Original words of Donald Lu in Cipher

[HAIDER]

Original words of Donald Lu as per shireen mazari:

"If the vote of no confidence does not succeeded and Prime minister Imran Khan remains in office, He will be isolated from US and we will take the issue head on.

If the vote of no confidence succeeds, all will be forgiven."

How come Pakistan army let this happen after reading this

Literally heart breaking for me

https://twitter.com/x/status/1514671611118600197

The army seems on the back foot, press briefing from ISPR is not making any sense. I am surprised to see that even Arab media is giving too much coverage and Arabs in the west asking Pakistani why Imran khan govt toppled. He was an excellent person .... an Arab perception ..
Everyone should notice ..all types of protests are banned in KSA and UAE ... But massive protests were allowed in these countries in favor of Imran Khan ...

 

[PradoTLC]

So where is the threat or conspiracy in these words, if indeed true?

This sounds more like a policy statement from a country that is expressing its response as a sovereign nation to a constitutional procedure in a democratic country. If the vote failed, exPMIK would have been isolated from USA, and correctly so, given his well known utterances. If he were voted out, USA would be willing to make a new start with whoever replaced him. Perfectly logical.

Surely, no one is naïve enough to think that exPMIK should have been free to do whatever he pleased without international repercussions. In other words, do the deeds as you wish, but then be prepared for the fallout too. ExPMIK never received a call from the White House even before all this, so it was not like he was in good graces to begin with, and then he chose to forge his own way forward as the headstrong man that he was, and is.

Simple enough. No conspiracy or complaints needed.

yes and US doesnt have a history of regime change through out history..

hold my keema naan.......

 

[muhammadhafeezmalik]

If anything, army has put a seal and confirmed their involvement in this US regime change operation.

How can the DGISPR be so dumb that he doesn't realize that by confirming that US interfered in Pak's internal matters and army did nothing to stop it, he is directly implicating the institution.

Afterwards saying that so-called economic stability was witnessed the day new govt took oath, he has completely politicized the institution by publicly siding with the opposition. Never seen a bigger moron.

The whole nation knows that army elite was part of this operation but you don't need to spell it out. At least maintain some cover and leave room for plausible deniability. After all you are the number 1 spy agency in the whole damn world.

How can you complain Army for supporting NOC, when formation of your government was solely with the support of Army??
Army did not need to support NOC to remove government all it has to do was to become neutral by withdrawing the support.
Did BAP, MQMP, PMLQ and all others were with PTI for the love of handsome?? No, they were supporting PTI on instructions.
If someone refused to issue instructions you can't complaint.

 

[muhammadhafeezmalik]

آپ اور بیگم لڑ رہے ہوں اور بیچ میں پڑوسی آجائے اور آپ کی طرفداری کرنے لگے تو اسے مداخلت کہیں گے
جبکہ اگر پڑوسی آپ کی بیگم کو ورغلا کر اپنے جال میں پھنسائے اور پھر شوربے والے آلو مٹر میں زہر ملاکر آپ کو مارنے کا منصوبہ بنائے تو اسے سازش کہیں گے۔
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[PradoTLC]

ISI troll / Patwari spotted
An elected PM of Pakistan was threatened with no confidence motion by a superpower, and warned of severe consequences if it failed. And yet you see no conspiracy nor attempt of foreign intervention

he just ate his keema naan

Khota biryani has that side effect on terminating ones ability to comprehend a basic fact.

disagree.. i think it was Keema naan...

 

[BillyRayValentine]

WHO THE HELL IS USA TO “FORGIVE” US OR PUNISH US ?!
This is what happens when we go far away from Islam. We only fear Allah and only Allah can punish and forgive us. Usa is not our god that we go around worshipping them but sadly many in Pakistani elite and establishment made usa their god.
Usa gives us one threat and our establishment and elite bend over for them. Do these guys not fear Allah?!

It’s also Pakistan’s fault for being bullied about “sanctions”. Pakistan failed to capture markets in GCC, Central Asia and China.
Pakistan needs to put focus and exporting more to China, GCC, Central Asia, Africa, South America and South East Asia. We shouldn’t rely too heavily on American markets that they blackmail us. We are located in such a place geographically that we can easily dominate GCC, Chinese, Central Asian and East African markets. We should head towards self reliance.

Allah is our god. We only worship Allah, we only fear Allah, we only ask for forgiveness from Allah and we’re only slaves of Allah.

“So, surely with hardship comes ease.”
- Quran 94:5

As a religious man, I feel that all of this happening during Ramadan is a sign for us, in that Pakistan was created during Ramadan. The fact that all this treachery and deceit took place during Ramadan clearly exposes the hypocrites and liars and the punishment is more harsh and severe to sins committed in this month. We will see the outcomes very soon. You can’t conspire with internal and external forces to remove a good Muslim ruler of anMuslim country in this month and not face significant divine retribution. Grab your popcorn! This is going to get even more real!

 

[HRK]

The issue is not simple as that..
IK has never been hostile with US, he defended Pakistan interest.
The same IK had excellent working relation with Donald Trump.
( The problem here is senile Joe).

Afghanistan..
It all started after US making Pakistan the scapegoat or punching bag to vent its anger. They vilified Pakistan. Pakistan simply responded to the accusations in straight forward tone directly.

The reason was US was not able to exert influence on Pakistan as it used to.

The US bases story is correct ( Don't know why ISPR denied it)

On 6th of June CIA chief Burns travelled to Pakistan and asked for drone bases and anti terrorism cooperation. ( I still remember he wanted to meet PM but IK declined to meet). They returned empty handed. Reported in Dawn as well and was discussed on social media as well.

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On 19th June PM said ' Absolutely not' when asked the question.

This deteriorated the situation further. From Oct/Nov there were rumors of conspiracy and people/anchors including establishment tout Kamran Khan, Haroon Rasheed, Sethi and few others explicitly saying ' IK has been given time uptil March'. Government will be removed in March.

The famous back to back meeting of US chancellor ( I think the lady) and much advertised meetings with Maryam Nawaz and Shehbaz Sharif. Their pet journalists started saying America is now on plmn side. ( Remember the same day China foreign minister tweeted in favour of IK).

The Russia visit.

Later on countless reports of US ambassy staff mettings with many parliamentarians including with low key ones with no relevance like 'Riaz' or 'Noor alam khan'. Aleem Khan after meeting which he posted on his Facebook page ( post removed afterwards) gave resignation to IK a week afterwards.

Than the letter ' meeting minutes' was received before the NCV announcement and the very next day opposition announced NCV.
Shahbaz Sharif famously said when NCV was announced ' WHY DID YOU SAY ABSOLUTELY NOT'.
Maryam Nawaz and Ranasanaullah explicitly admitted Nawaz Sharif meeting with foreign agency people in London.

The post can go on for many more paragraphs if each minor thing in the chain of events is listed.

It's just a short summary, to help get the point across.

@HRK @Foxtrot Alpha @PanzerKiel

Please do the minor corrections if there are any.

IMO the letter/message was not addressed to IK, but the establishment.

It was a go ahead to put the plan in motion.
The establishment was on board.
Remember how due to OIC conference plan was put on hold, how establishment gave message to its puppies to not disrupt the conference and let it conclude in peace.

It was a collaborated coup with multiple actors.

The courts are just arm twisted whenever they are needed.

You are engage in debate with a wrong guy he will do whatever it take to defend America a typical desi slave mentality

 

[insight-out]

So where is the threat or conspiracy in these words, if indeed true?

This sounds more like a policy statement from a country that is expressing its response as a sovereign nation to a procedure in a democratic country. If the vote failed, exPMIK would have been isolated from USA, and correctly so, given his well known utterances. If he were voted out, USA would be willing to make a new start with whoever replaced him. Perfectly logical.

Surely, no one is naïve enough to think that exPMIK should have been free to do whatever he pleased without international repercussions. In other words, do the deeds as you wish, but then be prepared for the fallout too. ExPMIK never received a call from the White House even before all this, so it was not like he was in good graces to begin with, and then he chose to forge his own way forward as the headstrong man that he was, and is.

Simple enough. No conspiracy or complaints needed.

You really are struggling to make this not sound like a threat.

Reminds me of the movie trope, where one guy threatens another. The other guy asks, "Is that a threat?". The first guy replies menacingly, "I'm just stating a fact".

You need to get out of Hollywood la la land.