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ISLAMABAD: Besieged Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has been assured by military that there will be no coup, but in return he must “share space with the army”, according to a government source who was privy to recent talks between the two sides.

Last week, as tens of thousands of protesters advanced on the federal capital to demand his resignation, Sharif dispatched two emissaries to consult with the army chief.

He wanted to know if the military was quietly engineering the twin protest movements by cricket star-turned-politician Imran Khan and activist cleric Tahirul Qadri, or if, perhaps, it was preparing to stage a coup.

According to a government insider with a first-hand account of the meeting, Sharif's envoys returned with good news and bad: there will be no coup but if he wants his government to survive, from now on it will have to share space with the army.

The army's media wing declined to comment.

Thousands of protesters marched to parliament on Tuesday, using a crane and bolt cutters to force their way past barricades of shipping containers, as riot police and paramilitaries watched on after being told not to intervene.

Military spokesman General Asim Bajwa tweeted a reminder to protesters to respect government institutions and called for a “meaningful dialogue” to resolve the crisis.

Even if, as seems likely, the Khan and Qadri protests eventually fizzle out due to a lack of overt support from the military, the prime minister will emerge weakened from political crisis.

Sharif may have to be subservient to the generals on issues he wanted to handle himself — from the fight against Taliban to relations with India and Pakistan's role in neighbouring, post-Nato Afghanistan.

“The biggest loser will be Nawaz, cut down to size both by puny political rivals and the powerful army,” said a government minister who asked not to be named.

“From this moment on, he'll always be looking over his shoulder.”

A year ago, few would have predicted that Sharif would be in such trouble: back then, he had just swept to power for a third time in a milestone poll that marked the first transition from one elected government to another.

But in the months that followed, Sharif — who had crossed swords with the army in the past — moved to enhance the clout of the civilian government in a country that has been ruled by the military for more than half of its history.

He irked the generals by putting former military head Pervez Musharraf, who had ended Sharif's last stint as prime minister in a 1999 coup, on trial for treason.

Sharif is also said to have opposed a military offensive to crush Taliban insurgents and sought reconciliation with India.

India rapprochement at risk

Sources in Sharif's government said that with civilian-military relations in such bad shape, Sharif suspected that the street protests to unseat him were being manipulated from behind the scenes by the army.

He also feared that if the agitations turned violent, the army would exploit the situation to seize power for itself.

However, the two close aides who went to see army chief Raheel Sharif in the garrison town of Rawalpindi last Wednesday were told that the military had no intention of intervening.

“The military does not intend to carry out a coup but ... if the government wants to get through its many problems and the four remaining years of its term, it has to share space with the army,” said the insider, summing up the message they were given.

“Sharing space” is a familiar euphemism for civilian governments focusing narrowly on domestic political affairs and leaving security and strategic policy to the army.

The fact that the military is back in the driving seat will make it harder for Sharif to deliver the rapprochement with India that he promised when he won the election last year.

Indian media speculated this week that Sharif had already been forced by the generals to scuttle peace talks.

New Delhi on Monday called off a meeting between foreign ministry officials of the two countries, which had been set to take place on Aug 25, because Pakistan announced its intention to consult Kashmiri separatists ahead of the meeting.

The Himalayan region of Kashmir has been a bone of contention between India and Pakistan since both gained independence in 1947. The two nations have fought three wars, two of them over Kashmir, and came close to a fourth in 2001.

The Pakistani army's predominance could also mean it could torpedo the government's relationship with Afghanistan, where a regional jostle for influence is expected to intensify after the withdrawal of most foreign forces at the end of this year.

Paying the price

Few believed that the army would back Khan's bid for power even if it used him to put Sharif on the defensive.

“Even the army knows that Imran Khan may be a great pressure cooker in the kitchen, but you can't trust him to be the chef,” said a former intelligence chief who declined to be named.

Sharif may now pay the price for miscalculating that the military may have been willing to let the one-time cricket hero topple him.

“Thinking that Imran could be a game-changer, Nawaz has conceded the maximum to the army,” a Sharif aide said.

“From a czar-like prime minister, they (the army) have reduced him to a deputy commissioner-type character who will deal with the day-to-day running of the country while they take care of the important stuff like Afghanistan and India. This is not a small loss.”

But Sharif's aides say a stint in jail under Musharraf, followed by exile from Pakistan and five years as leader of the opposition party, have made him realise that he needs to share power to survive.

“This is not the old Nawaz, the wild confrontationalist,” said an adviser to the prime minister in Lahore, the capital of his Punjab province power base.

“This is the new Nawaz who has learnt the hard way that politics is about living to fight another day.”



‘From czar-like prime minister to deputy commissioner-type character’ - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
 
Military is a reality in Pakistan and will remain so for at least few more years. Nothing wrong with NS concentrating on domestic issues and making Pakistan prosper some. I hope NS is really the changed person as the last para in the OP mentions.
 
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ISLAMABAD: Besieged Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has been assured by military that there will be no coup, but in return he must “share space with the army”, according to a government source who was privy to recent talks between the two sides.

Last week, as tens of thousands of protesters advanced on the federal capital to demand his resignation, Sharif dispatched two emissaries to consult with the army chief.

He wanted to know if the military was quietly engineering the twin protest movements by cricket star-turned-politician Imran Khan and activist cleric Tahirul Qadri, or if, perhaps, it was preparing to stage a coup.

According to a government insider with a first-hand account of the meeting, Sharif's envoys returned with good news and bad: there will be no coup but if he wants his government to survive, from now on it will have to share space with the army.

The army's media wing declined to comment.

Thousands of protesters marched to parliament on Tuesday, using a crane and bolt cutters to force their way past barricades of shipping containers, as riot police and paramilitaries watched on after being told not to intervene.

Military spokesman General Asim Bajwa tweeted a reminder to protesters to respect government institutions and called for a “meaningful dialogue” to resolve the crisis.

Even if, as seems likely, the Khan and Qadri protests eventually fizzle out due to a lack of overt support from the military, the prime minister will emerge weakened from political crisis.

Sharif may have to be subservient to the generals on issues he wanted to handle himself — from the fight against Taliban to relations with India and Pakistan's role in neighbouring, post-Nato Afghanistan.

“The biggest loser will be Nawaz, cut down to size both by puny political rivals and the powerful army,” said a government minister who asked not to be named.

“From this moment on, he'll always be looking over his shoulder.”

A year ago, few would have predicted that Sharif would be in such trouble: back then, he had just swept to power for a third time in a milestone poll that marked the first transition from one elected government to another.

But in the months that followed, Sharif — who had crossed swords with the army in the past — moved to enhance the clout of the civilian government in a country that has been ruled by the military for more than half of its history.

He irked the generals by putting former military head Pervez Musharraf, who had ended Sharif's last stint as prime minister in a 1999 coup, on trial for treason.

Sharif is also said to have opposed a military offensive to crush Taliban insurgents and sought reconciliation with India.

India rapprochement at risk

Sources in Sharif's government said that with civilian-military relations in such bad shape, Sharif suspected that the street protests to unseat him were being manipulated from behind the scenes by the army.

He also feared that if the agitations turned violent, the army would exploit the situation to seize power for itself.

However, the two close aides who went to see army chief Raheel Sharif in the garrison town of Rawalpindi last Wednesday were told that the military had no intention of intervening.

“The military does not intend to carry out a coup but ... if the government wants to get through its many problems and the four remaining years of its term, it has to share space with the army,” said the insider, summing up the message they were given.

“Sharing space” is a familiar euphemism for civilian governments focusing narrowly on domestic political affairs and leaving security and strategic policy to the army.

The fact that the military is back in the driving seat will make it harder for Sharif to deliver the rapprochement with India that he promised when he won the election last year.

Indian media speculated this week that Sharif had already been forced by the generals to scuttle peace talks.

New Delhi on Monday called off a meeting between foreign ministry officials of the two countries, which had been set to take place on Aug 25, because Pakistan announced its intention to consult Kashmiri separatists ahead of the meeting.

The Himalayan region of Kashmir has been a bone of contention between India and Pakistan since both gained independence in 1947. The two nations have fought three wars, two of them over Kashmir, and came close to a fourth in 2001.

The Pakistani army's predominance could also mean it could torpedo the government's relationship with Afghanistan, where a regional jostle for influence is expected to intensify after the withdrawal of most foreign forces at the end of this year.

Paying the price

Few believed that the army would back Khan's bid for power even if it used him to put Sharif on the defensive.

“Even the army knows that Imran Khan may be a great pressure cooker in the kitchen, but you can't trust him to be the chef,” said a former intelligence chief who declined to be named.

Sharif may now pay the price for miscalculating that the military may have been willing to let the one-time cricket hero topple him.

“Thinking that Imran could be a game-changer, Nawaz has conceded the maximum to the army,” a Sharif aide said.

“From a czar-like prime minister, they (the army) have reduced him to a deputy commissioner-type character who will deal with the day-to-day running of the country while they take care of the important stuff like Afghanistan and India. This is not a small loss.”

But Sharif's aides say a stint in jail under Musharraf, followed by exile from Pakistan and five years as leader of the opposition party, have made him realise that he needs to share power to survive.

“This is not the old Nawaz, the wild confrontationalist,” said an adviser to the prime minister in Lahore, the capital of his Punjab province power base.

“This is the new Nawaz who has learnt the hard way that politics is about living to fight another day.”



‘From czar-like prime minister to deputy commissioner-type character’ - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

I always knew it that army wants to bring NS under control and rightly so since he was overstepping the limits set by deep state with regards to the nature of the relations with indian and afghanistan. I blame it to the leftist trash advisers like pervez rasheed spoiling the mind of NS, he should immediately get rid of this old leftist PPP turn coat if he wants to have good relations with the army and wants to run a smooth government. In the same way lefitst ppp turn coat in punjab like rana sanaullah should also be sidelined who have caused the problem of model town firing incident.

I reached to the same conclusions in a thread started by me few days ago but unfortunately that thread did not catch the attention of the members here since serious informative discussion is kind of tabbo on the this forum.

Is Left leaning politics of Nawaz Sharif the reason for current political crisis
 
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Whats more cunning is that such threads are quietly "allowed" to die down. This is Pakistan Defence after all :) Military will rather afford a break up of country rather than ceding what it has unrightfully claimed. They have lost half of the country due to this attitude, almost lost 25% of the rest when BB was martyred. Put 50% on stake as Baloch were almost out but never learn....They can always use anyone, hire anyone to serve their purpose. I wish someday Pakistan truly becomes Islamic Republic of Pakistan than Army Republic of Pakistan....
 
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Whats more cunning is that such threads are quietly "allowed" to die down. This is Pakistan Defence after all :) Military will rather afford a break up of country rather than ceding what it has unrightfully claimed. They have lost half of the country due to this attitude, almost lost 25% of the rest when BB was martyred. Put 50% on stake as Baloch were almost out but never learn....They can always use anyone, hire anyone to serve their purpose. I wish someday Pakistan truly becomes Islamic Republic of Pakistan than Army Republic of Pakistan....

That b**** was not martyred in the light of any religious interpretation.
 
That b**** was not martyred in the light of any religious interpretation.
If 50000 killed by Talibans are Shaheeds then what makes you say so when she was too shot by a Talib.

Military is a reality in Pakistan and will remain so for at least few more years. Nothing wrong with NS concentrating on domestic issues and making Pakistan prosper some. I hope NS is really the changed person as the last para in the OP mentions.
Dude its been 66 years and this thing is yet to happen....If some generals can bring diplomatic embarrassment to the nation, cause around 500+ Billion worth of Loss to the economy and hold the country hostage just to play their power game than where stands the claim of patriotism?
 
ok so its like a semi coup.....

seriously.....is that it :(


please take it over completely !!!!!!!!!! i've had enough of politics and influence !!!!!!!!
 
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ISLAMABAD: Besieged Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has been assured by military that there will be no coup, but in return he must “share space with the army”, according to a government source who was privy to recent talks between the two sides.

Last week, as tens of thousands of protesters advanced on the federal capital to demand his resignation, Sharif dispatched two emissaries to consult with the army chief.

He wanted to know if the military was quietly engineering the twin protest movements by cricket star-turned-politician Imran Khan and activist cleric Tahirul Qadri, or if, perhaps, it was preparing to stage a coup.

According to a government insider with a first-hand account of the meeting, Sharif's envoys returned with good news and bad: there will be no coup but if he wants his government to survive, from now on it will have to share space with the army.

The army's media wing declined to comment.

Thousands of protesters marched to parliament on Tuesday, using a crane and bolt cutters to force their way past barricades of shipping containers, as riot police and paramilitaries watched on after being told not to intervene.

Military spokesman General Asim Bajwa tweeted a reminder to protesters to respect government institutions and called for a “meaningful dialogue” to resolve the crisis.

Even if, as seems likely, the Khan and Qadri protests eventually fizzle out due to a lack of overt support from the military, the prime minister will emerge weakened from political crisis.

Sharif may have to be subservient to the generals on issues he wanted to handle himself — from the fight against Taliban to relations with India and Pakistan's role in neighbouring, post-Nato Afghanistan.

“The biggest loser will be Nawaz, cut down to size both by puny political rivals and the powerful army,” said a government minister who asked not to be named.

“From this moment on, he'll always be looking over his shoulder.”

A year ago, few would have predicted that Sharif would be in such trouble: back then, he had just swept to power for a third time in a milestone poll that marked the first transition from one elected government to another.

But in the months that followed, Sharif — who had crossed swords with the army in the past — moved to enhance the clout of the civilian government in a country that has been ruled by the military for more than half of its history.

He irked the generals by putting former military head Pervez Musharraf, who had ended Sharif's last stint as prime minister in a 1999 coup, on trial for treason.

Sharif is also said to have opposed a military offensive to crush Taliban insurgents and sought reconciliation with India.

India rapprochement at risk

Sources in Sharif's government said that with civilian-military relations in such bad shape, Sharif suspected that the street protests to unseat him were being manipulated from behind the scenes by the army.

He also feared that if the agitations turned violent, the army would exploit the situation to seize power for itself.

However, the two close aides who went to see army chief Raheel Sharif in the garrison town of Rawalpindi last Wednesday were told that the military had no intention of intervening.

“The military does not intend to carry out a coup but ... if the government wants to get through its many problems and the four remaining years of its term, it has to share space with the army,” said the insider, summing up the message they were given.

“Sharing space” is a familiar euphemism for civilian governments focusing narrowly on domestic political affairs and leaving security and strategic policy to the army.

The fact that the military is back in the driving seat will make it harder for Sharif to deliver the rapprochement with India that he promised when he won the election last year.

Indian media speculated this week that Sharif had already been forced by the generals to scuttle peace talks.

New Delhi on Monday called off a meeting between foreign ministry officials of the two countries, which had been set to take place on Aug 25, because Pakistan announced its intention to consult Kashmiri separatists ahead of the meeting.

The Himalayan region of Kashmir has been a bone of contention between India and Pakistan since both gained independence in 1947. The two nations have fought three wars, two of them over Kashmir, and came close to a fourth in 2001.

The Pakistani army's predominance could also mean it could torpedo the government's relationship with Afghanistan, where a regional jostle for influence is expected to intensify after the withdrawal of most foreign forces at the end of this year.

Paying the price

Few believed that the army would back Khan's bid for power even if it used him to put Sharif on the defensive.

“Even the army knows that Imran Khan may be a great pressure cooker in the kitchen, but you can't trust him to be the chef,” said a former intelligence chief who declined to be named.

Sharif may now pay the price for miscalculating that the military may have been willing to let the one-time cricket hero topple him.

“Thinking that Imran could be a game-changer, Nawaz has conceded the maximum to the army,” a Sharif aide said.

“From a czar-like prime minister, they (the army) have reduced him to a deputy commissioner-type character who will deal with the day-to-day running of the country while they take care of the important stuff like Afghanistan and India. This is not a small loss.”

But Sharif's aides say a stint in jail under Musharraf, followed by exile from Pakistan and five years as leader of the opposition party, have made him realise that he needs to share power to survive.

“This is not the old Nawaz, the wild confrontationalist,” said an adviser to the prime minister in Lahore, the capital of his Punjab province power base.

“This is the new Nawaz who has learnt the hard way that politics is about living to fight another day.”



‘From czar-like prime minister to deputy commissioner-type character’ - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

Nice to see Pakistani Army is giving time to democracy
 
WONDERFUL LOGIC

PTI DOES NOT have the authority to ask resignation as they are few thousands in number.

But corrupt JERNAILS have the authority to intervene. Only few in numbers.

Real revolution will come when Unkale Raheel aka potential scammer will take care of internal corruption. Expose Zarar, Gwadar land scam, Komando jernails responsible of 50,000 + dead, Jihad making jernails and so on.

Patriotic Generals - Lets intervene and solve this FIRST.

I will make sure my upcoming son becomes a motherland jernail. I will be rich $$$$$
 
If 50000 killed by Talibans are Shaheeds then what makes you say so when she was too shot by a Talib.

Stop kidding with yourself.
Did the Taliban have anything to gain from it? NOPE
Musharraf? NOPE
Military? NOPE
Pakistani public? NOPE
Mr 10%? YES

Pretty obvious who the real killer of bloodsucker benazir was
 
Stop kidding with yourself.
Did the Taliban have anything to gain from it? NOPE
Musharraf? NOPE
Military? NOPE
Pakistani public? NOPE
Mr 10%? YES

Pretty obvious who the real killer of bloodsucker benazir was

Pakistani generals come winning in every episode. There is a reason they are at the PM house.

They know if PM house goes down - Next will be GHQ. Because if the politicians go in the jail -

Things will start rolling
Names start flowing

Ex and current corrupt jernails are saving their throne. The day Pakistani people understand this power game - It will be a new day. Pakistain current and ex jernails will never want a true revolution in Pakistan. They are a mafia. Just like any mafia - They won't give up control easily.
 

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