Pakistani Pilots Trained To Fly Qatari Rafales

[ProudPak]

Lol, the Pakistanis here think that Qatar will allow Pakistanis to fly their Rafales against India in a skirmish.

Oh dear...
Spot the little indian mind.
Let me spell it out for u

Pakistanis will know first hand limitations of this amazing aircraft.

 

[My-Analogous]

The first batch of pilots trained for Qatar in November 2017 were Pakistani exchange officers.

First Rafale Handed Over to Qatar
by Jon Lake
- February 13, 2019, 4:01 AM


VIPs from Qatar and France pose in front of the first Rafale to be handed over. The stylised Arab stallion graphic is the badge of the new Rafale squadron. (Photo: Dassault Aviation)
purchase of 24 Rafales (six of them two-seat trainers) in May 2015. A dozen more aircraft were added to the order in December 2017. Qatar’s Rafales differ in detail from those delivered to France and Egypt, and integration of the Lockheed Martin Sniper targeting pod and Elbit Systems TARGO-II helmet-mounted target designation system required extensive testing.

Qatar's Rafales are being supplied with a range of advanced weaponry, along with the Sniper advanced targeting pod. (Photo: Dassault Aviation)


The first Rafale DQ for Qatar, a two-seater, made its first flight on June 28, 2016, while the single-seat Rafale EQ flew for the first time on March 27, 2017. The aircraft are being supplied with MBDA MICA IR, MICA EM, and Meteor air-to-air missiles and with MBDA SCALP-EG cruise missiles and a range of air-to-ground weapons, including laser- and GPS-guided Safran AASM (Armement Air-Sol Modulaire) Hammer missiles.

Qatari personnel will be trained at Base Aérienne 118 Mont-de-Marsan in southwestern France, Rochefort, and the Joint Intelligence Training Institute in Strasbourg. The first batch of pilots trained for Qatar in November 2017 were Pakistani exchange officers. Escadron de Chasse 04.030 was established at Mont-de-Marsan as the Qatar Rafale Squadron on Oct. 1, 2017. The Amir of Qatar, Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad al Thani, visited the Qatari Rafale Squadron at Mont-de-Marsan on July 6, 2018, accompanied by French defense minister Florence Parly.

Under the SOUTEX program the Armee de l’Air is training 250 personnel who will man the first Qatari Rafale squadron. This unit will initially be commanded by a French officer until later this year when command will be transferred to a Qatari officer before the unit transfers to Qatar in the summer of 2020.

https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2019-02-13/first-rafale-handed-over-qatar

We should fly these plane to India and personally handed over to Modi.

 

[Secret Service]

Is India really successful in isolating Pakistan from other Muslim countries ?

 

[My-Analogous]

Indian Rafales comes with India specific customization.

Regarding the training, people should know that Singapore Airforce practices with IAF in India often and we also have access to F16's.

You can change configuration of the plane but you can't change the limitation of the plane and plus and minus will always remain same. Heat signature, plane deductiblity, aircraft maneuvers and aircraft limitation can't be change. Regarding customize specification. Now a days every body can get those information from many source so what is the advantages does India have? Plus 36 planes don't make any real impact on Pakistan.
@Windjammer @Khafee

 

[SQ8]

So far Pakistani pilots have flown and familiarized themselves with most of India’s too fighters included a brief stint in the MKM(although that spectre has already been blown out of the sky.. literally).

It seems Pakistani familiarity with Indian aircraft is showing more than the F-16 obsession by India.
Once the JF-17 comes up, India will have to wait for Burma or Nigeria to give them an idea of what it can do.

So far there is no interest in PAF testing the Tejas, until they manage to build and fly more than 20 operational ones.

You can change configuration of the plane but you can't change the limitation of the plane and plus and minus will always remain same. Heat signature, plane deductiblity, aircraft maneuvers and aircraft limitation can't be change. Regarding customize specification. Now a days every body can get those information from many source so what is the advantages does India have? Plus 36 planes don't make any real impact on Pakistan.
@Windjammer @Khafee

Configuration to what extent?
BS from Indians. The radar is the same, the EW practically the same, the interface will be the same and so on.

 

[My-Analogous]

So far Pakistani pilots have flown and familiarized themselves with most of India’s too fighters included a brief stint in the MKM(although that spectre has already been blown out of the sky.. literally).

It seems Pakistani familiarity with Indian aircraft is showing more than the F-16 obsession by India.
Once the JF-17 comes up, India will have to wait for Burma or Nigeria to give them an idea of what it can do.

So far there is no interest in PAF testing the Tejas, until they manage to build and fly more than 20 operational ones.


Configuration to what extent?
BS from Indians. The radar is the same, the EW practically the same, the interface will be the same and so on.

I was talking about if they change everything then

 

[SQ8]

I was talking about if they change everything then

They cannot.
What will they change in the Radar so much that it stops resembling the base model?
What will they change in the flight characteristics, weapons load, weapons systems and so on?

 

[Khafee]

I was talking about if they change everything then

You mean if they go for F4 specs? No they are stuck with F3 for now, identical to Egyptians & Qataris, don't worry.

https://www.defensenews.com/global/...ers-upgraded-rafale-warplanes-for-23-billion/

 

[My-Analogous]

You mean if they go for F4 specs? No they are stuck with F3 for now, identical to Egyptians & Qataris, don't worry.

https://www.defensenews.com/global/...ers-upgraded-rafale-warplanes-for-23-billion/

Thank you for confirming that

 

[zavis2003]

Indian Rafales comes with India specific customization.

Regarding the training, people should know that Singapore Airforce practices with IAF in India often and we also have access to F16's.

With Indian customization Rafales will turn into lethal Migs Three Two One and Down :p

 

[Counter-Errorist]

So far there is no interest in PAF testing the Tejas, until they manage to build and fly more than 20 operational ones.

Pakistanis test Tejas all the time, it's like driving a Mehran.

 

[kris]

Not entirely unexpected...
This would have happened today or tomorrow
Pakistani will definitely train against rafales of Qatar

 

[Safriz]

The first batch of pilots trained for Qatar in November 2017 were Pakistani exchange officers.

First Rafale Handed Over to Qatar
by Jon Lake
- February 13, 2019, 4:01 AM


VIPs from Qatar and France pose in front of the first Rafale to be handed over. The stylised Arab stallion graphic is the badge of the new Rafale squadron. (Photo: Dassault Aviation)
purchase of 24 Rafales (six of them two-seat trainers) in May 2015. A dozen more aircraft were added to the order in December 2017. Qatar’s Rafales differ in detail from those delivered to France and Egypt, and integration of the Lockheed Martin Sniper targeting pod and Elbit Systems TARGO-II helmet-mounted target designation system required extensive testing.

Qatar's Rafales are being supplied with a range of advanced weaponry, along with the Sniper advanced targeting pod. (Photo: Dassault Aviation)


The first Rafale DQ for Qatar, a two-seater, made its first flight on June 28, 2016, while the single-seat Rafale EQ flew for the first time on March 27, 2017. The aircraft are being supplied with MBDA MICA IR, MICA EM, and Meteor air-to-air missiles and with MBDA SCALP-EG cruise missiles and a range of air-to-ground weapons, including laser- and GPS-guided Safran AASM (Armement Air-Sol Modulaire) Hammer missiles.

Qatari personnel will be trained at Base Aérienne 118 Mont-de-Marsan in southwestern France, Rochefort, and the Joint Intelligence Training Institute in Strasbourg. The first batch of pilots trained for Qatar in November 2017 were Pakistani exchange officers. Escadron de Chasse 04.030 was established at Mont-de-Marsan as the Qatar Rafale Squadron on Oct. 1, 2017. The Amir of Qatar, Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad al Thani, visited the Qatari Rafale Squadron at Mont-de-Marsan on July 6, 2018, accompanied by French defense minister Florence Parly.

Under the SOUTEX program the Armee de l’Air is training 250 personnel who will man the first Qatari Rafale squadron. This unit will initially be commanded by a French officer until later this year when command will be transferred to a Qatari officer before the unit transfers to Qatar in the summer of 2020.

https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2019-02-13/first-rafale-handed-over-qatar

Jammi i did not get it?

Did the French actually train Pakistani citizens who were Exchange pilots in Qatari Air Force?

 

[koolzberg]

Don't worry we will remember to wear protection, when we penetrate miss India next.

Protection is alright, but don't you have your own to penetrate. Udhar bhi import.

 

[Black_Wind]

Protection is alright, but don't you have your own to penetrate. Udhar bhi import.

Yeah we got highly talented people who can persuade other easily so just sit back and relax..