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No Women Ministry in KP under PTI govt

If Pakistan was Sweden or Denmark, then we might debate the virtues of a ministry dedicated solely for women's issues.

However, given the realities in Pakistan, I strongly favor a ministry whose sole purpose is to address women's issues. In fact, I think there should be a separate legal stream to fast track cases involving crimes against women and children.

If the women's ministry is not performing and wasting money, then the solution is to appoint people who will perform, not to brush it all under the carpet.
 
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WD is charity type work, except they do the nice thing of taking women off the streets and into some small odd jobs.

What you're talking about requires good law making and enforcement of the law.

Law making = MNC's must have 20% women employees in each department
Law enforcement = Cancel their trading license or hold renewal if they don't.

Economic departments have to be mobilized for this job. Don't mix WD ministry for Women's Empowerment ministry.

well in Indian states, new ministries are carved sometimes to provide gainful employment to some politician, but more often to bring administrative focus to a specific area that govt has identified to concentrate on...
so there is social welfare ministry and then there is tribal welfare ministry...

do you mean to say they have a separate women's empowerment ministry already?
 
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Respect is given to those worthy of it. Stop talking nonsense and expecting respect. Anyway, I've merely commented upon your inability to get a point across without ridiculous dialogues. Such rhetoric is the weapon of a fool fighting without facts.



Actually that's an opinion, not reality.

A ministry to oversee Women's Development Fund has nothing to do with "socio-cultural onslaught". If the Zakat and Ushr fund also goes out and removes beggars off the streets, and Women's Development Ministry also removes beggars off the street, where is the concept of "socio-cultural onslaught".

What your folly is to mistake the Women's Development Ministry as the Women's empowerment ministry. Women will be empowered through law making and law enforcement. It's not like the WD ministry was getting women who were not allowed to go to school, to go to school. Simply put that wasn't the WD's job.


Actually you're the one who is playing a game of twister with logic and clutching at straws to connect disparate illogical arguments.


They have been VOTED for that position. JI has been VOTED. If you have any issue with the way KPK voted, try harder next time. The right to govern has been accorded to them by the people of KPK.


Let's see, removing redundancy? Check.
Carrying on with their campaign promise of introducing Welfare. Check.


Nobody would be spewing illogical nonsense that you're regurgitating here in pretense of an actual debate.


PTI's credentials have been well represented prior to elections. They have gotten their votes and have formed the government. It's you who should accept it.


If you have such great evidence against JI's representation of the terrorists, why don't you take them to courts?

If you can speak with proper grammar, punctuation marks and paragraphing... Then you can perhaps convey your message. Then I can perhaps answer you.
to your never ending robotic , over educated, over-passionate, self praising , rommantic idealogy of love with PTI!
open up your eyes the problem isnt is limited over dam zakat & ushar commties?
its the fall out of the ****** war culture, with financial blackmail of the century? & its happening in KPK? with the full agreement of PTI ?
women teachers & student told to stay at home & would be finned if seen bey-parda within the given standards of the wahabi terrorists calling themselves the keepers of islam, supported directly by JI & its look a like organizations in KPK?
& just check you dam denial of the ground realities poping up day & night?
now may i make it more simpler for your over-educated but never realistic mind, that PTI is bieng black mailed & bullied by wahabi terrorits through thier, political wing JI?
& if not stopped it will keep following PTì into the dark ages,before islam?
womens minstry is very important part of our civilized world, even in many western countries it was followed just because,they think they need to improve the thinking & working capacity of thier womens who they think is the founder of future generations to come?

while our overeducated class like yours are just in state of denial of the womens problems & thier solutions through thier own authority, because to rule the dam province? maybe frist ever rule? a rule which couldnt be posible if not joinned or obeyed the wahabi fighting terrorists or thier supporters like JI?
now as you said,that why i couldnt go to courts to get a total ban on JI?
frist of all our judges are affraid of them or bieng called anti islam in a wouldbe reaction to thier suspected action against those terrorits?
thats why in past 5 years there wasnt a single death sentence been awarded to the terrorits?
it doesnt matters for them?
never mind then we hve the silent jurries deciding on the spot with a bullet in tbier heads & when we do that we hve been called killers of islam? but it also doesnt matters?
cause we are doing to save our mallalas, whom PTI, you & those terrorists mullahs dont give a dam about it?
thats what we are doung now? & we dont need coward & criminal judges to support us?

i dont need your overeducated foolish nonsense answer to get my oders ? just keep it to show some wahabi mullaha, who can greet you of your knowledge in the defence of his terrorism which he thinks is islam?
all i wanted was to put in your over educated mind is, with these actions PTI is about to lose itself, even from KPK, & its END is going to be more scary thn ANP?
 
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to your never ending robotic , over educated, over-passionate, self praising , rommantic idealogy of love with PTI!
open up your eyes the problem isnt is limited over dam zakat & ushar commties?
its the fall out of the ****** war culture, with financial blackmail of the century? & its happening in KPK? with the full agreement of PTI ?
women teachers & student told to stay at home & would be finned if seen bey-parda within the given standards of the wahabi terrorists calling themselves the keepers of islam, supported directly by JI & its look a like organizations in KPK?
& just check you dam denial of the ground realities poping up day & night?
now may i make it more simpler for your over-educated but never realistic mind, that PTI is bieng black mailed & bullied by wahabi terrorits through thier, political wing JI?
& if not stopped it will keep following PTì into the dark ages,before islam?
womens minstry is very important part of our civilized world, even in many western countries it was followed just because,they think they need to improve the thinking & working capacity of thier womens who they think is the founder of future generations to come?

while our overeducated class like yours are just in state of denial of the womens problems & thier solutions through thier own authority, because to rule the dam province? maybe frist ever rule? a rule which couldnt be posible if not joinned or obeyed the wahabi fighting terrorists or thier supporters like JI?
now as you said,that why i couldnt go to courts to get a total ban on JI?
frist of all our judges are affraid of them or bieng called anti islam in a wouldbe reaction to thier suspected action against those terrorits?
thats why in past 5 years there wasnt a single death sentence been awarded to the terrorits?
it doesnt matters for them?
never mind then we hve the silent jurries deciding on the spot with a bullet in tbier heads & when we do that we hve been called killers of islam? but it also doesnt matters?
cause we are doing to save our mallalas, whom PTI, you & those terrorists mullahs dont give a dam about it?
thats what we are doung now? & we dont need coward & criminal judges to support us?

i dont need your overeducated foolish nonsense answer to get my oders ? just keep it to show some wahabi mullaha, who can greet you of your knowledge in the defence of his terrorism which he thinks is islam?
all i wanted was to put in your over educated mind is, with these actions PTI is about to lose itself, even from KPK, & its END is going to be more scary thn ANP?


Ooooooo bhie saab gusa maat karyain ..blood pressure ho jaye ga ...u r not a real batman :) u can talk **** about PTI, all you want ..it is just ur frustration that yu cant accept chantge :) u can disgest the fact PTI bring all the educated class out to vote ...
NOw u can say off topic and report me again ... offcourse that is the most cyber batman can do :P
 
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to your never ending robotic , over educated, over-passionate, self praising , rommantic idealogy of love with PTI!

How educated should I be? I'm educated a normal amount.

open up your eyes the problem isnt is limited over zakag & ushar commties?

We are specifically talking about the news of PTI discontinuing WD ministry. That's what's called about talking on topic - you on the other hand want to talk about Saas bahu issues in KPK in a topic about WD ministry.

It shows your utterly weak position in a debate, raise issue A then totally ignore a response to it to raise issue B, then C.

its the fall out of the ****** war culture, with financial blackmail of the century? & its happeni ng in KPK?
That has nothing to do with WD ministry

women teachers & student told to stay at home & would be finned if seen bey-parda within the given standards of the wahabi terrorists calling themselves the keepers of islam, supported directly by JI & its look a like organizations in KPK?
That has nothing to do with WD ministry
& just check you dam denial of the ground realities poping up day & night?
I did not deny the issues of KPK, I just said: "That has nothing to do with WD ministry"

now may i make it more simpler for your over-educated but never realistic mind, that PTI is bieng black mailed & bullied by wahabi terrorits through thier, political wing JI?
A. I asked you to provide JI has any connection with terrorists. B. So far they are supporting PTI, the elected their candidate as CM.

& if not stopped it will keep following PTì into the dark ages,before islam?
womens minstry is very important part of our civilized world, even in many western countries it was followed just because,they think they need to improve the thinking & working capacity of thier womens who they think is the founder of future generations to come?

while our overeducated class like yours are just in state of denial of the womens problems & thier solutions through thier own authority, because to rule the dam province? maybe frist ever rule? a rule which couldnt be posible if not joinned or obeyed the wahabi fighting terrorists or thier supporters like JI?
now as you said,that why i couldnt go to courts to get a total ban on JI?
frist of all our judges are affraid of them or bieng called anti islam in a wouldbe reaction to thier suspected action against those terrorits?
thats why in past 5 years there wasnt a single death sentence been awarded to the terrorits?
it doesnt matters for them?
never mind then we hve the silent jurries deciding on the spot with a bullet in tbier heads & when we do that we hve been called killers of islam? but it also doesnt matters?
cause we are doing to save our mallalas, whom PTI, you & those terrorists mullahs dont give a dam about it?
thats what we are doung now? & we dont need coward & criminal judges to support us?

i dont nedd your overeducated foolish nonsense answer to get my oders ?
all i wanted was to put in your over educated mind is, with these actions PTI is about to lose itself, even from KPK, & its END is going to be more scary thn ANP?

This is how you create paragraphs. Please go through this article.

Basic Paragraph Structure

Then take the TOEFL exam and report to us your test scores. After that you would be fit to debate on PDF.

To over Jahil people a basic education like mine would seem over-education :D

well in Indian states, new ministries are carved sometimes to provide gainful employment to some politician, but more often to bring administrative focus to a specific area that govt has identified to concentrate on...
so there is social welfare ministry and then there is tribal welfare ministry...

do you mean to say they have a separate women's empowerment ministry already?

No they don't but that would be a decent idea worth fighting for. However this particular development, is just about merging of Social Welfare Ministry, WD Ministry and Zakat and Ushr Ministry.

Which all did charity (or charity type) work.
 
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Handing over the Women Ministry to JAMATI ISLAMI THE BEACON OF ENLIGHTENMENT and WOMEN RIGHTS..yeah good luck with that...
 
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If Pakistan was Sweden or Denmark, then we might debate the virtues of a ministry dedicated solely for women's issues.

However, given the realities in Pakistan, I strongly favor a ministry whose sole purpose is to address women's issues. In fact, I think there should be a separate legal stream to fast track cases involving crimes against women and children.

If the women's ministry is not performing and wasting money, then the solution is to appoint people who will perform, not to brush it all under the carpet.

"Ministry for issues of women" might do that, not WD, which was a ministry for dispensing charitable work. It's wrongful reporting that they are handing over the women's ministry there was never such a thing in existence.
 
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How educated should I be? I'm educated a normal amount.



We are specifically talking about the news of PTI discontinuing WD ministry. That's what's called about talking on topic - you on the other hand want to talk about Saas bahu issues in KPK in a topic about WD ministry.

It shows your utterly weak position in a debate, raise issue A then totally ignore a response to it to raise issue B, then C.


That has nothing to do with WD ministry


That has nothing to do with WD ministry

I did not deny the issues of KPK, I just said: "That has nothing to do with WD ministry"


A. I asked you to provide JI has any connection with terrorists. B. So far they are supporting PTI, the elected their candidate as CM.



This is how you create paragraphs. Please go through this article.

Basic Paragraph Structure

Then take the TOEFL exam and report to us your test scores. After that you would be fit to debate on PDF.

To over Jahil people a basic education like mine would seem over-education :D



No they don't but that would be a decent idea worth fighting for. However this particular development, is just about merging of Social Welfare Ministry, WD Ministry and Zakat and Ushr Ministry.

Which all did charity (or charity type) work.
if it makes you feel better?
no it wont, thats why you came back to answer me?
WD minstry is just denied because of the hidden talbani support to PTI, whom ever attacked it durring the elections for unknown reason?
no its the secret deal which is oppenec up with this non acceptence of WD minstry, even the female charactor of the normal pakistani nation is bieng, put into the style box of mullahs just to rule & power? thats the NAYA KpK of PTI?
well after watching this episode of wahabi mullha obedience, by PTI all i want to say is thanks to pakistani nation, which didnt voted for the modifyied wahabi mullaha sunami, sent with the pucture imran?
i really hope to see, peoples of KPK soon start realising thier fault, & will reject PTI just like whole pakistan has rejected it on 11th may!
well its not how many books you hve read or how you write with lesser mistakes its allways the experince best form of every knowledge?
jihalaat is called bruying your daughter & sisters, its starts in pakistan with those who ban a women to not hve a minstry?
its up to you, where you can put yourself? a jahhil who can read alots of books & can write perfectly, but doesnt hve experince how to treat his daughters & sisters?
 
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1.5 Crore people voted for PML all over Pakistan, .75 crore voted for PTI!

yes but thn why does PTI has just 35 seats in NA if am not wrong?
why couldnt they cant managed to get the official seat of opposition leader in NA?
ohh not enough seats? so who voted for who? who is in govt? right,
friend plz, dont come up with these selfsatisfying logics?
it all sucks when sunami hits 11th may? dont fool others PTI,s game is over & all?
 
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"Ministry for issues of women" might do that, not WD, which was a ministry for dispensing charitable work. It's wrongful reporting that they are handing over the women's ministry there was never such a thing in existence.

However it comes out, I think that forming a dedicated ministry (and making sure it actually does its job) is the government's way of acknowledging that women's rights have long been neglected in society.
 
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However it comes out, I think that forming a dedicated ministry (and making sure it actually does its job) is the government's way of acknowledging that women's rights have long been neglected in society.

its not just your thinking sir, but its called common sense?
thankyou for your kind support for the argument!
 
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The story had worked and now

Women Development ministry has been separated by PTI .


And also Education ministry will also be retained by PTI
 
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The story had worked and now

Women Development ministry has been separated by PTI .


And also Education ministry will also be retained by PTI
plz provide crsdible link?
we have proudly contributed it, by this thread & credit goes to me?:lol:
me the dic-ta-tor?:rofl:
 
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plz provide crsdible link?
we have proudly contributed it, by this thread & credit goes to me?:
me the dic-ta-tor?::

no credit goes to the writer who broke story.
wait for his follow up story.

i gave you the hint.

and nasim will be heading the ministry
 
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