'Oil mafia doesn’t want electricity from coal'

[The Sandman]

October 12, 2015,
ISLAMABAD – Federal Minister for Water and Power Khawaja Asif on Monday told the Senate that 'oil mafia' in the country did not wanted to replace oil fuel with cheaper sources of electricity like coal, gas and wind.


"The country imports $16 billion oil and the people - who have great interest in it - do not want the generation shifted from oil fuel to other resources," he said in response to an adjournment motion moved by Senator Shahi Syed. The motion pertained to a report of the National Electric Power Regulatory Authority, which revealed that the efficiency of the Ministry of Water and Power was very poor and 70 per cent of the consumers were receiving over-charged bills.


"Not a single megawatt of electricity is being produced from coal as we are facing resistance in coal and LNG production, while in India 78 per cent of electricity is being produced from coal and in USA 40 per cent," he said. "Unfortunately, the generation plants in public sector are very costly and the government runs them in case of emergency in order to meet demand during peak hours," he added.


Commenting on the power outages and inflated bills received by consumers in Balochistan, Asif said the Quetta Electric Supply Company (QESCO) had less than 20 per cent of recovery due to law and order situation. He said that after laying of two transmission lines in Balochistan the electricity system has improved while after easing of international sanctions on Iran, electricity for there would also be imported.


He said payments to the independent power producers and other organisations supplying oil to the Water and Power Development Authority (WAPDA) had been improved, adding that just the Pakistan State Oil has some backlog. He said that there was no increase in circular debt since October 2014 and it has been caped.
'Oil mafia doesn’t want electricity from coal'

 

[TechnoFox]

Screw them both and invest in Solar & Wind:

In the US:

Consider a solar project. The sun doesn't shine at night and, even during the day, varies in brightness with the weather and the seasons. So a project that can crank out 100 megawatt hours of electricity during the sunniest part of the day might produce just 20 percent of that when averaged out over a year. That gives it a 20 percent capacity factor.

One of the major strengths of fossil fuel power plants is that they can command very high and predictable capacity factors. The average U.S. natural gas plant, for example, might produce about 70 percent of its potential (falling short of 100 percent because of seasonal demand and maintenance). But that's what's changing, and it's a big deal.

For the first time, widespread adoption of renewables is effectively lowering the capacity factor for fossil fuels. That's because once a solar or wind project is built, the marginal cost of the electricity it produces is pretty much zero—free electricity—while coal and gas plants require more fuel for every new watt produced. If you're a power company with a choice, you choose the free stuff every time.

It’s a self-reinforcing cycle. As more renewables are installed, coal and natural gas plants are used less. As coal and gas are used less, the cost of using them to generate electricity goes up. As the cost of coal and gas power rises, more renewables will be installed.

...

Screw oil and coal, invest in Solar and Wind!

Solar & Wind Reach a Big Renewables Turning Point : BNEF - Bloomberg Business

 

[Dubious]

Screw them both and invest in Solar & Wind:

In the US:

Consider a solar project. The sun doesn't shine at night and, even during the day, varies in brightness with the weather and the seasons. So a project that can crank out 100 megawatt hours of electricity during the sunniest part of the day might produce just 20 percent of that when averaged out over a year. That gives it a 20 percent capacity factor.

One of the major strengths of fossil fuel power plants is that they can command very high and predictable capacity factors. The average U.S. natural gas plant, for example, might produce about 70 percent of its potential (falling short of 100 percent because of seasonal demand and maintenance). But that's what's changing, and it's a big deal.

For the first time, widespread adoption of renewables is effectively lowering the capacity factor for fossil fuels. That's because once a solar or wind project is built, the marginal cost of the electricity it produces is pretty much zero—free electricity—while coal and gas plants require more fuel for every new watt produced. If you're a power company with a choice, you choose the free stuff every time.

It’s a self-reinforcing cycle. As more renewables are installed, coal and natural gas plants are used less. As coal and gas are used less, the cost of using them to generate electricity goes up. As the cost of coal and gas power rises, more renewables will be installed.

...

Screw oil and coal, invest in Solar and Wind!

Solar & Wind Reach a Big Renewables Turning Point : BNEF - Bloomberg Business

We dont really have people with high intellect....they mimic what their political parties say...Mind you some will even convince you and SHOW you that solar power is more expensive...Hack our solar power stations generate electricity at a higher rate than anyone on the planet! Hence why the votes go to oil mafia

 

[Sulman Badshah]

Screw them both and invest in Solar & Wind:

we are investing in both .. Solar in few years will touch 1000 MW and wind 250 MW ..

but for the full needs Coal is best solution since we have a huge deposits of coal ... Coal plants are cheap ..

 

[C130]

Pakistan should look into CSP with molten salt heat storage system

 

[Dubious]

Pakistan should look into CSP with molten salt heat storage system

Looks interesting can you please elaborate...or for now summarize what this is ...

 

[C130]

Looks interesting can you please elaborate...or for now summarize what this is ...

Concentrated solar power - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Dubious]

Concentrated solar power - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sounds interesting dont think we have intellect in our power ministry to think this far

 

[Dil Pakistan]

October 12, 2015,
ISLAMABAD – Federal Minister for Water and Power Khawaja Asif on Monday told the Senate that 'oil mafia' in the country did not wanted to replace oil fuel with cheaper sources of electricity like coal, gas and wind.


"The country imports $16 billion oil and the people - who have great interest in it - do not want the generation shifted from oil fuel to other resources," he said in response to an adjournment motion moved by Senator Shahi Syed. The motion pertained to a report of the National Electric Power Regulatory Authority, which revealed that the efficiency of the Ministry of Water and Power was very poor and 70 per cent of the consumers were receiving over-charged bills.


"Not a single megawatt of electricity is being produced from coal as we are facing resistance in coal and LNG production, while in India 78 per cent of electricity is being produced from coal and in USA 40 per cent," he said. "Unfortunately, the generation plants in public sector are very costly and the government runs them in case of emergency in order to meet demand during peak hours," he added.


Commenting on the power outages and inflated bills received by consumers in Balochistan, Asif said the Quetta Electric Supply Company (QESCO) had less than 20 per cent of recovery due to law and order situation. He said that after laying of two transmission lines in Balochistan the electricity system has improved while after easing of international sanctions on Iran, electricity for there would also be imported.


He said payments to the independent power producers and other organisations supplying oil to the Water and Power Development Authority (WAPDA) had been improved, adding that just the Pakistan State Oil has some backlog. He said that there was no increase in circular debt since October 2014 and it has been caped.
'Oil mafia doesn’t want electricity from coal'

Then why the bloody hell this Govt. is in power ?

It is their job to overcome these hurdles and issues for the sake of people and country. Instead of doing their job, they come to assembly for a crying session

 

[Dubious]

Then why the bloody hell this Govt. is in power ?

It is their job to overcome these hurdles and issues for the sake of people and country. Instead of doing their job, they come to assembly for a crying session

money in the pocket....country jai bhar mein!

 

[Dil Pakistan]

money in the pocket....country jai bhar mein!

Most likely YES.....and this is the evil.

 

[Khalidr]

Minister is by itself crying on its own performance, this stupid person should know that they are in Federal government and why not taking action, no one is above the law or may be the same government people are involved in the scandal.

The simple question is what the hell you guys are doing in government if you cannot take actions.

 

[Shah01]

Pakistan should look into CSP with molten salt heat storage system

I will second this.

 

[ice_man]

@Jazzbot this is the main problem BLOODY NEPRA has taken stay orders!!!

October 12, 2015,
ISLAMABAD – Federal Minister for Water and Power Khawaja Asif on Monday told the Senate that 'oil mafia' in the country did not wanted to replace oil fuel with cheaper sources of electricity like coal, gas and wind.


"The country imports $16 billion oil and the people - who have great interest in it - do not want the generation shifted from oil fuel to other resources," he said in response to an adjournment motion moved by Senator Shahi Syed. The motion pertained to a report of the National Electric Power Regulatory Authority, which revealed that the efficiency of the Ministry of Water and Power was very poor and 70 per cent of the consumers were receiving over-charged bills.


"Not a single megawatt of electricity is being produced from coal as we are facing resistance in coal and LNG production, while in India 78 per cent of electricity is being produced from coal and in USA 40 per cent," he said. "Unfortunately, the generation plants in public sector are very costly and the government runs them in case of emergency in order to meet demand during peak hours," he added.


Commenting on the power outages and inflated bills received by consumers in Balochistan, Asif said the Quetta Electric Supply Company (QESCO) had less than 20 per cent of recovery due to law and order situation. He said that after laying of two transmission lines in Balochistan the electricity system has improved while after easing of international sanctions on Iran, electricity for there would also be imported.


He said payments to the independent power producers and other organisations supplying oil to the Water and Power Development Authority (WAPDA) had been improved, adding that just the Pakistan State Oil has some backlog. He said that there was no increase in circular debt since October 2014 and it has been caped.
'Oil mafia doesn’t want electricity from coal'

the problem is every bloody ministry is corrupt!!! not a single department is non corrupt!

NEPRA the regulatory authority itself is doing massive corruption and resists changes that government plans!

what can be done whereare SUO MOTTOs now

 

[Echo_419]

Screw them both and invest in Solar & Wind:

In the US:

Consider a solar project. The sun doesn't shine at night and, even during the day, varies in brightness with the weather and the seasons. So a project that can crank out 100 megawatt hours of electricity during the sunniest part of the day might produce just 20 percent of that when averaged out over a year. That gives it a 20 percent capacity factor.

One of the major strengths of fossil fuel power plants is that they can command very high and predictable capacity factors. The average U.S. natural gas plant, for example, might produce about 70 percent of its potential (falling short of 100 percent because of seasonal demand and maintenance). But that's what's changing, and it's a big deal.

For the first time, widespread adoption of renewables is effectively lowering the capacity factor for fossil fuels. That's because once a solar or wind project is built, the marginal cost of the electricity it produces is pretty much zero—free electricity—while coal and gas plants require more fuel for every new watt produced. If you're a power company with a choice, you choose the free stuff every time.

It’s a self-reinforcing cycle. As more renewables are installed, coal and natural gas plants are used less. As coal and gas are used less, the cost of using them to generate electricity goes up. As the cost of coal and gas power rises, more renewables will be installed.

...

Screw oil and coal, invest in Solar and Wind!

Solar & Wind Reach a Big Renewables Turning Point : BNEF - Bloomberg Business

Not feasible for developing countries like us