PAF Still Holds Record For F-16 Induction

[loanranger]

I will arrange the equation like this;

Pakistani>Indian=Isreal>Arab

Ok

 

[Windjammer]

Don't forget to add Afghans and Soviets in the table.

 

[Raider 21]

Don't forget to add Afghans and Soviets in the table.

Missing Antonov for the Soviet Afghan war

 

[Windjammer]

Missing Antonov for the Soviet Afghan war

As well as the Alize ASW of Indian Navy.

 

[blain2]

PAF Pilots are of very high caliber, commented the Instructor who trained the initial batch of Six PAF pilots on the F-16 Fighting Falcons. According to the author, these comments had even more significance since same USAF Instructor had both American and Israeli Pilots in the course. After nearly Forty Years, this disclosure becomes more apparent as it's said that for nearly four decades, PAF holds the record, as no other Airforce has inducted the F-16s in such a short span of time as did the PAF. While European Air Arms took Four Years and the Israelis completed it in 3.5 Years, the PAF did it in 18 Months. Albeit, this news was carried by few aviation journals at the time however, recently it was confirmed by one of the first 10 pilots who went to US for training (after the first 6, 4 more went who were known as the First 10 Foreign Students). Incredible!!

I happened to talk to one of the USAF IP's from the initial batches. He was all praise and put the Pakistani bunch at the top of his list of all the nationalities they had trained. This gentlemen used to frequent F-16.net at later stages as well.

However what is in the past is in the past, the hope is with the young generation. They are flying much more capable platforms with a ton more workload. The hope is for this generation to blaze the trail for the PAF.

See this as well, credit AC Kaiser Tufail for a very interesting writeup on the next generation of F-16 jocks in the PAF:

Reliving the Past - Veterans Fly the F-16

A call from the Vice Chief of Air Staff asking me if I wanted to fly the F-16 got an immediate positive response, notwithstanding the fact that I had last flown the F-16 three decades ago. The stated objective was for a few retired veterans to assess the capabilities of the much modified fighter, as well as its young pilots, from a ‘then and now’ perspective – a sort of evaluation by independent auditors. It seemed like a great idea coming from the Chief of Air Staff, and was certainly ‘out-of-the-box.’


Four of us veterans (an Air Marshal, two Air Vice Marshals, and me, an Air Commodore) were flown to an F-16 Base in a special executive jet. Soon after a smart welcome on arrival, we were huddled into the auditorium for a crisp mission briefing by the Squadron Commander of No 9 Squadron, Wg Cdr Yasir Shafiq. The brief was rich in techno-jargon and fancy terms we had never heard before while flying the no-frills Block-15 version. It was quite apparent that the tactics and employment methods had transformed significantly after the Mid-Life Upgrade (MLU) on the F-16s. We were to be introduced to Beyond Visual Range (BVR) intercepts, as well as Stand-off Laser Guided Bombing (dummy attacks) with the help of the Sniper Advanced Targeting Pod. Some flying time was also reserved for us to throw around the aircraft, and assess for ourselves the workings of our aging sinew and muscle.

Some time was spent struggling into our old flying coveralls that we had brought along, though the anti-G suits and helmets were new, as our old ones were either unserviceable, or could not fit over our none-too-slender appendages. When we were all garbed up, we felt an inexplicable transformation that made us feel like the coolest hot rods, no matter that we were all well-established sexagenarians.

Cockpit procedures and strapping up seemed routine, except for the almost arthritic inability to twist around and select the oxygen switch at the extreme rear of the right hand panel. Taxiing out in pairs, we lined up and did the engine run up checks. With the Squadron Commander in the lead, the first F-16 rolled for take-off, with us as No 2 following 10 seconds later. Thoroughly excited as the five stages of the afterburner cut in an unbroken sequence, I was slammed against the seat as the aircraft roared away, with Sqn Ldr Sami at the controls in the front seat. As a special favour, the Squadron Commander had allowed us a rocket trajectory take-off, perhaps recalling my penchant for such astronautics from previous years. Exhilaration knew no bounds as we zoomed up to our exercise altitude, and split up to start an interception.

Instead of the single Radar Electro-Optical scope of the older version, the MLU aircraft has two Multi-Function Displays that can show radar and navigation-map data. The display was hard to interpret without proper ground schooling, as it had all kinds of target data available. Radar information from AWACs, ground radars and other formation members can be shared through data link, providing the pilot with a complete three-dimensional all-around coverage or the ‘God’s eye view.’ Situational awareness of pilots has never been better, but requires exceptional abilities to interpret the plethora of symbols and numbers usefully. Those skills were evident as Sami gave me a running commentary of the target (leader’s aircraft), as we ran through the intercept geometry. Used to shooting aircraft in visual ranges, I was amazed to learn that the fight was over not long after the aircraft appeared on the radar scope! It had been ‘knocked’ out by a simulated BVR missile far beyond the eyes could see. The fire control computer was constantly providing information on the shrinking and expanding ‘dynamic launch zone’ as the target tried to out-turn the missile, which of course, was a futile effort. If somehow, an enemy aircraft were to sneak into visual ranges, the radar-coupled helmet-mounted sight would require the pilot to just look at the target and press the missile launch button. Instead of having to manoeuvre the aircraft like old times, one ‘dirty look’ by the pilot can do the needful. The 20 mm Vulcan cannon remains a backup weapon and can discharge a fusillade at a ripping rate of 100 rounds per second. I was doubly convinced that coming out alive after a hostile encounter with the MLU F-16 would be a miracle, so this is a beast best avoided by any adversary.

Demonstration of a dummy attack against a ground target with the Sniper electro-optical pod was the next item on the agenda. The Sniper pod allows aircrews to detect, identify and engage targets outside the range of most enemy air defences. It also allows engagements beyond jet noise range for counter-insurgency operations.
The pod incorporates a high definition Forward Looking Infra-Red (FLIR) seeker, as well as visible-light HDTV, laser spot tracker, laser marker, video data link, and a digital data recorder. The pod’s FLIR allows observation and tracking through smoke and haze, and in low light or no light conditions. The CCD camera supports the same operations in visible light for most daylight conditions.
It being a hazy day, FLIR mode was selected, and a target was identified and immediately tracked. Zooming in from far-off ranges helped resolve the target down to fine details that were unimaginable with the older ATLIS pod, that we had flown in the eighties. More importantly, the standoff range from the target has improved considerably, and targeting can be done safely from further off. The video of the target can be shared by formation members or army ground liaison staff in real time through data link. Sensor fusion is the key to this lethal game, and this could not have been more evident during the slick attack sequence we went through.
Time came for throwing the aircraft around, so the leader of the formation announced some mild tail chase. Not ready for the sudden onset of Gs, I strained my neck, which is a not an uncommon problem afflicting those who have stayed away from the F-16 for a while. The flight controls are driven by the same old right hand electric joystick, but the functions of the buttons on the stick (and throttle) have increased manifold. The facility and confidence with which Sami was handling the aircraft and its sensors was a marvel, and bespoke of his experience on the type that was past the 1,500 hours mark.
Landings were uneventful, and we taxied back to the aircraft shelters with ground crew eager to welcome us back after a unique experience. Soon afterwards, media teams emerged with their video cameras and mikes for short interviews regarding our experience. Here is what the veterans had to say:
Air Marshal Qazi Javed: “Fantastic! After 25 years, when you sit in an F-16, it is absolutely fantastic. The number of sensors these aircraft have is unbelievable; the situation awareness they provide is out of this world. I wish in our times, we had one-tenth of what we saw today. I wish the PAF good luck. Everyone is doing a fantastic job.”
Air Vice Marshal Hamid Khawaja: “It was a great experience. I returned after 20 years, which is a long time. The things I have seen today are very encouraging. The aircraft that I flew today has been modified so much – so much gadgetry – it makes you very happy to see that. I was very glad to see the pilots who are very comfortable with the aircraft. The level of experience of the younger pilots is very good too.”
Air Vice Marshal Faaiz Amir: “It reinforces my belief in the quality of today’s air force … more so the quality of pilots, although there is great improvement in the equipment as well. I was very pleased to see the competency of the pilots during the air-to-air exercise that we flew today. The technicians too are maintaining a very high standard of maintenance, and the aircraft are in very good shape. Godspeed to the Pakistan Air Force.”

Air Commodore Kaiser Tufail: “I was flying the F-16 after 30 years, and the last I flew any fighter was in 2004. It was a wonderful experience and I really enjoyed it. This aircraft is absolutely different from what we flew three decades ago. It is a completely changed aircraft, full of avionics, full of gadgetry. However, the best part I liked was the professionalism of the pilots. Everyone is very dedicated. I think everything has transformed. It is a very powerful punch-packed air force. I am very impressed.”

 

[Safriz]

Why were we training Iraqis back then? Saddam was no friend to us

Iranian much?

 

[Windjammer]

I happened to talk to one of the USAF IP's from the initial batches. He was all praise and put the Pakistani bunch at the top of his list of all the nationalities they had trained. This gentlemen used to frequent F-16.net at later stages as well.

However what is in the past is in the past, the hope is with the young generation. They are flying much more capable platforms with a ton more workload. The hope is for this generation to blaze the trail for the PAF.

As for present, please refer to the events of Feb-27TH.

 

[mingle]

The Israelis had it short too. Definitely less than 3 years as they took the Viper to combat before anyone else did. Nonetheless PAF sent their very best to convert onto the Viper, and that record time stands by it.

Also the Israelis that were on the course with the PAF guys were from a younger batch, the first set of Israeli pilots had graduated before PAF IPs had even landed in the US to start their training.

Iranian F16s were sold to isreal due to shah coup.

 

[gangsta_rap]

Iranian much?

Zia gave Iran stingers. On top of that Saddam was busted for supporting Baloch separatists in an attempt to open a front against Iran.

Not to mention how Saddam backed India completely when it came to Kashmir.

Learn up on a thing called history kiddo. It's good for you.

 

[Defense Reader]

Don't forget to add Afghans and Soviets in the table.

Sir 2019 where is
mig 21 and SU 30mki in this table?

 

[Yaseen1]

i think eurofighter is much better than f16 and in excercise it has beaten f35 jet

 

[Windjammer]

Incredible discussions of the then ACM Anwar Shamim and the US team leading to the F-16s talks. Reading this snippet from his autobiography its apparent how determined and confident was PAF to induct the F-16 in record time.
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[WarKa DaNG]

Surely they are the workhorse of the airforce

 

[war&peace]

The sheer unmatched beauty of the F-16 makes hairs stand up in places I didn't know I had hairs.

 

[LeGenD]

i think eurofighter is much better than f16 and in excercise it has beaten f35 jet

Results of F-16 versus Eurofighter Typhoon simulations are mixed but F-35 represent a generational leap from both and have absurd kill ratios in RED FLAG simulations. Of-course, at the end of the day, it comes down to how well the pilots understand these aircraft and what they can do in demanding situations.

The latest F-16 Block 70/72 is better than any variant of Eurofighter Typhoon at present.

Even F-16 MLU configuration which is on the level of Block 50 proved to more than a match for Russian Su-30 MKI in recent clashes.