between 21 May and 31 May 1991, jolting the country out of an economic slumber.[9] The Chandra Shekhar government had collapsed a few months after having authorised the airlift.[9] The move helped tide over the balance of payment crisis and kick-started P.V.Narasimha Rao’s economic reform process.[2]

P. V. Narasimha Rao took over as Prime Minister in June, and roped in Manmohan Singh as Finance Minister.[9] The Narasimha Rao government ushered in several reforms that are collectively termed as liberalisation in the Indian media. Although, most of these reforms came because IMF required those reforms as a condition for loaning money to India in order to overcome the crisis. There were significant opposition to such reforms, suggesting they are an "interference with India's autonomy". Then Prime Minister Rao's speech a week after he took office highlighted the necessity for reforms, as New York Times reported, "Mr. Rao, who was sworn in as Prime Minister last week, has already sent a signal to the nation—as well as the I.M.F.—that India faced no "soft options" and must open the door to foreign investment, reduce red tape that often cripples initiative and streamline industrial policy. Mr. Rao made his comments in a speech to the nation Saturday night." [11] The foreign reserves started picking up with the onset of the liberalisation policies and peaked to $353.876 billion in the week to May 2015.[12]
 
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Reducing Pakistan's debt is a three step process.

Step1.
Arrest Zardari gang and Sharif baradaran.


Step 2.
Waterboard.


Step 3:
Recovery.


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The situation in Brazil in the early 90's comes to mind. Look, running deficits is not a bad thing, debt and deficits, are not huge issues, and they don't need to be, certainly they're not structural issues and can be changed and manipulated according the needs of the economy at any given time. In the long term, one does have to keep them in mind.

The situation is not as bad as some are making it out to be just yet. What Pakistan needs is to put an end to loans from the international capital markets, or if it does borrow, then we can't have the Brazil example or PPP era example where the loans are not put to use, and are instead funnelled off by the elite to tax havens, this is the equivalent of pickpocketing and thievery of the wealth of the Pakistani people, it is money obtained for the few, to be paid off of future earnings with interests back to the lenders. And of course, it adds to the deficit, and means a larger chunk of our expenditure goes towards debt servicing.

The idea should be simple, no loans, if loans, then make use of them properly, keep debt servicing as low as possible, while expanding the tax net to relieve the burden on middle income Pakistanis and helping us manage our debt better.
 
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Not to mention 40% of our economy is not recorded. That can either be a good thing or a bad thing.

The black economy according to various estimates by experts is valued at the same amount as the white economy is. Its a horrible thing, because it leads to loss of billions of rupees of tax collection. It increases income inequality as the salaried are forced to pay their direct taxes, and than are also forced to pay indirect taxes because the rich won't pay their taxes. This results in increased social tensions as we are seeing in Pakistan right now.

The situation in Brazil in the early 90's comes to mind. Look, running deficits is not a bad thing, debt and deficits, are not huge issues, and they don't need to be, certainly they're not structural issues and can be changed and manipulated according the needs of the economy at any given time. In the long term, one does have to keep them in mind.

The situation is not as bad as some are making it out to be just yet. What Pakistan needs is to put an end to loans from the international capital markets, or if it does borrow, then we can't have the Brazil example or PPP era example where the loans are not put to use, and are instead funnelled off by the elite to tax havens, this is the equivalent of pickpocketing and thievery of the wealth of the Pakistani people, it is money obtained for the few, to be paid off of future earnings with interests back to the lenders. And of course, it adds to the deficit, and means a larger chunk of our expenditure goes towards debt servicing.

The idea should be simple, no loans, if loans, then make use of them properly, keep debt servicing as low as possible, while expanding the tax net to relieve the burden on middle income Pakistanis and helping us manage our debt better.

That made me laugh so hard.

If your Prime Minister and Finance Minister are the biggest tax defaulters, how possibly can you expect the FBR to tax people fairly. Most of the debt is largely siphoned off, instead of putting it to good use.
 
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The black economy according to various estimates by experts is valued at the same amount as the white economy is. Its a horrible thing, because it leads to loss of billions of rupees of tax collection. It increases income inequality as the salaried are forced to pay their direct taxes, and than are also forced to pay indirect taxes because the rich won't pay their taxes. This results in increased social tensions as we are seeing in Pakistan right now.



That made me laugh so hard.

If your Prime Minister and Finance Minister are the biggest tax defaulters, how possibly can you expect the FBR to tax people fairly. Most of the debt is largely siphoned off, instead of putting it to good use.
Sorry; I may sound like an idiot - but doesnt that mean we should have a GDP of 500 billion?
 
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What are the options for Pakistan?

1) Continue the Muk Mukka of PMLn and PPP to increase the external debt to $200 billions
2) Islamic Government
3) Miltary Take over
4) Bring in 3rd political force to bring in real democracy.
 
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And what do you propose of PIIGS countries in Europe that are nearly dead? They are still developed with more than 30% populations jobless, industries weak and a whole set of problems, only Spain showing some hope.

The point is, one has to be able to afford to return the debt regardless of what state your country is classified.


An undeveloped country would borrow more for infrastructure,industrialisation,modernising healthcare,etc.Having such a debt at this development level is far forse than those countries you've mentioned.
 
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The debt, due to borrowed loans for investment, is nothing compared to what billion-dollars investment will bring for Pakistan in the next five to ten years. After all, it is about investments for the bright future of Pakistan economy thus eradicating poverty which will eradicate many crime problems.

Let me guess, In your next thread you would be waging war against CPEC that could potentially shape the fate of Pakistan for better.
 
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The black economy according to various estimates by experts is valued at the same amount as the white economy is. Its a horrible thing, because it leads to loss of billions of rupees of tax collection. It increases income inequality as the salaried are forced to pay their direct taxes, and than are also forced to pay indirect taxes because the rich won't pay their taxes. This results in increased social tensions as we are seeing in Pakistan right now.



That made me laugh so hard.

If your Prime Minister and Finance Minister are the biggest tax defaulters, how possibly can you expect the FBR to tax people fairly. Most of the debt is largely siphoned off, instead of putting it to good use.

Oh please. Read a few threads by the great Riaz Haq here on PDF and sleep easy, knowing that things are on the up and up with a trillion dollar economy. No worries! :D
 
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The situation in Brazil in the early 90's comes to mind. Look, running deficits is not a bad thing, debt and deficits, are not huge issues, and they don't need to be, certainly they're not structural issues and can be changed and manipulated according the needs of the economy at any given time. In the long term, one does have to keep them in mind.

The situation is not as bad as some are making it out to be just yet. What Pakistan needs is to put an end to loans from the international capital markets, or if it does borrow, then we can't have the Brazil example or PPP era example where the loans are not put to use, and are instead funnelled off by the elite to tax havens, this is the equivalent of pickpocketing and thievery of the wealth of the Pakistani people, it is money obtained for the few, to be paid off of future earnings with interests back to the lenders. And of course, it adds to the deficit, and means a larger chunk of our expenditure goes towards debt servicing.

The idea should be simple, no loans, if loans, then make use of them properly, keep debt servicing as low as possible, while expanding the tax net to relieve the burden on middle income Pakistanis and helping us manage our debt better.

To effectively curtail stealing we need a firm handed dealing with tax havens Europe..many times the banks who lend the money receive the same in their offshore subsidiaries via corruption...So the actually money into nation hands is net zero while the books have been filled with debt and interest payable in future..this is precisely the scam what Jews did to Germany...lending money..to corrupt elite..laundering it overseas..lending it again..creating a ballon of debt without the country actually receiving anything...and we may need Hitler like actions to resolve it too..

What are the options for Pakistan?

1) Continue the Muk Mukka of PMLn and PPP to increase the external debt to $200 billions
2) Islamic Government
3) Miltary Take over
4) Bring in 3rd political force to bring in real democracy.

Bring in the Nazi party and hang all of these..
 
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