PAF locked on 9 shoot only two...PAF official....0n 27 Feb....

[Amaa'n]

Yes

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beta, an updated document from 2009 in dod files showed that this contract no. was delivered to Taiwan....you are quoting a document from 2006 archives، it was of a time when contract was awarded۔ Am talking about a time in 2009 when it ready for delivery۔۔۔۔۔get the document from did site too share here

 

[abdulbarijan]

Kitni galtiaan maaf karein ?

Asif Ghafoor's list lies which were exposed - just in a span of 7 days.

1. No F-16 were used.
2. Three pilots had ejected out of which one pilot was admitted to CMH due to injuries and another was in their custody and search is on for the third pilot.
3. Later that day - one pilot is custody - one on the run.
4. Even later that day - only one pilot is custody.
5. A week later - one India pilot was captured, one died.

1. If your basis of argumentation is the presence of contradictory statements ... then by all means apply the same standard to the previous so called 'surgical strikes'.

2. What are the facts? The de-escalation happened from a point where:

(a)PAF conducts attacks Indian military targets in broad day light and IAF doesn't do JACK about it.
(b) IAF sufferes a loss in terms of a mig-21 and mi-17.
(c) An IAF pilot was paraded in front of the entire world as a POW having his rear end whooped by common folk.
(d) IAF suffers 6 casualties in the mi-17 incident.

Basically by the end of it ...

PAF was the one that conducted ground attacks on the IAF military installations, got in IAF's grill, ended up making a total fool out of IAF on the world stage causing a fratricide and downing a fighter jet while parading the pilot .... and the IAF's response ... media stories, conspiracy theories, awards to incompetent personnel and "Agar Raphaaal hota tou majaa aa jata"

and the real tragedy of the situation is that ... somewhere down the line ... 50 years or so ... some Indian kid playing military expert will be talking about how Pakistanis are taught fake history and how on 27th of Feb 2019 IAF had total air supremacy.

 

[Ultima Thule]

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i think followed by 4 MiG 29s detected very close to LoC.

as far as i can remember 1 MKI intrude in Lahore sector (in 2008 ZARDARI TERM) which were intercept by our F-16 and very next day Kiyani went to US aircraft carrier to Gulf to show the evidence of incursion

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

most recent incursion of MIG-25 in Pakistani airspace were 2008-9

After Mumbai Attack?

 

[Amaa'n]

Did you ever bother to question your authorities that how come it took them over a week to locate the AN-32 which went missing inside India and took them 8 months to conclude that the Mi-17 was a fratricide yet how were they able to recover a piece of an AMRAAM ....which flew at Mach-4.....within 24 hours.

it was easy، they had to pull it out from after burners of SU30 that went down۔۔ ۔۔۔۔

 

[Ultima Thule]

The MiG-25 serving in the IAF retired from active service in 2006

sorry, and thanks for correcting me

 

[Myth_buster_1]

They are not in service...
I was asking with respect to MKIs, M2Ks and Jaguars, and upcoming Rafales

I think all mig-29 can do that

 

[Ultima Thule]

What fighters does enemy have for that altitude category ? Apologies as i have a hard time remembering numbers

MKI have service ceiling of 60000+ feet, where our F-16+JF-17 have service ceiling of 55000 feet

After Mumbai Attack?

No i was wrong MIG-25 was retired in 2005, it was 1997

 

[Windjammer]

it was easy، they had to pull it out from after burners of SU30 that went down۔۔ ۔۔۔۔

Yes, it also left a big hole in Indian brains....

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

MKI have service ceiling of 60000+ feet, where our F-16+JF-17 have service ceiling of 55000 feet


No i was wrong MIG-25 was retired in 2005, it was 1997

If AMRAAM or SD 10 is fired at SU 30 flying above 6000+ft, would AMRAAM travel upwards from its launch height to hit SU 30?

 

[StormBreaker]

I think all mig-29 can do that

Oh, how can i forget that !!! Poor MIGs, too less of a threat to even come to mind..

MKI have service ceiling of 60000+ feet, where our F-16+JF-17 have service ceiling of 55000 feet


No i was wrong MIG-25 was retired in 2005, it was 1997

Do you know that aerial combat at 60000+ is not possible ?

F-16s at 50k can fire AMRAAMs with an angle to point the AMRAAMS up, the high altitude will further aid in increased range and precise journey...

it was easy، they had to pull it out from after burners of SU30 that went down۔۔ ۔۔۔۔

One way PAF could have handled the media confusion over SU-30 kill was, let’s say the AMRAAM displayed by India to world was the one that hit MKI, PAF could have declared the serial numbers of 2 fired AMRAAMs, the other being the one that brought abhinandan for chai.

But for that to happen, India should have displayed two destroyed AMRAAMS,
Well...

 

[Ultima Thule]

Do you know that aerial combat at 60000+ is not possible ?

F-16s at 50k can fire AMRAAMs with an angle to point the AMRAAMS up, the high altitude will further aid in increased range and precise journey...

Their was not AMRAAM in 97 and if you talking about 2008 MKI interception AMRAAM was on order and not yet delivered

 

[StormBreaker]

Their was not AMRAAM in 97 and if you talking about 2008 MKI interception AMRAAM was on order and not yet delivered

I am responding to your concern of lack of high altitude aircrafts with PAF...

 

[Osiris]

beta, an updated document from 2009 in dod files showed that this contract no. was delivered to Taiwan....you are quoting a document from 2006 archives، it was of a time when contract was awarded۔ Am talking about a time in 2009 when it ready for delivery۔۔۔۔۔get the document from did site too share here

First of all, what are you trying to prove here ? That AMRAAM missile found in India, was sold to Taiwan?

If not that, then, what?

 

[Ultima Thule]

If AMRAAM or SD 10 is fired at SU 30 flying above 6000+ft, would AMRAAM travel upwards from its launch height to hit SU 30?

AMRAAM was on order by Pakistan but not yet delivered at the time of incident