Pakistan under the Shadows of Terror II, Afghan Links

[Bill Longley]

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Pakistan has suffered more than any one in War against terrorism. With more than 2000 of its soldiers, along with thousands of other security men killed and thousands injured, it is still gallantly engage in rooting out terror from its soil and compare to US and NATO in Afghanistan is doing excellent.

Unfortunately time is proving that those who degraded Pakistan and pressurized it and accused “ it is not doing what it is required to do” are emerging as the powers behind terrorism in Pakistan. These powers have failed to do any positive thing in this war. In fact these powers have created more extremists and terrorist, then they were before 911. It’s really astonishing how un-civilized this civilize world is.

On September 11 2001, whole humanity was attacked not just US or Americans. It was very important to avenge this crime against humanity. There was also a need to analyze the root causes and policy failures which caused these hideous attacks.
World community failed on the day when it decided to act in brute only comparable to those sub humans who committed the Sep 11 crimes. Abo Gharib, Bagram and Guantanamo bay prison, collateral damage and killings for fun in Iraq and Afghanistan made this war as war between extremists. In intoxication of Power civilized world was became no batter then Al Qaeda and its allies.
No body bothered to see that may be it was reaction to double standards of great powers in Middle East, Sub continent or other areas where they are supporting aggressors and villainifying the aggrieved. Who in turn went to extreme leaving behind humanity?

After 911…. Afghanistan was invaded. Al Qaeda and Taliban were able to hide and so the revenge was allowed to be taken by US and it allies from Pashtuns. (For further read Great Game and Strategic Blunders, Story of Afghanistan)


Pakistan joined the war on terrorism immediately after the 911 attacks and gave full support to US and International community to catch criminals behind this international crime. First Pakistan tried to convince Taliban regime of Afghanistan to hand over Osama bin Laden and his deputies. But the illiterate Taliban failed to realize the gravity of situation and refused. This refusal forced Pakistan to break relations with them and share all intelligence information with world community and help them logistically against them.

By early 2002 the Taliban were completely ousted. They went hiding. Pakistan helped world to catch more then 4000 Al Qaeda terrorists amongst them some of its top leaders.

By 2002 due to Influx of Afghans from Afghanistan Pakistan started facing troubles. The bordering areas became regrouping areas for Taliban.
After invasion of Afghanistan, Pashtuns were targeted as all Pashtuns were Taliban. Pashtuns dwell both in Afghanistan and Pakistan. In some cases half family or tribe lives in Afghanistan and other in Pakistan. It was natural for Pashtuns to seek refuge from genocide by northern alliance, in Pakistan. Amongst these refugees were Taliban and Al Qaeda elements who found un governed Tribal areas , ideal place for regrouping and planning for their operations in Afghanistan and ells where.
Due to Pashtun blood line, Afghan refugees and Taliban got warm well come to from Pakistani tribal population. Pakistan tried its best to convince the tribals not to help or support Taliban but when this appeal failed, Pakistan Army was sent in to Tribal areas or FATA first time in its history, to stop Taliban infiltration and exfilteration.
Pakistan’s operations resulted in creation of local Taliban Groups. Most of them joined forces and made Tehrik e Taliban Pakistan headed by Baitullah Mahsud and Waziri Alliance headed by Hafiz Gul Bahader. Since 2003 Pakistan has lost thousands its sons in war against terrorism. The sacrifices of Pakistan are many times higher then US or NATO losses in Afghanistan.

It was thought in Past that Afghan Taliban were behind Tehrik e Taliban. They were said to be providing weapons and finances to TTP. Al though it was reported by Pakistani press that Mullah Omer ordered Baitullah Mahsud not to fight Pakistani forces because Pakistan is not under occupation but Afghanistan is and Sacked Baitullah Mahsud for his crimes.

Taliban chief Mullah Omar has sacked Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) chief Baitullah Mehsud for fighting against the Pakistan Army instead of with NATO forces, Asia Times Online reported on Friday.

The news website quoted Mullah Omar as telling other Taliban commanders to turn their focus on NATO forces stationed in Afghanistan. The sacking comes at a time when President Pervez Musharraf has launched an intense military operation against Baitullah in South Waziristan. Mullah Omar appointed Baitullah as TTP chief, according to the website.


In a more recent news Rahim ullah Yousaf zai, a prominent journalist was contacted by Taliban who revealed
Afghan Taliban declined a request for help from the militants in Swat by reminding them of their policy of non-interference in Pakistan’s affairs.

A senior Afghan Taliban official, requesting anonymity, contacted The News from an undisclosed location to confirm that they were approached by the Swati militants for help in their fight against Pakistan’s armed forces. “We told them that the Afghan Taliban have a standard policy not to interfere in Pakistan’s affairs. We reiterated our policy and requested the Swat Taliban not to involve us in Pakistan’s internal matters,” he explained.


Last year it was reported by a reliable source that a Jirga was held in Afghanistan in which Hizb i Islami Chief Gul Badin Hikmatyar ordered his group to shoot TTP people where ever they see them.

Now evidence and statements of Afghan Taliban confirms that Afghan Taliban never supported TTP. In fact they disputed TTP over its Takfiri Policy of attacking Pakistan.
It was reported in Pakistani press that in 2007 Amir Tehrik e Taliban Pakistan ran away to Afghanistan to escape Army operation, where he was contacted by RAW officials and after returning he started a brutal campaign of suicide bombings through out Pakistan.
Late Qari Zainuddin Mahsud and Turkistan Bhitani have also accused same thing. This claim about foreign hand in TTP terrorism is also supported by weapons captured by forces from Swat and Fata.
Its interesting that Rocket Launcher left by terrorists in 3/3 attack on Srilankan Cricket teem was also not used by Taliban in Afghanistan, but in use of Indian army.
In FATA and Pakistan Many foreign intelligence agencies are involve. They are the one who finance and support TTP. Nato US and Indian weapons have been recovered from terrorists.
In Past US never bothered to hit Baitullah Mahsud because it was beneficial to its interests .When at last it started hitting Mahsud group it due to change of Pakistani tone with it.


Pakistan is Under the Shadows of Terror, the same terror created by the very countries Pakistan is helping. Pakistan helped more then it can to help international community in Afghanistan. But in Return India and Afghan war lords were allowed to plan , equip and finance terrorists in Pakistani tribal areas and then to blame the terrorism on Afghan Taliban and incompetence of Pakistani Security establishment.
US and NATO knew it all along that their under controlled Afghanistan is being used against its ally but under intoxication of Power and greed for Strategic interests in region, pretended and pretend that they don’t see any evil.
On other hand ,drone attacks on Pakistani Soil are creating more Terrorists. Badal is Part of Pashtun Culture and a Pathan always take revenge.

Badal (justice/revenge) - to seek justice over time or over space to avenge a wrong. This applies to injustices committed yesterday or 1000 years ago if the wrongdoer still exists. Justice in Pashtun lore needs elaborating: even a mere taunt (or "Paighor") is regarded as an insult - which can only usually be redressed by shedding of the taunter's blood (and if he isn't available, then his next closest male relation). This in turn leads to a blood feud that can last generations and involve whole tribes with the loss of hundreds of lives. Normally blood feuds in this all male dominated setup are then settled in a number of ways.

By drone attacks at one side Pakistani sovereignty is violated and bitterness against US is forced in Pakistani minds, on other Tribal people are forced to join anti Pakistan and US forces. I don’t think US is that stupid to commit such mistakes? Every thing which is happening is according to wider Plan. May be that’s exactly civilized west behaves with its Friends
Pakistan is victim of Terrorism. Pakistanies are victims of terrorism financed by its neighbors and friends. It needs a strong Nationalistic Leader ship to bring it out of Shadows of terror.

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[muse]

Pakistan Tops List of Challenges, Gates Says
By Samantha L. Quigley
American Forces Press Service

WASHINGTON, Sept. 8, 2009 – Of all the challenges and potential problems the United States faces, Pakistan tops Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates’ priority list, he said yesterday.

“[Pakistan faces] a lot of problems right now,” he said during an interview on the “Charlie Rose Show” on PBS. “I think … they have always thought of India as the existential threat to Pakistan, [but] I think they are beginning to understand that the extremists in the ungoverned spaces in their west have become an existential threat.”

Going forward in the Middle East, the United States will be looking for ways to strengthen its partnership with Pakistan, Gates said, such as helping the country with some of its economic problems. At the same time, he added, Pakistan will be encouraged to take action in some of its ungoverned spaces in the western part of the country, where the Taliban and al-Qaida have taken sanctuary.

The situation in western Pakistan was caused, in part, by the withdrawal of Pakistani soldiers, Gates said.

“Now, the Pakistanis are back in the fight,” he added. “They have been an important source of support for us. Almost all of our supplies, about 80 percent of our dry cargo, moves through Pakistan to Afghanistan, and they have helped provide protection for the convoys.”

Pakistan’s intelligence service, the ISI, has cooperated or worked with many of the extremist groups operating in the western part of the country as a method of keeping a handle on them, Gates said, but now the country’s new leadership has a decision to make.

“They really have to make up their minds now that … those groups are a threat, not a hedge,” he said. “And they really have to get in the fight against [those groups] as well.”

The Pakistani government also understands that if U.S. citizens are attacked, and there’s reliable information it originated in Pakistan, the United States will respond, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who also was on the program, said.

“It’s a conversation I’ve had many times -- not just with military leadership, but also with political leadership -- that any president of the United States would respond to an attack on U.S. citizens,” Navy Adm. Mike Mullen said. “They understand that very clearly, and they don’t disagree with that.

“I think you’re at the heart of dealing with the most difficult part of the problems we have there, where we have this safe haven in a sovereign country that is threatening [and] plotting against Americans and other Western countries, and it must be eliminated,” Mullen added. “Ideally, that would come through the pressure that the Pakistanis bring to eliminate that threat.”

And Pakistan plays an important role in success or failure in Afghanistan, Gates said.

“I think one of the challenges that faces the new administration is, in fact, to decide what our objectives are in Afghanistan, and whether some of our objectives may reach too far into the future in terms of being idealistic,” Gates said. “I think everybody agrees that’s got to be our highest priority in Afghanistan: to keep it from becoming a safe haven again.

“But that’s easier said than done, and it can’t just be a military solution,” he added. “We also have to help them try and build a government and try and develop their society … and to improve their governance.”

One of his biggest concerns in Afghanistan, Gates said, is how the Afghan people view the American military. If too many U.S. forces are in the country, the United States could come to be seen as “in it for ourselves, and not as their ally, and they can turn against us,” Gates said.

“As long as the Afghan people see us as … in this fight for them as well as for ourselves, then I think we’ll be OK,” he added. “So I think the solution for us when all is said and done is we must accelerate the growth of the Afghan army and get the Afghan army in the lead where we are helping them and partnering with them.”

Though it may sound similar to the situation in Iraq, Gates warned about drawing analogies between the two countries. They are economically worlds apart, he noted, with the Iraqi government having revenues close to $70 billion and Afghanistan closer to $700 million.

“Afghanistan is a desperately poor country, and when you talk about reconstruction in Afghanistan, it’s really a euphemism for construction,” Gates said. “We’re building some of the first paved roads in the history of Afghanistan. So the challenges, I think, in Afghanistan are more complex than they were in Iraq.”

Mullen agreed that success in Afghanistan must involve a multi-layered diplomatic solution.

While giving credit to the NATO allies who have provided capabilities in Afghanistan, he added that the requirements in Afghanistan are broad and varied.

“We need police trainers, and there are plenty of countries in Europe that do that exceptionally well. We need individuals not in the military who could take care of training ministries at all levels,” he said. “We need development experts, whether it’s in agriculture or other industries that would apply in that … country.

“So we need a lot of help across a full spectrum of capabilities, not just the military side,” he added.

While Mullen wouldn’t say the United States is winning the war against the Taliban in Afghanistan, he said he thinks it’s winnable, though it will mean having U.S. troops on the ground. He also expects the violence -- and, as a result, casualties -- to rise.

“We don’t do this without understanding those risks as well,” Mullen said. “The one thing I kind of focus on when I think about this is we’re not there to occupy Afghanistan. We’re not there to run Afghanistan. We’re there … to train and develop and let the Afghan security forces, particularly the army, take the lead.”

 

[Fracker]

On September 11 2001, whole humanity was attacked not just US or Americans.

A drama made by US to get Afghanistan, that's why before any investigation done.. just after 3 hrs USA president announced the attack on afghanistan, while after 1st attack he was sitting calmly (like nothing happened). It was only done to Attack on humanity, rather then attack on US.

But the illiterate Taliban failed to realize the gravity of situation and refused.

Like whole world didn't see, Taliban 1st asked for the evidences, which US didn't given to them, and then actually offered OBL, just wanted to be trailed in islamic country.. Still when US didn't change their attitude, they said we are asking OBL and Co. to leave the country.. and then USA attacked Afghanistan, before Taliban could do what they said..

A fool could point out what was main purpose of 9/11, but whole world put blind eye on USA and NATO brutallity in Afghanistan then Iraq.. and now the result we can see.. daily 1 attack in Iraq which kills many muslims, similarly pakistan is also effected from same.. The mess created by USA (who never stopped fighting after WW II), is now we have to handle.. of course who don't know which weapons are used by terrorists in this war.. those also belong to US, the money circulating also comes from USA and india (who is helping to improve terrorism in pakistan, and US is also clearly supporting it).. still "Pakistan need to do more"...

To me, US is the key to terrorism, and that the "war on terror" is actually "war to rise terror". and last, till we have USA in afghanistan, and Northern alliance in the government, India will not stop interfering in pakistan..

 

[Bill Longley]

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To me, US is the key to terrorism, and that the "war on terror" is actually "war to rise terror". and last, till we have USA in afghanistan, and Northern alliance in the government, India will not stop interfering in pakistan..

I totally agree US is worlds number 1 terrorist and it creates terrorists

Japan in last days of world war was willing to lay arms but US still used atomic bombs on them.(willium Blum)

it is helping Is(it) real in pogrom of palistinians

it has taken Iraq back to 18th century

talk about any crime which it has not committed against humanity

 

[muse]

US won’t abandon Afghanistan and Pakistan again, says Gates

Daily Times Monitor

LAHORE: Afghanistan and Pakistan “can count on us for the long term”, US Defence Secretary Robert Gates has said.

In an interview with Al Jazeera television, Gates said the US had made a “serious strategic mistake” in turning its focus away from Afghanistan after the Soviet occupation forces were defeated. He said it would not repeat the mistake. “I believe we’ve learned our lesson.”

As US government weighs whether to deploy more US troops to Afghanistan, he said he remained undecided, “There are issues on both sides of [the argument] and, frankly, I haven’t made up my own mind at this point in terms of whether more forces are needed.”

Gates was scheduled to meet US President Barack Obama on Tuesday to briefly discuss the assessment provided last week by the top US commander in Afghanistan, Gen Stanley McChrystal. Defence officials said he had received comments on the assessment from senior military leaders including Adm Michael Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Gen David Petraeus, head of the Central Command. Gates acknowledged that the growing number of casualties in Afghanistan have weakened public support for the war. He added, though, that an early withdrawal is out of the question. He said the US military had recognised as early as 2005 that violence was escalating in Afghanistan but was unable to bolster forces there because of troop commitments in Iraq. “As we have drawn down in Iraq, more capability has become available