Nearly half of Taiwanese unwilling to fight to defend nation

[beijingwalker]

Nearly half of Taiwanese unwilling to fight to defend nation
By George Liao, Taiwan News, Staff Writer

2020/07/20 20:57


TAIPEI (Taiwan News) — About 75 percent of Taiwanese agree with the proposition that Taiwan should extend the period of military conscription instead of adopting a completely voluntary recruitment policy, according to a recent survey carried out by ETtoday.

Among the respondents, 50.8 percent strongly agree with the proposition, 24.4 percent slightly agree, 12 percent slightly disagree, 5.9 percent totally disagree, and 7 percent have no opinion, per China Times.

Before 2000, Taiwan's conscription system mandated that all males over the age of 18 serve two years in the military. This has since been shortened to four months of basic training.

As tensions between the United States and China continue to rise, the situation around the Taiwan Strait has become more treacherous. Some scholars have even predicted a war within three years, according to the report.

If war were to break out between Taiwan and China, 40.9 percent of those surveyed said that they are willing to fight or would not object to their family's participation, while 49.1 percent said the opposite.

Compared to the results of a previous survey, the percentage of people willing to take up arms in defense of Taiwan or support family members in doing so has increased significantly, perhaps owing to increased anxiety over China's true intentions after recent events such as the implementation of Beijing's new national security law for Hong Kong.

Those willing to fight for Taiwan are typically male, between the ages of 30 and 39, and with party affiliations slanting towards the green coalition, which includes supporters of the Democratic Progressive Party and New Power Party among others.

The ETtoday survey was conducted among Taiwanese over 20 years of age between July 15 and 16, and 2,640 valid samples were collected. The survey has a margin of error of plus or minus 1.91 percent with a 95 percent confidence interval.

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[beijingwalker]

Gallup global survey - "Would you fight for your country?

 

[Surya 1]

Nearly half of Taiwanese unwilling to fight to defend nation
By George Liao, Taiwan News, Staff Writer

2020/07/20 20:57


TAIPEI (Taiwan News) — About 75 percent of Taiwanese agree with the proposition that Taiwan should extend the period of military conscription instead of adopting a completely voluntary recruitment policy, according to a recent survey carried out by ETtoday.

Among the respondents, 50.8 percent strongly agree with the proposition, 24.4 percent slightly agree, 12 percent slightly disagree, 5.9 percent totally disagree, and 7 percent have no opinion, per China Times.

Before 2000, Taiwan's conscription system mandated that all males over the age of 18 serve two years in the military. This has since been shortened to four months of basic training.

As tensions between the United States and China continue to rise, the situation around the Taiwan Strait has become more treacherous. Some scholars have even predicted a war within three years, according to the report.

If war were to break out between Taiwan and China, 40.9 percent of those surveyed said that they are willing to fight or would not object to their family's participation, while 49.1 percent said the opposite.

Compared to the results of a previous survey, the percentage of people willing to take up arms in defense of Taiwan or support family members in doing so has increased significantly, perhaps owing to increased anxiety over China's true intentions after recent events such as the implementation of Beijing's new national security law for Hong Kong.

Those willing to fight for Taiwan are typically male, between the ages of 30 and 39, and with party affiliations slanting towards the green coalition, which includes supporters of the Democratic Progressive Party and New Power Party among others.

The ETtoday survey was conducted among Taiwanese over 20 years of age between July 15 and 16, and 2,640 valid samples were collected. The survey has a margin of error of plus or minus 1.91 percent with a 95 percent confidence interval.

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75.2% of those surveyed agree Taiwan should expand military conscription | 2020-07-20 20:57:00

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This means half is ready. Now remove old, laddies and children. The percentage is very high.

 

[dbc]

Could it be that the people in the countries at the bottom of you list have evolved their thinking and come to the realization that war itself is pointless? While wolf warriors such as @Feng Leng wants to nuke and set fire to the whole world. There is an inevitable future when the population of this world will not care about race, religion and national boundaries.

 

[beijingwalker]

This means half is ready. Now remove old, laddies and children. The percentage is very high.

Not half, 40.9 percent, and They didn't poll old, laddies and children. besides, Taiwan's population is very small, if only these many are willing to fight, they don't stand a chance aganist any adversaries, there are also a considerable number of people in Taiwan will fight for PRC if a war breaks out, enough fifth columns in that islands.

 

[TNT]

Lets be realistic, militarily taking over taiwan should be a joke for PLA. lts the international ramifications that keeps china from taking taiwan. When conditions are favourable, they will swiftly take it over.

 

[Beidou2020]

Could it be that the people in the countries at the bottom of you list have evolved their thinking and come to the realization that war itself is pointless? While wolf warriors such as @Feng Leng wants to nuke and set fire to the whole world. There is an inevitable future when the population of this world will not care about race, religion and national boundaries.

Feng Leng is a legend on this forum.

 

[8888888888888]

males from age 20 to 29 will be called up, the others just wash their hands off and wishes those group to do their dirty work. those separatists have no heart and no brain.

 

[lcloo]

If a war break out, it will be a case of a highly motivated volunteer army against a forced conscribed army. It will be the repeat of the 1946-1949 Chinese civil war with a difference.

The difference will be mainlanders are now having technological and numerical advantage over the islanders, a reverse of the 1947-1949 civil war.

KMT forces in 1946 numbered 4.3 million against PLA's 1.2 million, and were supplied with American equipment including M4 Sherman tanks and aircrafts including B-24 bombers and P-51 Mustang fighters, also KMT navy had a cruiser and some destroyers.

PLA was just a ground forces with no tanks, no navy and no air force.

By 1949, when KMT retreated to Taiwan, their forces were reduced from 4.3 million to 1.49 million while PLA's forces rose from 1.2 million to 4 million with millions defected from KMT to PLA, including many navy and air force personnel together with their ships and aircraft.

Back to today, Taiwan still maintain a conscribed army with many unwilling but forced to join. Many simply will not fight but rather take a quick flight out of Taiwan because they have many "back doors" to escape - to USA, Japan, Canada etc.

Taiwan will not be able to stand against PLA attack, the question is how long will they last, 24 hours or a week?

 

[Suika]

The PLA Navy and PRC coast can present a strong force inside the Taiwan Strait but they'll still be unable to successfully maintain a blockade around the full island of Taiwan. And PLA naval vessels that try to venture through the south Okinawa islands and into the east side of Taiwan would be subject to overwhelming US and Japanese naval forces. By being unable to maintain a blockade, US and Japanese force will be able to land on the island on the east side an maintain a long battle of attrition on any PRC forces that land on the island. While all that is going on, PRC sea lanes of communication outside the first island chain will be cut thus the US and Japan remain connected in the sea lanes of trade while everything the PRC receives by sea will cease to come. In the end of it, PRC forces retreat with "victory" just like how they pulled out of Vietnam in 1978. And Taiwan changes its name from ROC to ROT since it no longer had anything to lose with the PRC attacking.

Taiwan is not deeply Chinese. It was never part of the long history of Han dynasties. The Europeans made colonies on Taiwan before any China jurisdiction existed on the island. Taiwan become part of the Qing dynasty only because the Ming loyalist were losing in a war and ran away, off the main land and onto a small part of Taiwan island. The Qing chased after the Ming to finish them off and figured "here, while were here, let's stay" ensuring rebellions against the Qing almost every year from the locals.

CCP China keeps pushing into greater and greater danger with this ridiculous claim they have on Taiwan..

 

[52051]

The PLA Navy and PRC coast can present a strong force inside the Taiwan Strait but they'll still be unable to successfully maintain a blockade around the full island of Taiwan. And PLA naval vessels that try to venture through the south Okinawa islands and into the east side of Taiwan would be subject to overwhelming US and Japanese naval forces. By being unable to maintain a blockade, US and Japanese force will be able to land on the island on the east side an maintain a long battle of attrition on any PRC forces that land on the island. While all that is going on, PRC sea lanes of communication outside the first island chain will be cut thus the US and Japan remain connected in the sea lanes of trade while everything the PRC receives by sea will cease to come. In the end of it, PRC forces retreat with "victory" just like how they pulled out of Vietnam in 1978. And Taiwan changes its name from ROC to ROT since it no longer had anything to lose with the PRC attacking.

Taiwan is not deeply Chinese. It was never part of the long history of Han dynasties. The Europeans made colonies on Taiwan before any China jurisdiction existed on the island. Taiwan become part of the Qing dynasty only because the Ming loyalist were losing in a war and ran away, off the main land and onto a small part of Taiwan island. The Qing chased after the Ming to finish them off and figured "here, while were here, let's stay" ensuring rebellions against the Qing almost every year from the locals.

CCP China keeps pushing into greater and greater danger with this ridiculous claim they have on Taiwan..

Good story, however the US military's vice chief of staff believed China can take over Taiwan in 3 days, so probably less than the time your wrote this novel

 

[Suika]

Good story, however the US military's vice chief of staff believed China can take over Taiwan in 3 days, so probably less than the time your wrote this novel

In the present and the past, there are lots of these "can win/lose in 3 days". Why keep playing dumb? Because its convinient...

 

[52051]

In the present and the past, there are lots of these "can win/lose in 3 days". Why keep playing dumb? Because its convinient...

Is this the reason you keep playing dumb? I doubt, I am incline to believe you are just being dumb anyway

 

[Suika]

Is this the reason you keep playing dumb? I doubt, I am incline to believe you are just being dumb anyway

Again, Taiwan was not part of the long history of China. It was never part of the old Han dynasties like Hong Kong was. Even the Europeans from the other side of planet got to Taiwan before and Han dynasty set up any level of jurisdiction on there. And the Qing only got there because it went after run away remains of the Ming.

For today, despite the rapid growth and modernization of the PLA forces, it cannot sustain a full blockade around Taiwan. If it cannot do that, then it cannot capture the island.

 

[beijingwalker]

Again, Taiwan was not part of the long history of China. It was never part of the old Han dynasties like Hong Kong was. Even the Europeans from the other side of planet got to Taiwan before and Han dynasty set up any level of jurisdiction on there. And the Qing only got there because it went after run away remains of the Ming.

For today, despite the rapid growth and modernization of the PLA forces, it cannot sustain a full blockade around Taiwan. If it cannot do that, then it cannot capture the island.

People in Taiwan are ethnic Han Chinese, and Taiwan is so close to the mainland, China is getting more wealthy and powerful by each passing day, Taiwan's fate is destined to be with the mainland, there is no other possibilities.