Pakistan interested in KORKUT Self-Propelled Air Defense System

[Skyliner]

Pakistan & TR arasinda TSK'nin envanterine alacagindan bile fazla sayida Korkut HSS tedarigi icin gorusmeler suruyor

Word by word :

Negotiations between Pakistan and Turkey are going on;
the number is more than Turkey wanted to take in own stocks !

What are the numbers Turkey ordered for itself!

 

[Thorough Pro]

why do we want guns and not short/medium range missiles to protect our advancing armoured columns from indian CAS and attack helos? how effective these ACK ACK's are these days?

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Translation (!?): talks going on to procure Korkut HSS in numbers even more than what's intended for the Turkish Armed Forces....

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

why do we want guns and not short/medium range missiles to protect our advancing armoured columns from indian CAS and attack helos? how effective these ACK ACK's are these days?

You'd generally want redundancy, but anti-air guns (AAG) are useful for very short-range and low-altitude engagement; they can act as quasi-CIWS, help against targets with self-protective suites (that might jam radars and/or scuttle infrared), etc. Modern AAG such as the Korkut can be tied to one's radar, which can automatically direct the AAG to those targets. Pair these AAG with the command-line-of-sight HQ-7s and/or short-to-medium-range terminal-homing SAM - e.g. Hisar or Umkhonto - and you have a solid low-altitude air defence layer.

 

[Imad.Khan]

The probable reason could be that missiles are more expensive than the shells used in these guns.

 

[Riz]

Can the nevel version kill brahamus?

 

[ziaulislam]

yeah it seem Pak army is aiming big
we expect 3-4 billion dollars in different deals including tanks, helicopters, new 155mm artillery, new rifles, self propelled artillery, AA guns, SAMs, more helicopters infact we are looking at 3 different platforms

looks that behavior of PAk army treating navy and air forces has not changed, or we might have alot of financing all of sudden

 

[Thorough Pro]

Which jet or Heli is going to come within 2/3 kilometers range of a armoured unit to fire anti-tank missiles with 5+ km range? If they can fire their missiles from 5+km away we need missiles that can fire at those aerial assets from 10/15 km away

You'd generally want redundancy, but anti-air guns (AAG) are useful for very short-range and low-altitude engagement; they can act as quasi-CIWS, help against targets with self-protective suites (that might jam radars and/or scuttle infrared), etc. Modern AAG such as the Korkut can be tied to one's radar, which can automatically direct the AAG to those targets. Pair these AAG with the command-line-of-sight HQ-7s and/or short-to-medium-range terminal-homing SAM - e.g. Hisar or Umkhonto - and you have a solid low-altitude air defence layer.

 

[HAIDER]

Based on M113. Pak has foundation for this machine.

What's the significance of acquiring these? Pakistan already has air defence systems in place for the low range role.

Not really, Pak already has Swedish system for low flying objects and lot others. May be just for testing.

 

[Rocky rock]

We shouldn't waste our money on this system. We already have several types of LADs and AAG orkelin is doing fine we've already got the new auto version with Radars.

 

[Rocky rock]

Can the nevel version kill brahamus?

Brahmos is supersonic cruise missile can't be eliminate with AAG. One must need supersonic missile defence system.

 

[war&peace]

So is it like iron dome?

 

[CriticalThought]

Combat on the LoC is done using Anti-Aircraft guns pointed at enemy barracks. Looks like PA is looking to rip the Indians apart with vengeance.

 

[Arsalan]

Korkut maximum firing range is 4 km that's mean it is only effective against helicopters while Pakistan already have a short range sam

What's the significance of acquiring these? Pakistan already has air defence systems in place for the low range role.

why do we want guns and not short/medium range missiles to protect our advancing armoured columns from indian CAS and attack helos? how effective these ACK ACK's are these days?

Anti-aircraft guns can fire shells that are dirt cheap compared to the surface to air missiles. The automatic controls, target identification and tracking via radar, automated fire direction computation, self-propulsion and technologies like this are keeping the AAA relevant in today's times. These radar guided, automatic, self-propelled once are meant to protect the forward deployments and the attack/defense formations on the move. A good additions.

Some people here were talking about Pakistan getting TOR and Pantsir and what not, however these AAA seem to be most probable procurement for extreme low level air-defense of mechanized forces and mobile formations. Cheap and effective.

So is it like iron dome?

NO!

 

[SQ8]

Just because they use bullets does not mean they are insanely effective against missiles.

Sure, it gets close range but certain weapon systems like the pantsir can take down gps guided bombs and anti radiation missiles on the other end of the spectrum

Projectiles like the ahead ammunition used by PA for oerlikon is devestating to the thin skins of missiles.

The issue for this gun is what detection and targeting system will it be coupled with