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Nawaz Sharif vs ISI

It seems you are praying for the downfall of the country just to bring khan to power. How nice...

lol Pakistan needs people like your way of thinking....

To be really honest, I want him to do really well ... and i know u think people supporting PTI are emotional ..i accept it becuase my badge of engineering students were out last year ..half of them still have no jobs , you have to plan everything according to load sheeding and CNG .. So they are extremely frustrated and disappointed .. They lash out on facebook and sometime they bully alot .. but that is becuase they are extremely angry and frustrated .. i hope u understand my point ... and they way PML N IS calling them facebook party and bugers yopu are just agitating them ... Please advice your friends in PML N to stop mocking the nation .. that will go against them
 
Sharif must strike against ISI fast and hard

The moment Nawaz Sharif becomes Prime Minister of Pakistan, the clock will begin ticking against him. There is nothing surprising in this, in all democracies, the highest point in the political life of a prime minister is on the day he takes office. Thereafter, it is downhill till the next election.

Now, if Sharif is conscious of this, the one thing he should do on day one is to issue on order placing the Inter Services Intelligence Directorate (ISI) under civilian leadership. In one fell swoop, he will defang the Army of the most potent instrument it uses to distort Pakistani democracy. Every day that he delays taking action against the ISI, will be a delay that will cost him much more when the confrontation with the Army takes place, as it inevitably will, down the line.

This is a no brainer. In July 2008, Pakistan People’s Party prime minister Yousaf Raza Gilani issued a notification placing the ISI under the control of the Interior Ministry headed by Rehman Malik, but within hours the Army and the then president, Pervez Musharraf, forced him to withdraw the notification. That had a lot to do with the fact that Gilani was a light weight and that the PPP had waited several months till after the general elections that swept them into power, to act.

Nawaz Sharif has come to power with a much stronger showing and he has the clout within the Punjabi establishment to put the army in its place. More than that, he has reasons to distrust the Army which overthrew his government in 1999 and sought to hang him for treason. Sharif has shown an inclination to take on the men in khaki. In October 1998, he sacked General Jehangir Karamat from his position as the Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee and the Chief of Army Staff of the Pakistan Army. It is another matter that he made the disastrous choice of replacing him with Pervez Musharraf. This time around, Sharif is on record declaring that he will go by seniority when it comes to appointing a new chief in succession to Ashfaq Pervez Kayani who retires at the end of July this year, having enjoyed a three-year extension of service.

But the ISI is quite another thing. Last November, the Pakistan Supreme Court ruled in the Asghar Khan case that former ISI chief Lt General Asad Durrani and Army chief Mirza Aslam Beg had collected Rs 140 million to rig the elections against Benazir Bhutto and the PPP in 1990. Ironically, one of the recipients was Nawaz Sharif who was at that time seen as a creation of the Army to offset the political allure of Benazir. But while politicians got half the money, the ISI and the Army kept the balance for their own use.

This is just the tip of the iceberg of the ISI’s malign activities within Pakistan which includes all manner of skullduggery, including the intimidation of journalists and other democratic elements. No democracy, such as one Pakistan aspires to be, should permit an intelligence agency to be run the way the ISI is. While all countries need intelligence services, they also need to be under the control of the government of the day, not its army.

Even as an external intelligence agency, the ISI has been a law unto itself. The attacks on the Indian Embassy in Kabul in 2008 and 2009 are instances of action which went against Pakistan’s own foreign policy. As for the Mumbai attack of November 2008, there are clear indications that some elements of the ISI were involved in what was clearly an act of international terrorism. All this may still happen in an intelligence agency controlled by the civilian government, but at least the accountability for its actions will be transparent.

Nawaz Sharif has a huge agenda before him. Pakistan is being torn from within by Sunni extremists like the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi and the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan. Groups like the Lashkar-e-Tayyeba are involved in terrorist operations in India and Afghanistan, if not other countries. And the Haqqani network facilitates the activities of these groups, as well of the Afghan Taliban from Pakistani territory in North Waziristan. Any new government in Pakistan must establish its complete authority in its boundaries. But here, again, the government comes up against the activities of the ISI which use groups like the LeT and the Haqqani network to further its policies.

Then, there is the need for Sharif to right the listing Pakistani economy. He is aware that in great measure the support he got was because the people were fed up of the misgovernance of the PPP government.

However, first things must come first. And that is to establish the writ of the Pakistani government over all the segments of Pakistani society and its sovereign territory. To this end, the biggest obstacle it confronts is the ISI and the Army who feel that they represent the idea of Pakistan better than any group of elected officials. Sharif must act, because it is his survival which will eventually be at stake.

The writer is Distinguished Fellow at the Observer Research Foundation, New Delhi

Why post Indian BS? Who cares what some jerk thinks in New or Old Delhi??
 
To be really honest, I want him to do really well ... and i know u think people supporting PTI are emotional ..i accept it becuase my badge of engineering students were out last year ..half of them still have no jobs , you have to plan everything according to load sheeding and CNG .. So they are extremely frustrated and disappointed .. They lash out on facebook and sometime they bully alot .. but that is becuase they are extremely angry and frustrated .. i hope u understand my point ... and they way PML N IS calling them facebook party and bugers yopu are just agitating them ... Please advice your friends in PML N to stop mocking the nation .. that will go against them

Opportunities are also limited in my country of residence too. In the United States alone, 50% of university graduates are unemployed. This whole world is facing economic recession.

I don't have any friends in PML-N and just like you i want the best for the country. Right now i'm just happy PPP is out of the way and there would be people who focus economy as the top prioroty. As far as PTI goes, well to be honest, i really do think Imran is a good person, but people around him are looters, who have seeked adventure in various parties, over the course of many years.
 
Heard from rivals, Imran, Zardari, Altaf, but i didn't hear General Kayani congratulating NS. Let me just say he must be really disappointed.

Others are politicians, Kayani is s subordinate of the Government and an employee of the federation. You should have generalized Kayani with the Governor SBP even though Governor SBP is appointed directly.
 
Opportunities are also limited in my country of residence too. In the United States alone, 50% of university graduates are unemployed. This whole world is facing economic recession.

I don't have any friends in PML-N and just like you i want the best for the country. Right now i'm just happy PPP is out of the way and there would be people who focus economy as the top prioroty. As far as PTI goes, well to be honest, i really do think Imran is a good person, but people around him are looters, who have seeked adventure in various parties, over the course of many years.
Now I am with PTI becuase i have seen that i voted them and they didnt do anything . No opposition no governace ... They have distroyed instituions ( not finacially i must admit ).. You know why most educated awwam is against them, becuase we feel that they are opportunist .. They do politics of votes not for the betterment of country .. as i said i have been following u on pdf , i was pretty mad at u , coz i though u r a paid patwari ( i still have my doubts though :P ) ... You know they could have done alot better ... still you were only focusing that they did some development ... I have never seen you critizing about them .. I know you are senior in age and mature .. but i have seen you defend their wrongs as well ... that is why All educated awaam ( which u call burgers or facebook awaam) is so mad at Pakistan .. that who can i sensiable person can support them ..anyway i still wish PML N best of luck and hope atleast for once they will prove us all wrong ...
 
Won't happen. NS will never challenge Intelligence if he wants to complete his tenure and with respect...other wise he wont last an year and he knows that....

Yes. Doodh ka jala , chaanch bhi phoonk phoonk kar peeta hai or peeay gaa ....
 
To be really honest, I want him to do really well ... and i know u think people supporting PTI are emotional ..i accept it becuase my badge of engineering students were out last year ..half of them still have no jobs , you have to plan everything according to load sheeding and CNG .. So they are extremely frustrated and disappointed .. They lash out on facebook and sometime they bully alot .. but that is becuase they are extremely angry and frustrated .. i hope u understand my point ... and they way PML N IS calling them facebook party and bugers yopu are just agitating them ... Please advice your friends in PML N to stop mocking the nation .. that will go against them

You mean 'batch', don't you?
 
Now I am with PTI becuase i have seen that i voted them and they didnt do anything . No opposition no governace ... They have distroyed instituions ( not finacially i must admit ).. You know why most educated awwam is against them, becuase we feel that they are opportunist .. They do politics of votes not for the betterment of country .. as i said i have been following u on pdf , i was pretty mad at u , coz i though u r a paid patwari ( i still have my doubts though :P ) ... You know they could have down alot better ... still you were only focusing that they did some development ...

All i can say is your vote didn't hold any effect as there were many more people out there, especially people of Punjab trusting the party that they thought delivered under PPP sanctions. Hey after all this is democracy ! :woot:
 
All i can say is your vote didn't hold any effect as there were many more people out there trusting another party. Hey after all this is democracy ! :woot:

Sadly yes .. People are physiological slave of Bhutto and Sharif family ... Afterall PPP still won sindh .. I think yopu didnt got my point .. They women bcoz we have low literacy rate ;)
 
All i can say is your vote didn't hold any effect as there were many more people out there, especially people of Punjab trusting the party that they thought delivered under PPP sanctions. Hey after all this is democracy ! :woot:

You used to be a cool dude, but somewhere after visiting Pakistan you became an ethno-fascist douche bag.

I am full blooded Punjabi, and I can tell you people from my city don't want this dumbass shareef to lead us.
 
You used to be a cool dude, but somewhere after visiting Pakistan you became an ethno-fascist douche bag.

I am full blooded Punjabi, and I can tell you people from my city don't want this dumbass shareef to lead us.

yara pehlay anay to do phir baat karna. I don't expect them to make Pakistan into Germany in 5 years. However, i'm hopeful they will get us out of economic and law and order crisis. If sucessful, i would consider that a huge achievement.
 
yara pehlay anay to do phir baat karna. I don't expect them to make Pakistan into Germany in 5 years. However, i'm hopeful they will get us out of economic and law and order crisis. If sucessful, i would consider that a huge achievement.

Dude, your leader is kissing the asshole of Indians before he even became elected. Explain this to me..
 
Dude, your leader is kissing the asshole of Indians before he even became elected. Explain this to me..

Yeah i know thats not right. But to be honest, every leader out there in Pakistan is pro India. Imran himself visits India quiet frequently and talks about liberalizing trade, visas etc and yes he is also not elected.
 
Yeah i know thats not right. But to be honest, every leader out there in Pakistan is pro India. Imran himself visits India quiet frequently and talks about liberalizing trade, visas etc and yes he is also not elected.

Okay but forget Imran and everyone else.

Why is this ganja turd bowing down to the Indians?
 
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