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Pak passport fourth-worst in global ranking

How easy is it to get a business or student visa for an average Pakistani to the wealthy Western countries? I think that matters more than this ranking.

It depends on who you are. The rich and the powerful have no problems getting visas. Plus, there are many Pakistanis who hold dual nationality, so they can use their Western passports to travel when a Pakistani passport won't do.
 
I never had any issues getting a visa. Dont submit bogus documents and you will have no problems. Easy

Also visa travel is something your government negotiates with another country. For some reason whenever a leader comes to PK this is never discussed. Its always the usual trade increase talk.
 
Pakistan below Yemen....vetting process can't b right
 
A little too much dramabaazi in this thread.

Main reasons our passport has less visa free or visa on arrival destinations.

1. Abuse of Pakistani passports by Afghans. NADRA compromised and were ignoring it. These guys travel to Western countries on Pakistani passports and then claim asylum as Afghans.

2. Our own travellers in Western countries are often here dodgy and get cuaght. We have loads of overstayers, fake students - all working illegally. This is especially true in UK, Spain, France, Italy, USA, Canada - basically wherever we have an established community.

3. Govt doesn't make an effort to reach out to foreign countries and offer such visas to them and in turn ask for ours in a reciprocal manner.

Take India for example. Ranked 84th. They have visa free travel to all broke *** nations and tiny islands. Apart from maybe Iran, Jordan, Qatar and Indonesia.

But it doesn't matter. They offer the same to many many more. People go to India - Indians have the choice to go Fiji or Rwanda to do business.

These broke countries won't be broke forever. Rawanda for example is up and coming. They're making opportunity for thier people.

Our govt just scratches these...

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Mai tu souch raha hun, Apne Green passport pe Oil paint le ker blue color ker lun aur 2-4 pages apni wife ke American passport se phar ke squash tape se chipka dun :D
 
But IK hasn't improved it as well. Our relations with west are still bad. Even with muslim countries not as good as they used to be once upon a time.

2 decades of war, nation with many people who depicts jihadi mindset, also has put a major dent on our passport. People in Pak must end their ummah chummah mentality, should end support to all radical groups including taliban (atleast end moral support). Come out of extremism, the likes of TLP and blashmphemy killers (end blashphemy laws which are no-where in the world). Live as other people in muslim countries live then we will see improvement in this list.. Otherwise remain with Afghanistan forever.
Respect for passports are not earned by the Governments instead they are earned by people.
Looking at what kind of people are coming out of Pakistan and rapidly multiplying population full of jahalat and poverty the ranking is understandable and will continue to get worse over time.
No Government can change that.
 
What is the criteria of evaluation of Passport?
On What basis is passport's ranking is determined they are all merely a travel document

What differentiates each is how well he Nation issuing passport has relations with other country where the person is travelling from


Is the criteria for measurement as follow ?
  • Country to Country , easy travel agreements?
  • Country to Country , money carrying allowance ?
  • Number of Flights between two countries ?
  • Visa free travel to country to country travel?
  • Accuracy of Data on Passport reducing manual checks for selected travelers?
  • Biometric Passport / Using Latest chip based Passports ?
  • Economic Strength Index for Nation ?

Because unless you know what is being evaluated how can you go about fixing something ?


The lower grade or index is not ideal because
  • Pakistan now issues a more advance Passport with security Chip
  • NADRA does a pretty decent job with it's software system
  • Terrorism has dropped in Pakistan since the Rad-Ul Fassad operations
  • Pakistan's economy is on Upward trend


Reference:

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Visa Required Designation is certainly a hindrance for Pakistan , as 158 Nations of world do not allow Pakistani Citizens into their country unless a Visa Application is made
  • Costs money
  • Costs time to Evaluate & Check the credentials of the person applying for visa


In order for improvements to happen the foreign Office need to move their asses and ensure new agreements are made with nations , so our favorable position is realized in world





1- Red Color Nations in Map below don't allow Pakistanis Direct Entry
2- Few African countries allow Pakistanis in with Visa on Arrival at Airport
3- Poor Nations of Nepal/Cambodia and Madagascar allow Visa on Arrival
4- Few Poor African Countries in Africa allow Pakistanis in to the country visa on arrival
5- Qatar only country in Middle East which gives visa on Arrival to Pakistani
6- Poor country of Haiti offers visa free travel to Pakistani

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The passport status shows our Pakistani public failure & little of govt and security forces failure.
 
Respect for passports are not earned by the Governments instead they are earned by people.
Looking at what kind of people are coming out of Pakistan and rapidly multiplying population full of jahalat and poverty the ranking is understandable and will continue to get worse over time.
No Government can change that.
True.. but governments can set direction of the nation and ultimately influence it. I believe our downfall started after Zia's regime. When government enforce radicalization, laws which are no where on earth and targets minorities, then extreme portion of the society are encouraged by these actions. That type of governments discourage innovation, cultural exchanges, healthy discussions and make room for a mindset which is destructive. The government needs to take bold steps to rectify nation;s down fall.

If we don't want to follow west atleast we can take example from muslim countries. There are muslim countries with powerful passports plus many foreigners visit those countries. These countries earn Billions with tourism. Like Turkey, Malaysia, indonesia, UAE etc.
 
What is the criteria of evaluation of Passport?
On What basis is passport's ranking is determined they are all merely a travel document

What differentiates each is how well he Nation issuing passport has relations with other country where the person is travelling from


Is the criteria for measurement as follow ?
  • Country to Country , easy travel agreements?
  • Country to Country , money carrying allowance ?
  • Number of Flights between two countries ?
  • Visa free travel to country to country travel?
  • Accuracy of Data on Passport reducing manual checks for selected travelers?
  • Biometric Passport / Using Latest chip based Passports ?
  • Economic Strength Index for Nation ?

Because unless you know what is being evaluated how can you go about fixing something ?


The lower grade or index is not ideal because
  • Pakistan now issues a more advance Passport with security Chip
  • NADRA does a pretty decent job with it's software system
  • Terrorism has dropped in Pakistan since the Rad-Ul Fassad operations
  • Pakistan's economy is on Upward trend
What is the criteria of evaluation of Passport?
On What basis is passport's ranking is determined they are all merely a travel document

What differentiates each is how well he Nation issuing passport has relations with other country where the person is travelling from


Is the criteria for measurement as follow ?
  • Country to Country , easy travel agreements?
  • Country to Country , money carrying allowance ?
  • Number of Flights between two countries ?
  • Visa free travel to country to country travel?
  • Accuracy of Data on Passport reducing manual checks for selected travelers?
  • Biometric Passport / Using Latest chip based Passports ?
  • Economic Strength Index for Nation ?

Because unless you know what is being evaluated how can you go about fixing something ?


The lower grade or index is not ideal because
  • Pakistan now issues a more advance Passport with security Chip
  • NADRA does a pretty decent job with it's software system
  • Terrorism has dropped in Pakistan since the Rad-Ul Fassad operations
  • Pakistan's economy is on Upward trend

I think, this list mainly focuses on how many countries you can visit Visa free. The country can improve on this list when other countries are convinced that people from your country are no more involved in terror related activities and on average can takecare for themselves when visiting their country. Means they are financially strong.
Many countries can have concerns (perhaps rightly so to some extent) that pakistanis are visiting only to settle in that country with visit visa and they have no intention to go back.

Secondly, we unfortunately till date remain in news for the all the wrong reasons..
 
Think about it

The ranking puts Pakistan together with

  • Somalia , which has no economy , and often their are civil war dangers
  • Iraq which had endured war between 2005-2012
  • Syria which endured full scale war between 2010-2018
  • Yamen again going thru Civil War

Meanwhile in Pakistan
  • There is no war going on in Pakistan
  • There has been no terror incident in Pakistan over 10 years
  • Pakistan is in process to lock down border with Afghanistan
  • We have a Digital / Electronic passport which can't be easily copy backed by Technology
  • On Wealth index Pakistanis do have certain amount of Financial Standing which is better then many other country's above it

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The Visa requirements put , a dent in expanding Business scope for exports in my opinion and should be looked into because if Businessman / Women can't travel outside to buy/sell goods and get quick visa Exports will suffer it is a no brainer

Example : Visa delays last 15-30 days how can someone spend 15 days to clear visa if they are import export agricultural goods ? the food stock will rot away
  • Pakistan needs Quick Visa agreement on Arrival at Airport , for Business members with legitimate import/export license
 
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