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Amid ongoing zest for locating an economically and environmentally viable coal technology to address the looming energy crisis, the Engineering Development Board has identified Clean Coal Technology to run country's existing power plants. Based entirely on indigenous coal, EDB unveils broad contours of the technology during a workshop organised in collaboration with NUST under its Industrial Research Program, a program developed to foster industry-academia linkages for commercialization of research. The Coal Water Slurry Fuel Technology or CWS is the cheaper, cleaner and environmentally friendly replacement of furnace oil, diesel and natural gas for power generation. It converts coal to liquid form by adding certain amount of water and admixtures to it and is fired just like furnace oil at highly efficient combustion rate at lower temperature. Indigenous coal by virtue of having high moisture content ideally suits this tested technology, which runs power plants in USA, Russia, Indonesia and India. In China around 100 power plants are being run using CWS Technology. The approximate capital cost of a new power plant on CWS Technology is USD 1.25 million while the present thermal power plants only require certain retrofitting of existing power plants especially the boilers, to make them run on CWS in a short span of less than one year. Source - Business Recorder
 
Amid ongoing zest for locating an economically and environmentally viable coal technology to address the looming energy crisis, the Engineering Development Board has identified Clean Coal Technology to run country's existing power plants. Based entirely on indigenous coal, EDB unveils broad contours of the technology during a workshop organised in collaboration with NUST under its Industrial Research Program, a program developed to foster industry-academia linkages for commercialization of research. The Coal Water Slurry Fuel Technology or CWS is the cheaper, cleaner and environmentally friendly replacement of furnace oil, diesel and natural gas for power generation. It converts coal to liquid form by adding certain amount of water and admixtures to it and is fired just like furnace oil at highly efficient combustion rate at lower temperature. Indigenous coal by virtue of having high moisture content ideally suits this tested technology, which runs power plants in USA, Russia, Indonesia and India. In China around 100 power plants are being run using CWS Technology. The approximate capital cost of a new power plant on CWS Technology is USD 1.25 million while the present thermal power plants only require certain retrofitting of existing power plants especially the boilers, to make them run on CWS in a short span of less than one year. Source - Business Recorder



Fraud!

Do not trust these fraudsters.
 
We must learn to use Domestic resources to produce electricity and save this huge burden of Imported Fossil fuel that gives us 12 to 15 billion usd Trade Deficit each year.

Worldwide , 60% of electricity is produced by burning coal and we have tons of this coal which we can use whether thru Gasification or directly.
 
We must learn to use Domestic resources to produce electricity and save this huge burden of Imported Fossil fuel that gives us 12 to 15 billion usd Trade Deficit each year.

Worldwide , 60% of electricity is produced by burning coal and we have tons of this coal which we can use whether thru Gasification or directly.

They say make a slurry of coal as viscous as furnace oil and burn it.
This will be cheaper than gasification.
 
They say make a slurry of coal as viscous as furnace oil and burn it.
This will be cheaper than gasification.




As per book, this sounds OK.

The problem is to put the knowledge of the book into a real life power plant.

And that my friend can only come from a developed country.

I am not sure even China has the clean coal technology. But I could be wrong.
 
Amid ongoing zest for locating an economically and environmentally viable coal technology to address the looming energy crisis, the Engineering Development Board has identified Clean Coal Technology to run country's existing power plants. Based entirely on indigenous coal, EDB unveils broad contours of the technology during a workshop organised in collaboration with NUST under its Industrial Research Program, a program developed to foster industry-academia linkages for commercialization of research. The Coal Water Slurry Fuel Technology or CWS is the cheaper, cleaner and environmentally friendly replacement of furnace oil, diesel and natural gas for power generation. It converts coal to liquid form by adding certain amount of water and admixtures to it and is fired just like furnace oil at highly efficient combustion rate at lower temperature. Indigenous coal by virtue of having high moisture content ideally suits this tested technology, which runs power plants in USA, Russia, Indonesia and India. In China around 100 power plants are being run using CWS Technology. The approximate capital cost of a new power plant on CWS Technology is USD 1.25 million while the present thermal power plants only require certain retrofitting of existing power plants especially the boilers, to make them run on CWS in a short span of less than one year. Source - Business Recorder


Something seriously wrong with the figures. We have read news that GOP has signed an agreement to build 1100 MW nuclear plant for $8-billion. $1.25-million could be the conversion cost of an existing plant to use CWS.

A decent size new power plant would require a minimum of $400 to $500-million in capital costs. Cost of the boilers, steam turbine & the generators remain the same; certainly not a mere $1.25-million! This is the approximate cost of a single windmill unit generating about 1 MW electricity. Besides you have got to mine Thar coal before you can use it which is yet to start.

Standard of journalism in Pakistan leaves a lot to be desired.
 
The whole article is piece of crap. Are they kidding us? USD1.25M for conversion... ho hee na jaye!

Even the consultancy fee will be 5 times more. The whole article stinks propaganda. Salay, saray kay saray "scientists" bannay huay hain, Pakistan mein. :D

Something seriously wrong with the figures. We have read news that GOP has signed an agreement to build 1100 MW nuclear plant for $8-billion. $1.25-million could be the conversion cost of an existing plant to use CWS.

A decent size new power plant would require a minimum of $400 to $500-million in capital costs. Cost of the boilers, steam turbine & the generators remain the same; certainly not a mere $1.25-million! This is the approximate cost of a single windmill unit generating about 1 MW electricity. Besides you have got to mine Thar coal before you can use it which is yet to start.

Standard of journalism in Pakistan leaves a lot to be desired.
 
The whole article is piece of crap. Are they kidding us? USD1.25M for conversion... ho hee na jaye!

Even the consultancy fee will be 5 times more. The whole article stinks propaganda. Salay, saray kay saray "scientists" bannay huay hain, Pakistan mein. :D

We have many graduates of the Agha Waqar University of Saans and Tuknalojee holding important positions.
 
First a fact based article on Power:

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Power minister


Dr Farrukh Saleem
Sunday, June 23, 2013
From Print Edition


Capital suggestion

Sir, there are 12 government-run registered companies that collectively lose Rs400 billion a year. They are: Lesco, Gepco, Iesco, Fesco, Mepco, Hesco, Qesco, Pesco, Jamshoro Power, Central Power, Northern Power and Lakhra Power. Sir, if you are the de facto appointing authority of the chief executive officers of the dirty dozen, then the Rs400 billion burden is on your shoulders.

Sir, your experts are telling you three things: our fuel mix is not right; we will convert furnace oil-boilers to coal and that we need to jack up the tariff by a wholesome 70 percent. This is all hogwash; pies in the sky.

To begin with, developing huge coalmines require billions of dollars – billions that we don’t have. Second, conversion kits will cost a couple of billion dollars – billions that we don’t have. Third, no one will finance the burning of coal. Fourth, the supply-chain infrastructure will cost billions of dollars – billions that we don’t have. Finally, the PPP doubled the tariff with no end to circular debt (higher tariff means more theft). Sir, none of that is ever going to happen to any significant degree to make much of a difference.

Sir, a single 500 MW plant needs 3,337,000 kg of coal a day. Consider this: we will need 100,000 tons of coal a day and our current production is 8,000 tons a day. We need billions of dollars to set up a complete supply-chain of thousands of coal-carrying trucks and thousands of rail freight bogies connecting the port and the power plants. Can China help? We may be able to convert a few hundred megawatts, but please don’t hold out for pies in the sky.

Dear Minister, some 200 so-called state-owned enterprises (SOEs) lose Rs500 billion a year. Of the 200 SOEs, a total of 12 manage to lose Rs400 billion a year; 80 percent of the entire loss. Sir, take care of the dirty dozen and you would have taken care of 80 percent of the *****. Of the Rs400 billion, 50 percent is theft and the other 50 percent is owed by various governments, federal and provincial.

Sir, the federal government, its attached departments, autonomous and semi-autonomous bodies, joint staff headquarters, military dairy farms, the President’s House, the PM’s Secretariat, the residence of chairman senate, residences of federal ministers, the Election Commission, the Supreme Court, the Federal Police, the Intelligence Bureau and the FIA all owe billions.

Dear Minister, Sindh owes Rs61 billion, Punjab Rs9 billion, AJK Rs20 billion and the KESC Rs50 billion. Of the Rs400 billion loss, one-half is theft (and inefficiencies); electricity theft, transformer theft, cable theft and furnace oil theft (the other half is owed by the government and the private sector).

Sir, the good news is that you will be able to find strategic partners/operators for the Gencos. Sir, the good news is that there is market appetite for the distribution companies. There is just no way that you – or your ministry – can restructure the Discos; they must be privatised straight away. Start with the best – Fesco, Gepco, Lesco and Iesco – where bill-collection losses are 1.5 percent, 1.5 percent, 4 percent and 4.2 percent, respectively. Next, professionalise Nepra.

Dear Khawaja Sahib, coal is baloney and ‘baloney is the lie laid on so thick you ought to hate it and blarney is flattery laid on so thin most ministers love it’.

The writer is a columnist based in Islamabad. Email: farrukh15@hotmail.com

Twitter: @Saleemfarrukh


Power minister - Dr Farrukh Saleem

Unquote.

Unlike other journalists, Dr Farrukh Saleem articles are based on solid facts. It so happens that I know a little bit about energy too.

I concur with Dr F. Saleem's assertion that conversion of existing plants to coal would be too expensive and waste of money and therefore not to be considered. No one who has info about coal & oil prices can deny that even imported coal or imported delayed petroleum coke is a cheaper fuel than imported furnace oil. My disagreement is the assumption that all the coal needs to be transported by trucks to upcountry locations and that he dismisses use of coal altogether.

We can start by setting up new coal fired power plants at Karachi and at Port Qassim; this would save us coal transportation costs to upcountry locations. Power thus generated used for consumption for Karachi & Sind. Additionally work on Thar coal mining should start right away and power plant set up next to the coal mine. Billion required for this venture is an investment for the future of Pakistan and not a waste.

Finally should provincial gov’t insist on have power generation located in Punjab (say); imported coal can be transported by rail network and delivered at the plant location. No need to transport in thousands of trucks.

Therefore In my humble opinion “Coal is not a baloney” and all new power plants should be based on coal, whether imported or indigenous.
 
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