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Recovery in global oil prices helped the benchmark KSE-100 index cross the 33,000 milestone for the first time ever.—File photo
KARACHI: Pakistani stocks ended at a record high on Thursday, with the benchmark 100-share index of the Karachi Stock Exchange closing up 0.86 per cent, or 281.53 points, at 33,117.47.

Recovery in global oil prices helped the index cross the 33,000 milestone for the first time ever.

Oil stocks rallied after many days as Pakistan Oilfields Ltd, Pakistan Petroleum Ltd, and Oil and Gas Development Co Ltd gained, said Samar Iqbal, a dealer at Topline securities.

Pakistan Oilfields rose 3.27 per cent to 381.48 rupees, while Pakistan Petroleum ended up 2.12 per cent at 182.31 rupees.

The rupee closed steady at 100.70/100.75 against the dollar, compared with the previous close of 100.70/100.77.

Overnight rates in the money market remained flat to 9.50 per cent.



Today's Index
33324.82

CHANGE +207.35

PERCENT CHANGE +0.63%
 
Oil stocks rallied after many days as Pakistan Oilfields Ltd, Pakistan Petroleum Ltd, and Oil and Gas Development Co Ltd gained, said Samar Iqbal, a dealer at Topline securities.
any reason behind this ??
 
Because these stocks have taken heavy pounding amid falling oil prices. These stocks are in consolidation now.
i guess it is because of the steadying of the barrel at 47 and rise to 49
but the pounding was not artificial in any way most companies will lose out because production costs are quite high in Pakistan meaning there will be less EPS more then by half i am worried that this consolidation is more to sell of shares by certain parties..
 
i guess it is because of the steadying of the barrel at 47 and rise to 49
but the pounding was not artificial in any way most companies will lose out because production costs are quite high in Pakistan meaning there will be less EPS more then by half i am worried that this consolidation is more to sell of shares by certain parties..
OGDC is mostly in foreign hands....
PPL/PoL is carried by most of the MFs...
Every now and then there is a satta stream by big brokers who accumulate at dips and then hand these holdings to general fools aka general public after pushing the prices higher. AKD,JS and AH are notorious for making huge sums this way.
The value in oil sector stocks now is with refinaries and OMCs.
 
in my opinion in the oil sector PPL is the strongest share as it has diverse holdings and part of its revenue is gas based. Plus it has good reserves.
which sector do you see going up and how unstable is the market at the moment in your opinion
 
in my opinion in the oil sector PPL is the strongest share as it has diverse holdings and part of its revenue is gas based. Plus it has good reserves.
which sector do you see going up and how unstable is the market at the moment in your opinion
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OMCs,Refinaries,Banks, Power Generation,Media,Cements,Chemicals and Autos. All are expected to be positively supported by either discount rate cut or lower energy prices
 
OMCs,Refinaries,Banks, Power Generation,Media,Cements,Chemicals and Autos. All are expected to be positively supported by either discount rate cut or lower energy prices
thank you and stay away from byco that share is always trouble...
humnl has too many resistances right now
let us discuss stocks on a weekly or daily basis as you see fit
 
thank you and stay away from byco that share is always trouble...
humnl has too many resistances right now
let us discuss stocks on a weekly or daily basis as you see fit
Most of the positions-That I didn't show- are closed. I am running positions in HUM,UBL,ABL,HASCOL,GASF and ASLPS at the moment.
Sure why not.
 
stock markets live on speculation which goes against common sense and which promotes capitalism... stock markets should not have existed in any muslim society, in fact in any society at all.

when the anglo nations have seen "occupy" movements against stock exchanges and wider capitalism, it is a shame that the pakistani intelligensia has not risen against the injustice of capitalism.
 
stock markets live on speculation which goes against common sense and which promotes capitalism... stock markets should not have existed in any muslim society, in fact in any society at all.

when the anglo nations have seen "occupy" movements against stock exchanges and wider capitalism, it is a shame that the pakistani intelligensia has not risen against the injustice of capitalism.
is not stock/share a more sharia compliant financial tool than keeping money in bank and getting interest?
 
stock markets live on speculation which goes against common sense and which promotes capitalism... stock markets should not have existed in any muslim society, in fact in any society at all.

when the anglo nations have seen "occupy" movements against stock exchanges and wider capitalism, it is a shame that the pakistani intelligensia has not risen against the injustice of capitalism.

Communism is bigger enemy of Islam, rather than Capitalism. Islam abolish the basic principles of Communism.
 
stock markets live on speculation which goes against common sense and which promotes capitalism... stock markets should not have existed in any muslim society, in fact in any society at all.
Money making is easy in stocks if you select good stocks and have a good understanding of corporates working around you and the economy. Its just made much easier if the other investors are stupid. KSE has both of them

is not stock/share a more sharia compliant financial tool than keeping money in bank and getting interest?
We do have a list of sharia compliant stocks and an index for them i.e. KMI 30
 
is not stock/share a more sharia compliant financial tool than keeping money in bank and getting interest?

the so-called "sharia-compliant islamic banking" promoted by the gulfi nations is a charade... let us look at the big picture... are the gulf nations capitalist or not... are they working with interest-banking at some level or not... who are their protectors but the capitalist western governments... so they are no one to claim innovation in business.

actual islami finance is not about finance for the sake of finance... it is about co-operative business... a person seeking a loan will allow a financier to hold a percentage of partnership in the project or company of the loan seeker... the financier will risk his money and the loan seeker will promise profits to the financier according to the deal they made in mutual agreement.

the above is decentralized, private, law-protected agreement and will more precisely look at sharia-compliance.

a stock market is centralized, chaotic and ends up becoming a place where money is made from money, where every company tries to rise on the rate chart by hook and crook... two crimes rise from it...

1. stock markets work on speculation... meaning that a stock-broker and his mba advisor are not different from some astrologer... all three make mathematical predictions about some company or product, about the said item rising or falling in some strangely calculated number... without considering that these items live in the real-world which is influenced by real-world factors not connected to that company or product... speculation is haraam because it is same as astrology which is a nonsense field... and pakistan has interest rates, internally and for external transactions... so how is it sharia-compliant??

2. any stupid or unnecessary or wrong company or product can put itself in the stock market, and its stock prices may rise too because the consumers of that company or product are idiotic people... and therefore that company will get more investors who will help that wrong company or product to continue production... for example, a company which makes food for dogs, or one making burqa, or a female slimming center company, or a cell phone company, or a 100cc "poor man's motorcycle" company... these are all wrong things, yet some idiot may say that they are sharia compliant.

do tell me if it was confusing... i am only trying to simplify something that is an unnecessary complicated thing.

but all this complication is not required... pakistan's internal economic structure should have been, since 1947, like socialist muslim nations, especially like libyan jamahiriya... half of its problems would not have existed ( the other half being cultural ).

and beyond all this is of course the ultimate economic solution... no economics, through abolishment of money system.

Money making is easy in stocks if you select good stocks and have a good understanding of corporates working around you and the economy. Its just made much easier if the other investors are stupid. KSE has both of them


We do have a list of sharia compliant stocks and an index for them i.e. KMI 30

please look my above post.

Communism is bigger enemy of Islam, rather than Capitalism. Islam abolish the basic principles of Communism.

do you know what communism means??
 
@jamahir ... so you dont disagree with people buying share(equity) of your company .. as investment.. do you?
 
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