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North korea launches ICBM, test appears success. Second stage drops near Ph

The biggest losers of this launch is North Korean people and China.

North Korean people will have to starve more because of strengthening sanctions.
China too loses because not only it shares the sole burden of sustaining the NK regime, but it gives the US a perfect excuse to complete the Missile Defense around China.

In the meanwhile, rightwingers are boosted the year-end elections in Korea and Japan, who come with hardline policies against both NK and China.
 
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The biggest losers of this launch is North Korean people and China.

North Korean people will have to starve more because of strengthening sanctions.
China too loses because not only it shares the sole burden of sustaining the NK regime, but it gives the US a perfect excuse to complete the Missile Defense around China.

In the meanwhile, rightwingers are boosted the year-end elections in Korea and Japan, who come with hardline policies against both NK and China.

& biggest winner ???
 
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It was a comparison about famine and starvation. So I mention Indians.

Sorry, only communist leaders have track record of mass starvation of their own people be it Mao, Stalin, Kim jong family or Pol Pot, not in democratic countries.
 
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What Pakistan needs is a leader with a spine. NK may be a poor nation but North Korean leaders have courage and self-respect. Leaders like Hasina and Zardari are devoid of courage and self-respect.

As an Indian, I would be extremely happy if Pakistan do such thing. :laugh:
 
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Interesting that there are 3 objects in space now from that launch:

KWANGMYONGSONG 3 Satellite details 2012-072A NORAD 39026
OBJECT B Satellite details 2012-072B NORAD 39027
OBJECT C Satellite details 2012-072C NORAD 39028



Object #1 apogee: 595.1 km
Object #2 apogee: 588.6 km
Object #3 apogee: 577.5 km

Perigee is 505 km for all three, period - 95 min.

good find...............
There is no way such a small rocket can carry 3 satellites,must be an error in Tracking/reporting or debris...

KWANGMYONGSONG 3 is a North Korean Earth observation satellite, which according to the DPRK is designed for weather forecast purposes, and whose launch is widely portrayed in the West to be a veiled ballistic missile test.
 
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Even South Koreans are not like Chinese.

Why would Koreans be anything like Chinese?

Han Chinese are southeast Asians originating from Burma speaking Burmese type languages. Koreans are Siberians originating from Lake Baikal speaking the oldest branch of Altaic languages. Two completely different people from the opposite side of the world, and this is why they could tell each other apart just by looking.

Seriously, Jews and Palestinians are far more genetically related to each other than Koreans and Chinese are.

As an Indian, I would be extremely happy if Pakistan do such thing. :laugh:
Does India have a DMZ like border?

If not, tens of millions of Pakistani refugees would escape to India fleeing starvation. So you definitely don't want to see Pakistan trying something like this.
 
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The biggest losers of this launch is North Korean people and China.

North Korean people will have to starve more because of strengthening sanctions.
China too loses because not only it shares the sole burden of sustaining the NK regime, but it gives the US a perfect excuse to complete the Missile Defense around China.

In the meanwhile, rightwingers are boosted the year-end elections in Korea and Japan, who come with hardline policies against both NK and China.
north koreans are your brothers.there starvation is shame of your whole ethnic.
if some country want to start an arms race,excuses are everywhere.
if US or japanese fight north korea,it will be disaster for both north and south korea.
north korea will not start all-out war,unless they are desperate.so you'd better give them more space and let them calm down.a peaceful northeast asia is benifit for all.
i personally don't like north korea, either.Their totalitarian rule is ...........:hitwall:
 
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Why would Koreans be anything like Chinese?

Han Chinese are southeast Asians originating from Burma speaking Burmese type languages. Koreans are Siberians originating from Lake Baikal speaking the oldest branch of Altaic languages. Two completely different people from the opposite side of the world, and this is why they could tell each other apart just by looking.

Seriously, Jews and Palestinians are far more genetically related to each other than Koreans and Chinese are.


Does India have a DMZ like border?

Actually he wanted to point at living standard like per capita income compared to South Koreans.

If not, tens of millions of Pakistani refugees would escape to India fleeing starvation. So you definitely don't want to see Pakistan trying something like this.

Pakistan are deeply dependent on western countries from economic aid to military aid. So, they can't act like North Korea.

Even our border is tensed with Pakistan and border shellings were once very common. There is always the threats of terrorists and smugglers sneaking into India. Our border sprang along chilly mountainous region, deserts or salt marshes. Not Pakistanis but illegal Bangladeshis are the problem.
 
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India must pass on the ICBM tech to north korea and iran and then watch the fun in western capitals..................................:cheesy:
 
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Even our border is tensed with Pakistan and border shellings were once very common. There is always the threats of terrorists and smugglers sneaking into India. Our border sprang along chilly mountainous region, deserts or salt marshes. Not Pakistanis but illegal Bangladeshis are the problem.
My point is that is India/Pakistan border able to hold back 1 million people trying to cross? The DMZ can, and this is the reason why North Koreans are fleeing to China when they would get an instant residency card and resettlement financial aid when they cross the DMZ to arrive at the ROK.

If Pakistan tests nukes and ICBMs, then Pakistan would lose all foreign aid and Pakistan too would become like North Korea where tens of thousands of people starve to death each year. Then starving Pakistanis have no choice but go to India as refugees.

India must pass on the ICBM tech to north korea and iran and then watch the fun in western capitals..................................:cheesy:
India is a responsible country and won't do that.
 
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