Pakistani leadership in 1965 vs 2019

[BATMAN]

Speech of General Ayub in 1965 war, which was the main ingredient of the national spirit vs. statements and demoralizing attitude and calls of leadership, in 2019 war.

 

[BATMAN]

Despite having all the new HW, we clearly lack leadership.

Musharraf had no modern HW, with limited logistics and men, no operational airforce but he managed to hold all of Indian army and airforce, from their throats.
Indeed he was the tiger with nerves of steel with acumen of a genius.
What he pulled in 1999 is taught in American and India military text books.

 

[Flight of falcon]

No today we have the best , incorruptible , visionary leadership in the shape of Imran Khan.

The only difference is that during 1965 there was no Nawaz and his kanjar tubbar around to sell the country to India. Today the real threat comes from Nawaz and Zardari and Diesel who after raping their country are looking for someone to buy what is left of it.

But like Ayoub KHAN we have Imran KHAN to face the external and internal enemy and defeat them all.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Bajwa is spineless. We need lions like Raheel Sharif.

 

[Flight of falcon]

No we need someone who can prevent unnecessary war and answer in proportional response .....

 

[BATMAN]

No today we have the best , incorruptible , visionary leadership in the shape of Imran Khan.

Why he didn't gave permission to hit airborn Indian aircrafts, and Indian defense infrastructure on ground?

No we need someone who can prevent unnecessary war and answer in proportional response .....

What's the objective of so called proportional response, and how do you execute it?

Bajwa is spineless. We need lions like Raheel Sharif.

Sadly, he was occupied in WoT and since he was a Lion, he's not much appreciated by the mafia who actually pull strings of Imran Khan.

 

[Flight of falcon]

Listen bat boy you don’t fight a war when you had five billion foreign exchange and your daddy has taken all the money to London .....

You and Mastan khan would fight the key board war but the country will suffer..... but again being a Patwari why would you care what happens to the country.

 

[crankthatskunk]

my tweet to PM IK today, in response to his tweet to the Indians.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1208492293520547840

 

[El Sidd]

Speech of General Ayub in 1965 war, which was the main ingredient of the national spirit vs. statements and demoralizing attitude and calls of leadership, in 2019 war.

Ayub and Imran are similar when it comes to war.

Both had pro Indian tendencies before reality dawned on their wretched egocentric existence.

This Prime Minister should read the history that the international community did not save Belgium, Holland, Czechoslovakia and others.

Pakistan should use preemptive strategic deterrence to avert war.

 

[Death Professor]

Indeed he was the tiger with nerves of steel and acumen of a genius.

Nahh, Musharraf was more like a dog but resembled it only in filth and looks, not really in nature. Dogs are supposed to be loyal, he wasn't, well may be US but surely not Pakistan.

@The Eagle Not an abuse, he is giving an animal analogy, I am doing the same.

What he pulled in 1999 is taught in American and India military text books.

Yes, the one sided losses are taught every where. How we lost about 400 to 4000 lives which resulted in a defeat and embarrassment every where around the world.


What he pulled in 1999, deserved a court martial and nothing less.

Speech of General Ayub in 1965 war, which was the main ingredient of the national spirit vs. statements and demoralizing attitude and calls of leadership, in 2019 war.

Btw, do tell me then, why didn't Pakistan side with China in '62 Ind-China war. Current leadership isn't ____ like you and it is much smarter, much sensible than any of the previous leadership.


And about Musharaff the only thing he did was give interviews to Indian media in India. And to a ___ like you, it is bravery.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

Speech of General Ayub in 1965 war, which was the main ingredient of the national spirit vs. statements and demoralizing attitude and calls of leadership, in 2019 war.

U r a chutiya of highest order.
It was imran khan that gave orders/support or obeyed military orders to retaliate aggression. What did Nawaz sowar do to Indian aggression? Accepted their version of mumbai and many other attacks! In fact that pig-human hybrid did not even utter a word against India!
As for kashmir, India just used this card VERY! they first insured world wide support which india gained over the course of many years of strong relationship with even muslim world. And dont expect for Pakistan to go to war over kashmir and risk half a billion life over few million kashmiris.

Nahh, Musharraf was more like a dog but resembled it only in filth and looks, not really in nature. Dogs are supposed to be loyal, he wasn't, well may be US but surely not Pakistan.

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their is a difference between being traitor and loyal. Musharraf made many mistakes the biggest one was NRO deal. Also try to understand the dynamics of US policy for this region back in 2000s because WOT was at its peak and EVERY focking country was ready to obey US order in name of WOT and if pakistan had disagreed to any of US policy then you would not even see pakistan on world map today.
But musharraf was and is loyal to Pakistan.

 

[Death Professor]

their is a difference between being traitor and loyal. Musharraf made many mistakes the biggest one was NRO deal. Also try to understand the dynamics of US policy for this region back in 2000s because WOT was at its peak and EVERY focking country was ready to obey US order in name of WOT and if pakistan had disagreed to any of US policy then you would not even see pakistan on world map today.
But musharraf was and is loyal to Pakistan.

I have to disagree on this. If it was Bajwa or Raheel, things would have been different, but it wasn't them. Now surely you can say, my assumptions are in hindsight, but still mush didn't handled India or US properly. I am not suggesting he should have stood up against the Americans, most of us know that was impossible at that time. But he could/should have negotiated better, which he didn't/couldn't.

Do you remember mush was the one who initiated talks with India? not just talks but the media influence he gave out free to India was unthinkable. He let in the SAFMA dogs for free, he let in VoA for filling out younger gen's brain for free, he gave Geo free hand. It's not just US, alone from his Kargil misadventure to end of his term where he gave NRO, his actions only dragged Pakistan into more Chaos.

I can bet any capable general with a decent reasonable brain could have done 100 times better than him. And this particular individual praises Mush like he was some kind of an angel. I still doubt his loyalty he was an attention w___, I can bet even in his current medical condition if he is given a chance to give interview to Arnab Goswami he would do so.

 

[Yaseen1]

govt is incapable of handling things properly as become evident multiple times like extension of gen bajwa,failure to withdraw case against musharaf and appointment of good lawyer for musharaf which resulted in confrontation between institution and declining to visit malaysia summit as well as lack of strong and military support to kashmiris against india

 

[JonAsad]

Comparing 1965 to1999 and 2019 is unfair.
one was an all out war, other an incursion the other skirmish.

Besides Iran, Afghanistan were not a direct threat in first two.

Geopolitics, economy the list goes on.. its so wrong to compare on so many levels.

If you want to compare speeches compare to this winning one.. hands down.

 

[BATMAN]

govt is incapable of handling things properly as become evident multiple times like extension of gen bajwa,failure to withdraw case against musharaf and appointment of good lawyer for musharaf which resulted in confrontation between institution and declining to visit malaysia summit as well as lack of strong and military support to kashmiris against india

A person who has never worked a day in his life, is most certainly the most unsuitable person to hold top position in top office of a nuclear state.

This gang of jahils will never understand the value of planning and scheduling, they start working on issues, after it's dead line has been passed.

A country without functioning institutions will always be in trouble, but building institutions is not going to serve IK's obsession of personal glorification.