One in four Americans 'doesn't know the Earth orbits the Sun' and only half believe in evolution

[Chronos]

Congrats, you've got the logic of a door handle.

"Not believing in deities or super natural beings and organized religion is a religion."

- JEskandari

lol

I get the logic of their argument. Which is more like an own goal.

Which is like this: Atheists believe that there is no god purely based on faith and no evidence. So if it was a religion, then it is an admission by him that the religious believe in gods based on faith, and not on evidence.

 

[priti]

We must liberate JEW USA who don't have enough democracy and knowledge

please go drink some juice to cool, b4 talking of jews

 

[Infoman]

Americans also don't believe they are reincarnated from rats.

 

[gambit]

Let me get this straight...

Some Americans believes in geocentrism and the literal Biblical origin of mankind and for that America deserves to be ridiculed...

...By a country where people worships animal gods and holy men eats rotten human flesh...???

 

[scorpionx]

Americans also don't believe they are reincarnated from rats.

Defending stupidity with another form of stupidity is a childish way of debating, isn't?

 

[Star Wars]

Let me get this straight...

Some Americans believes in geocentrism and the literal Biblical origin of mankind and for that America deserves to be ridiculed...

...By a country where people worships animal gods and holy men eats rotten human flesh...???

Its better than saying the world is 5000 years old and humans and Dinosaurs lived together ... You won't find any Asian Religion Buddhism,Hinduism etc... who has a problem with Evolution or any other Scientific theories its only the other certain rigid religious group who has an issue with that..

 

[Infoman]

Let me get this straight...

Some Americans believes in geocentrism and the literal Biblical origin of mankind and for that America deserves to be ridiculed...

...By a country where people worships animal gods and holy men eats rotten human flesh...???

Exactly, they have no room to talk.

 

[Star Wars]

Exactly, they have no room to talk.

The topic is about Americans and their stupidity, not India ..besides these practices are done only by 1 in a million as compared to 1 in 4

I read that almost 75% of them believe in supernatural beings.

Please do not show militant Atheism ...respect another persons belief , the problem with atheists is that they claim high moral standards and yet are completely unsympathetic when it comes to respecting other religions . you have to be very very careful when dealing with these things because you really have no clue what it means to them...

 

[scorpionx]

Please do not show militant Atheism ...respect another persons belief , the problem with atheists is that they claim high moral standards and yet are completely unsympathetic when it comes to respecting other religions . you have to be very very careful when dealing with these things because you really have no clue what it means to them...

Are Yaar, I was talking of ghosts there. No need to jump your gun on me every time without understanding properly what I meant.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

What would be the reason for this gap? They have world's best universities, their country have been pioneer in engineering and technology.But why is this ignorance,still? I am not sure but once I read that almost 75% of them believe in supernatural beings.

Because they are asking backwoods religious people loaded questions that go against some of their core beliefs.

1) God created the Universe
2) God created Man.

 

[gambit]

Its better than saying the world is 5000 years old and humans and Dinosaurs lived together ... You won't find any Asian Religion Buddhism,Hinduism etc... who has a problem with Evolution or any other Scientific theories its only the other certain rigid religious group who has an issue with that..

Suuuuuuure it is...

The Japanese believes in spirits -- kami -- that lives in rocks, animals, water, etc.

The Muslims believes in 7 layers of heaven and never mind that I actually debated a few Muslims on their own playground who believes in geocentrism.

The Hindus believes in an elephant headed god and a monkey headed god, the Earth is held up by a snake, and karma.

But America deserves to be mocked because some Christians believes in the literal Bible.

 

[SHAMK9]

Americans also don't believe they are reincarnated from rats.

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[Skull and Bones]

This is what happens when you're trained and brainwashed from your childhood to not to question religious books.

 

[gambit]

Exactly, they have no room to talk.

The holy menstrual flow...Kinky...

 

[scorpionx]

Because they are asking backwoods religious people loaded questions that go against some of their core beliefs.

1) God created the Universe
2) God created Man.

Not going much into the theological discussions, we have a hell and heaven difference between our education systems. So, the data shown makes me feel a little bit shocked.