Pak court orders release of Hafiz Saeed

[Laozi]

Nah. We don't need it. We have far better options like IK.

We don't need jahil chai wala. you needed him since you are nation that lives, eats and sleeps on fascism.

The question is that how can you stop someone ?'

Have you ever needed Zardari or Sharif ?

 

[Areesh]

The question is that how can you stop someone ?'

Have you ever needed Zardari or Sharif ?

Both zardari or sharif were never accused of conspiring to kill their own people.

No comparison.

 

[captainvancouver]

Pakistan should just go ahead and murder Kulbhashan. I mean you kidnapped him, tortured him and trialed him in a kangaroo court without proper representation or counselor access. Let him see his wife and mother and then murder him to hide your own crimes on him.

 

[That Guy]

Finally Pakistan found enough courage to end this sham.

What sham? Give Pakistan proof, and Pakistan will prosecute him. Pakistan has been making excuses to not release him, but you cannot hold someone for so long, without any sort of evidence.

Give Pakistan evidence, and Hafiz Saeed may even get the death penalty. The only one playing games here is India; From refusing to let Pakistani investigators conduct their jobs properly, to refusing to give evidence to Pakistan, which India has constantly claimed it has.

Even you can't deny that what India has been doing is ridiculous.

 

[captainvancouver]

How can Pakistan trial Hafiz Saeed. When all he was doing is following ISI orders. He's a strategic asset who will be used as long as he follows orders and is useful.

 

[Areesh]

Except neither the Sena nor Thackrey is listed as terrorist or terror organization anywhere in the world including Pakistan.

True.

But your own government in its investigations has accused Thackrey of taking active part in anti minority riots and killings.

Remember Sri Krishna Commision?

http://wonderfulmumbai.com/justice-srikrishna-report-on-mumbai-riots-of-1992-1993/

But despite all that when this b@stard died, your country gave him a state funeral.

Banana state??? Well definitely India is.

 

[That Guy]

Pakistan should just go ahead and murder Kulbhashan. I mean you kidnapped him, tortured him and trialed him in a kangaroo court without proper representation or counselor access. Let him see his wife and mother and then murder him to hide your own crimes on him.

He was a spy; under the "Agreement on consular access between the Government of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan and the Government of the Republic of India" 6th clause, Pakistan is perfectly within its right to try and sentence him. Basically, spies don't have any rights.

You can pretend otherwise, but we both know that he was a spy. India has claimed he was kidnapped, and says it has proof, yet no one has seen it.

What we do know is that Yadhav was caught with fake documentations, and Iran has not complained about any sort of Pakistani activity in Iran, which Iran has said that it would investigate Indian activity against Pakistan.

There is also no evidence that he was tortured, that's total garbage accusation.

The fact that Pakistan is even letting him see his wife and mother is something that India should be thankful for, as even that is a major security issue.

How can Pakistan trial Hafiz Saeed. When all he was doing is following ISI orders. He's a strategic asset who will be used as long as he follows orders and is useful.

Give Pakistan evidence, that India keeps claiming to have, but refuses to hand over.

These excuses by India are lame, their purpose to divert attention from their own incompetence.

We all know Hafiz Saeed is guilty, which is why he's been constantly detained, but unless India can prove their claims, Pakistan has little choice but to release him. Why expect Pakistan to do, what even Indian courts would find hard to do itself?

 

[captainvancouver]

That is 100% factually wrong. According to the ICJ he should have had counsellor access. Pakistan argued that he shouldn't, but the motion was denied.

"Pakistan's lawyers argued that Jadhav was denied consular access because the issue was one of national security. The argument was rejected by the ICJ."

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/...bhushan-jadhav-execution-170518103428390.html

 

[That Guy]

That is 100% factually wrong. According to the ICJ he should have had counsellor access. Pakistan argued that he shouldn't, but the motion was denied.

"Pakistan's lawyers argued that Jadhav was denied consular access because the issue was one of national security. The argument was rejected by the ICJ."

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/...bhushan-jadhav-execution-170518103428390.html

Even if you argue that, it still doesn't change the fact that he's a spy, thus Pakistan's trial of him is perfectly within its right. Even if he was innocent of being a spy, he still crossed into Pakistan illegally, with fake documentation. Even if we were to believe that he didn't have fake documentations, he still crossed into Pakistan illegally. Even if we were to believe that he didn't cross illegally, why has Iran not protested against Pakistan's alleged kidnapping? Even if he was just a merchant, why has India not been able to prove he was kidnapped?

See, no matter how you pay this game, nothing changes. You can argue semantics and the finer points all you want, but the reality is that he's a spy, and the ICJ also needs to give a valid reason for its judgement, which if it doesn't give, Pakistan can successfully a peal, after the trial, and by the wall way it hasn't given a valid reasoning for its decisions so far. Even rejecting India's time extension wad a questionable judgment.

 

[oOo]

Yeah, the bounty is something to verify the ones take. Heard that Indians put bounty on an actress this time. How come announcing a bounty proves a person being right & wrong however, India can place as much as it wants to.

Except that rogue Indians are not comparable to UN or Head of other states. I have heard rogue states rewarding people who bring them chopped heads of enemy countrymen.

But as I said, let the man enjoy freedom in Pakistan.

True.

But your own government in its investigations has accused Thackrey of taking active part in anti minority riots and killings.

Remember Sri Krishna Commision?

http://wonderfulmumbai.com/justice-srikrishna-report-on-mumbai-riots-of-1992-1993/
http://wonderfulmumbai.com/justice-srikrishna-report-on-mumbai-riots-of-1992-1993/

http://wonderfulmumbai.com/justice-srikrishna-report-on-mumbai-riots-of-1992-1993/

I am not a fan of these goons, but I dont buy comparing apple with oranges either. LeT is an international terrorist organization involved in cross border acts. As you wrote, he was accused of riots, and I would not even contest whether he was involved or not, he may very well be, he was a goon after all, a local goon.

But despite all that when this b@stard died, your country gave him a state funeral.

He didn't die a death of convict but politician of ruling party. But the hate you show for a local goon of another country but keep cherishing an international one of yours is certainly telling.

Banana state??? Well definitely India is.

On PDF, definitely.

 

[Areesh]

I am not a fan of these goons, but I dont buy comparing apple with oranges either. LeT is an international terrorist organization involved in cross border acts. As you wrote, he was accused of riots, and I would not even contest whether he was involved or not, he may very well be, he was a goon after all, a local goon.

LeT kills Indian soldiers. Thackrey killed Indian civilians. Thackrey is worst of the two.

And it is your own commission that accused him of direct involvement in riots and massacre.

He didn't die a death of convict but politician of ruling party. But the hate you show for a local goon of another country but keep cherishing an international one of yours is certainly telling.

He died as someone who rules one of the most important states of India. He should have died as a convict but then it is India. He got away like Modi and others.

On PDF, definitely.

In reality. Or else who gives state funerals to a "local goon".

 

[oOo]

LeT kills Indian soldiers.

No Argument left if this is what your understanding of LeT is.

He died as someone who rules one of the most important states of India. He should have died as a convict but then it is India. He got away like Modi and others.

Again your concern for a foreign local goon while shielding an international one is quite telling.

In reality. Or else who gives state funerals to a "local goon".

Of course in reality of PDFland. However outside that, it will be quite easy for me to reproduce humongous number of articles and report by learned people discussing failed state and banana republics, but then its you who will dislike them the most.

Let me be a nice guest on PDF.

 

[Areesh]

No Argument left if this is what your understanding of LeT is.

That's what the fact is.

Again your concern for a foreign local goon while shielding an international one is quite telling.

Funny you try to give this fancy name of goon for a terrorist and mass murder.

I only have concern when you tried to normalize that guy. Or else nobody cares.

Of course in reality of PDFland. However outside that, it will be quite easy for me to reproduce humongous number of articles and report by learned people discussing failed state and banana republics, but then its you who will dislike them the most.

Let me be a nice guest on PDF.

Only banana republic gives state funerals to a "goon". There is nothing to even debate here.

 

[Chhatrapati]

Nothing surprising. LeT and JeM are good terrorists.

 

[The Eagle]

Except that rogue Indians are not comparable to UN or Head of other states. I have heard rogue states rewarding people who bring them chopped heads of enemy countrymen.

But as I said, let the man enjoy freedom in Pakistan.

Except that the same is not rouge in case of India because there people chopping head or lynching others is actually in favour of hindutva mindset so to say that, everything is right when it is done in India. The man or whosoever relieved by the Court will definitely enjoy the freedom in Pakistan as an independent country. The one whosoever has to worry about, is resident in India whether someone may not chop the head due to a movie, alleged beef, a journalist or a low caste found in high caste temple while worshiping. I don't know the exact reason but some people are really like to be reminded again & again that in this case, samjhota express culprit is set free as so much of rouge nation.

Well, hand him over to Punjab police and get a custom-made confession of your liking

Whosoever to be handed, still, evidence provided was not actionable as compare to KY. People has to see the writing on the wall.