NSA Ajit DovaL on How INDIA Should TackLe the ThreaT of CHiNA !!

[Joseph Goebbels]

Indians are poor people,i don't know what will they get from countering china.

What has being poor got to do with being sovereign and free ?


as some great Pakistani Patriot once said "gareeb to tujhe khuda ne banaya tha per beghairath tujhe kisne banya" hope you got the point .

 

[tested]

Indians are poor people,i don't know what will they get from countering china.

Simple
Unlike India-Pakistan, India and China have no ideological or civilizational conflict. Ours is a game of state interests.

They converge and diverge at multiple points and everything is leverage. Which is why despite the many moves against each other, we have not fired a single bullet at each other in many decades.

 

[PakSword]

You support Pakistan not because you love them but for your own geostrategic reasons - and that is deflect India's attention away from you and keep your Southern flank secure.

All this talk by our Pakistani friends about the 'deeper than the ocean friendship' is a lot of hot air. The fact is that you are using them for your own national interests. And they've fallen into your trap, hook line and sinker!

Whatever.... We love China. We hear this Pak-China friendship thing from our childhood. It is in our mind and will remain in our mind even if China doesn't support us. Even our religion refers to China as well when it comes to Education.

If China thinks that Pakistan could help them in achieving their strategic objectives, we will offer our help and we will support them with everything possible. Haters gonna hate this but this is reality and Indians will have to live with it.

 

[帅的一匹]

You support Pakistan not because you love them but for your own geostrategic reasons - and that is deflect India's attention away from you and keep your Southern flank secure.

All this talk by our Pakistani friends about the 'deeper than the ocean friendship' is a lot of hot air. The fact is that you are using them for your own national interests. And they've fallen into your trap, hook line and sinker!

We are not using Pakistan, we just need each other.

 

[PakSword]

Poor Indian media thinks that whatever China and Pakistan are doing is against Indian national interests.

First of all, Pakistan is coming out of the garbage that the s h i t t y wars created since 1980, and China is helping Pakistan in that. What could be more expected from a friend? If simultaneously, t

hey are achieving their geopolitical objectives, we are more than happy for them as much as we are happy for ourselves. We do not envy them, we have no differences on demarcation of boundaries.

China is thinking much more than India. They are challenging US, the country that pushed us in the wars against Russia and then left us alone. India is I think obsessed with China although there is no comparison whatsoever with them.

 

[帅的一匹]

Poor Indian media thinks that whatever China and Pakistan are doing is against Indian national interests.

First of all, Pakistan is coming out of the garbage that the s h i t t y wars created since 1980, and China is helping Pakistan in that. What could be more expected from a friend? If simultaneously, t

hey are achieving their geopolitical objectives, we are more than happy for them as much as we are happy for ourselves. We do not envy them, we have no differences on demarcation of boundaries.

China is thinking much more than India. They are challenging US, the country that pushed us in the wars against Russia and then left us alone. India is I think obsessed with China although there is no comparison whatsoever with them.

China just like Pakistani and don't hate India that much. We have no problem with Muslim and Hindu. We will always stand with Pakistan because we are brother given birth in blood shed. We don't wanna hamper or hinder India's development in the subcontinent, wish them all the best.

USA is a very selfish country. When need you, it will give you the best treatment. When they don't need you, just throw you in to garbage bin. It is a country only has several hundreds years history, it don't has enough culture accumulation. it's history is all about loot and killing in North America. Although they are strong, we never respect them in our heart.

 

[Pulsar]

We are not using Pakistan, we just need each other.

And why do you need them? (I've answered that in my previous post).

Whatever.... We love China. We hear this Pak-China friendship thing from our childhood. It is in our mind and will remain in our mind even if China doesn't support us. Even our religion refers to China as well when it comes to Education.

If China thinks that Pakistan could help them in achieving their strategic objectives, we will offer our help and we will support them with everything possible. Haters gonna hate this but this is reality and Indians will have to live with it.

Nuff said!

 

[帅的一匹]

And why do you need them? (I've answered that in my previous post).



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Nuff said!

at least they don't attack us when we suffered from Soviet bully and famine. A friend in need is a friend indeed.

The most remembered grudge is somebody stabbed you when you are weak.

 

[PakSword]

We enjoy when Modi immediately visits China and ask them to stop investing in strategic projects that will help both China and Pakistan and then Indians pretend that they don't care about Pakistan.

These Indians are hypocrites to the core.

 

[Indika]

The most import thing is both China and India people can stuff their belly instead of kicking each other's butt. War only brings sadness and poverty.

Agreed, thats the only thing that will let asians run their own affairs without interference. But chinese support to pakistans aggrandizement is only going to bring in US as counter force. If chinese( and indians) are smart they will know how to keep away the 3rd party.

There is nothing much to gain economically or militarily for china by supporting pakistan. If india & china stop supporting each others enemies then they stand to gain if not they will just waste time putting down each other. china at this the point of time might have the arrogance of having bigger economy & military but india will waste no time in playing spoil sport(with help of western countries) if it is being put down. if this happens asians will never see prosperity but will end up indirect slaves of others.

We are not using Pakistan, we just need each other.

oh yeah knowledge fountain of the universe. why not take their mullahs ?

at least they don't attack us when we suffered from Soviet bully and famine. A friend in need is a friend indeed.

The most remembered grudge is somebody stabbed you when you are weak.

do you when intelligent ppl become idiots? when they cant identify their frnds & enemies.
Not at the Cost of China: India and the United Nations Security Council, 1950 | Wilson Center

 

[H.B.]

We are not using Pakistan, we just need each other.

That is quite the textbook definition of 'using'.

Take it easy, we support Pakistan cause they are not that bad as you have in mind.

That, Sir is pure BS. Why don't you trust the goodness of people like Hafiz Saeed and invite him on a lecture tour of Urumqi, Kashgar & Hotan?

It is not wrong to have national geo-strategic policies. In China's case, a weak India serves them well and, for this purpose equipping Pakistan is perfectly legitimate. Just don't couch it in sweet nothings.

 

[Lonely Hermit]

the talk was pretty straightforward. In fact, it was plain speak in the most bare format. Does Indian govt listen to this guy?

Ajit Doval is India's National Security Advisor, being the top bureaucrat he is the govt.

 

[SrNair]

the talk was pretty straightforward. In fact, it was plain speak in the most bare format. Does Indian govt listen to this guy?

He is the National Security Adviser of Government of India .He can implement anything he want and he has full support from current PM of India.

 

[nang2]

Ajit Doval is India's National Security Advisor, being the top bureaucrat he is the govt.

I see. Maybe it is his job to be paranoid.

Speaking of threat from China, it is often pulling everyone back to 1962. This thread pointed me to some online resources and provided some good reading materials. One paragraph caught my attention and it appears to be a good summary on what leads to Forward Policy.

"While there were obvious breaks with the British Indian legacy at the
diplomatic and rhetorical level, the geopolitical dimension of early India–
China relations revealed significant continuity with the colonial past. There
was no geopolitical tabula rasa, despite the euphoria of independence.
The territorial parameters within which the new relationship was shaped
were inherited from the Raj. In practical terms, India came to defend
nineteenth century colonial frontiers in the Himalayas, while China re-
conquered its erstwhile imperial possession after a century of humiliation.
Independent India inherited the geopolitical legacy of the Great Game,
but refused to continue playing it by the rules of Curzonian realpolitik.
To Nehru, Sino-Indian friendship was still too important to be derailed
by ‘petty issues’ like the desolate Himalayan borders. It is within this
inherently unstable combination of pan-Asian optimism and post-Great
Game geopolitics that the contextual origins and the root causes of the
1961 Forward Policy decision can be found."

http://www.idsa.in/system/files/jds_6_4_JohanSkogJesen.pdf

 

[H.B.]

I see. Maybe it is his job to be paranoid.

"Only the paranoid survive"- said Mr. Finch of Person of Interest.