new pakistan military helicopters?

[muse]

they can perform normal 'overhauls' - no upgrades

So what's all this about sending the Mi17 to Czechoslovakia?

 

[fatman17]

So what's all this about sending the Mi17 to Czechoslovakia?

about 10 used Mi-17s were provided by the US. they were over-hauled in CZH before delivery to PAA. one crashed as the overhaul was not properly done. the other 9 were then sent back. PAA has been overhauling soviet legacy helos like Mi-8s and now Mi-17s for many years.

 

[@rrows]

T-129 is also a viable option for Pak Army

Specifications (T-129)

Data from TAI T-129 brochure[25] AgustaWestland T-129 Data[26]

General characteristics
Crew: 2 pilots
Length: 14.6 m (47 ft 11 in)
Rotor diameter: 11.90 m (39 ft 0 in)
Height: 3.4 m (11 ft 2 in)
Disc area: 111.22 m² (1,197.25 ft²)
Max takeoff weight: 5,000 kg (11,023 lb)
Powerplant: 2 × LHTEC CTS800-4A turboshaft, 1,014 kW (1,361 shp) each
Rotor systems: 5 blades on main rotor

Performance
Cruise speed: 269 km/h (145 knots, 167 mph)
Range: 561 km (303 nmi, 341 mi)
Ferry range: 1,000 km (540 nmi, 620 mi)
Service ceiling: 6,096 m (20,000 ft)
Rate of climb: 14.0 m/s (2,750 ft/min)

Armament
Guns: 1× 20 mm (0.787 in) three-barrel gatling-type cannon (500 rounds)
Rockets: 4 pods with
38× 81 mm (3.19 in) unguided rockets or
76× 70 mm (2.75 in) unguided rockets or
12.7 mm (0.50 in) machine gun-pod
Missiles:
8× AGM-114 Hellfire, BGM-71 TOW, Hydra 70, Spike-ER, UMTAS, Roketsan Cirit anti-tank and anti-armor missiles and Sura D/Snora.
4-8× AIM-92 Stinger or Mistral or AIM-9 Sidewinder anti-aircraft missiles

 

[Jango]

i got hoola hoops looking at the price of the V-22!!!!

 

[Juice]

WANT THE future - go for the Wz10. There is little point to adding 5 or 20 helicopters, what Pakistan need is a technology package and it's simply pointless talking about western this or that, it's a game of commissions and future losses.

Pakistan have to walk on their own road, it will always be a lonely road - and that is best for Pakistan.

HIT, PAC Kamra, now an institution for the study and manufacture of turbine engines.

You may not build indigenous soon, but you are right. Pakistan should at least push for local sub-contracters in any deal, to build tech know-how.

 

[Zabaniyah]

Combat helicopters are important. Especially fighting terrorists and militants. It's hard to find the best one though. Regarding Russian made KA-50, I doubt if the Russians would provide it because of India.

China, and EU are Pakistan's best options as far as a reliable supplier goes. Albeit the latter being much more expensive, but proven. Getting into ToT also helps.

 

[Rank]

bas kardoo yaar .... we have option of F16s... we will go for Attack helicopter... we will go for blaa bla... economy ka satyaa naas kardiya hey !

 

[Arsalan]

new helos in the pipeline

10 - Mi-17I's from ulan-ude.
30 - Bell-412P under FMS/CISF
12 - AH-1Z Super-Cobras under FMS/CISF

the Super Cobra! is this finalized and inked.
with the relations between Pakistan and US on the downfall will this deal materialize?

 

[Zabaniyah]

self delete

 

[krash]

bas kardoo yaar .... we have option of F16s... we will go for Attack helicopter... we will go for blaa bla... economy ka satyaa naas kardiya hey !

Yes! You are right! So lets start paying our taxes shall we!?!?

 

[Thorough Pro]

if pakistan is going for tactical transportation heli then i perfer the beauty v22 osprey.

Osprey is a failure.

 

[Arsalan]

if pakistan is going for tactical transportation heli then i perfer the beauty v22 osprey.

NO! not an American platform.
moreover it is VERY expensive.

specially there is no need to spend millions when the Mi-17 are doing a fine job.
in our terrain, all we need the choppers to transport are troops and we don't have to airlift our tanks or APC. for this the Mi-17 are good. we have the maintenance facilities and now china is also manufacturing these so no issue with parts or upgrades!

 

[fatman17]

the Super Cobra! is this finalized and inked.
with the relations between Pakistan and US on the downfall will this deal materialize?

its planned AFAIK as part of the 2012-13 CISF. US$500m for 12-14 units.

 

[Super Falcon]

wel wel wel our armed forces are in compitant corrupt,enemy of nation eating money and buying nothing for country bellieve i was biggest patriote of army but when i see army is supporting those who are our enemy which means friend of my enemy is my enemy which our army clearly is they are doing nothing busy in corruption what they have done till now for nation nothing you see kharotabad than killing of youngsters by rangers no matter what army dont have any authority to even point gun on its citizens. why army people are sitting in airports when it is not their job their job is to go in deserts and train not in cities

 

[Arsalan]

its planned AFAIK as part of the 2012-13 CISF. US$500m for 12-14 units.

thanks,
it will be good if we can get these from US funds money. i hope we don't have to spend our $$ for this platform as this can then be used to buy something from turkey/china as backup in case the relations between Pakistan and US AGAIN get bad!