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PAF Officer had committed suicide, PAF tells Islamabad High Court

Look man , there are two systems

1- Civilian -> Regular courts / Supreme court (Kiyon Nikala like Judgements)
2- Military -> Military police / Court Marshal (Super Strict and Brutal)

When you Join Military you officially come under the Juresdiction of Military Tribuneral in case of any wrong doing, allegation. They have no bail out , they have no mercy , they have no excuses. You did something wrong you are offcially in Big Trouble

A military person seizes to be a civilian as soon as they are comissioned in Armed forces

But since he is deceased so and his Wife is a Civilian not an Armed Personnel. Therefore she will file a lawsuit in Civil Court. You cannot file a Case in Military Court.

There are many Officers in the Army and PAF who did massive corruption but are living a great life without any sort of punishment. So why this guy? I am totally against corruption but things aren't so simple as they're shown.

At least he had Shame.
Unlike the shameless civvies.. Nawaz Sharif and Zardari being the prime examples

Shameless civvies? Trying hard to act like an "ARmy brat"? Aren't you a bloody civvie? Nawaz and Zardari aren't civvies. They're the "bh**nc**ds of Pakistan.
 
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Regardless of what the Widow stated or not Court Marshal events are privately held by Military they are not public event where civilians are involed

Any findings are disclosed as facts end of proceedings or post investigation and are generally final

100% Satisfaction in what Military found by their private fact finding
 
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Regardless of what the Widow stated or not Court Marshal events are privately held by Military they are not public event where civilians are involed

He didn't receive a court martial. He was a serving officer during the time of death. You aren't getting my point brother. His widow doesn't believe that he committed suicide while PAF stresses that he hanged himself. Now that's where the conflict is. Military Court won't be interested to investigate since they believe it was a suicide.
 
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:pop: It is not a Hollywood movie

The widow can deny all she wants at end of day , who is to be trusted a full fledge institute or Lady who is certainly emotional.

If PAF found corruption charges against that fella , then they must have had good reason why would they otherwise waste the money spent to train a officer to bring bogus charges against anyone.

PAF or Military are within their rights to examine , investigate and Share their fact finding mission for their internal matters

If Military states it was suicide it was suicide
 
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But since he is deceased so and his Wife is a Civilian not an Armed Personnel. Therefore she will file a lawsuit in Civil Court. You cannot file a Case in Military Court.

There are many Officers in the Army and PAF who did massive corruption but are living a great life without any sort of punishment. So why this guy? I am totally against corruption but things aren't so simple as they're shown.



Shameless civvies? Trying hard to act like an "ARmy brat"? Aren't you a bloody civvie? Nawaz and Zardari aren't civvies. They're the "bh**nc**ds of Pakistan.
Nah...not "Trying hard" at anything... Just stating facts..
One creed has shame, other has none. Its a fact.
 
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:pop: It is not a Hollywood movie

The widow can deny all she wants at end of day , who is to be trusted a full fledge institute or Lady who is certainly emotional

If PAF found corruption charges against that fella , then they must have had good reason why would they otherwise waste the money spent to train a officer to bring bogus charges against anyone

PAF or Military are within their rights to examine , investigate and Share their fact finding mission for their internal matters

Heard about Gen Asif Nawaz? Everybody knows he was poisoned by the powerful Brigadier Imtiaz. His widow was crying to all the senior generals that please investigate but no one listened to her. As I said, things aren't simple :)
 
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But the officer's spouse claims that he was detained by an Intelligence Agency during the time of his death. She rejects the claim that he committed suicide. This is what needs to be discussed.
Azadpakistan had already explained but little knowledge I have serving officers technically are not detained by intelligence agencies rather a trial is run privately in military courts and it is very very transparent so any corrupt officer either have to agreed to go home quietly surrendering all his honour, perks and privileges and :) go empty handed to home or this first case of suicide.
 
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He was not found guilty by any tribunal prior to his death. There was an investigation and he was to face a board of inquiry, prior to which he was found dead. His widow's complaint is that he had injuries on his body inconsistent with suicide. PDF fundis found this officer guilty even though there was no formal inquiry concluded and despite the medical reports, they proclaimed a verdict of suicide against him despite his widow's claims. :coffee:
 
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Military investigation are their own private matter :big_boss:

They're obliged to submit the report Sir. Nothing is private :)

Azadpakistan had already explained but little knowledge I have serving officers technically are not detained by intelligence agencies rather a trial is run privately in military courts and it is very very transparent so any corrupt officer either have to agreed to go home quietly surrendering all his honour, perks and privileges and :) go empty handed to home or this first case of suicide.

Technically they are not detained neither the SOP allows to detain them, but that's what the widow is crying about. He wasn't only detained but died during the interrogation by some Intelligence Agency.
 
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Corruption should be a capital offense
hikmaat say kaam lain sir! ajj tak sab corrupt logon ko hikmaat keh tehat aur aur corruption ki daynay jaa rahi hai takkay jamhor ko khatra na ho!
 
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hikmaat say kaam lain sir! ajj tak sab corrupt logon ko hikmaat keh tehat aur aur corruption ki daynay jaa rahi hai takkay jamhor ko khatra na ho!

Meri Maserati ka kia hoga
 
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Technically they are not detained neither the SOP allows to detain them, but that's what the widow is crying about. He wasn't only detained but died during the interrogation by some Intelligence Agency.
As I said there are no perks and privileges in such cases even if you are a decorated general so probably the wife surely is struggling with difficulties. This is what the widow is accusing . The military inquiries are speedy and transparent even a general cannot get away.
 
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