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Navy will induct 100 plus new helicopters for surveillance

The Indian Navy will soon have additional surveillance helicopters with enhanced capabilities, for which the tenders will be sent to potential vendors very soon. American Lockheed Martin will submit its proposal for this new bid, while it pulled out of an older similar one. The surveillance role is currently being fulfilled by the existing Seaking helicopters of 1980s vintage, in service in the Indian Navy, which are old and need to be replaced, for which already 16 multi-role helicopters are going to be finalised soon by the Ministry of Defence (MoD). In addition to these 16 new helicopters, one more tender for about 75-100 helicopters will also be floated. It was for the 16 multi-role helicopter deal that Lockheed Martin pulled out as the deal was not under Foreign Military Sale (FMS), and was an open tender. The helicopters will be used in limited intelligence gathering, rescue and search casualty evacuation and surveillance roles.

For the 16 mutil-role helicopters originally there were four contenders namely Eurocopter EC725, the NH90 by the NH Industries, America's Sikorsky's S-70B and Lockheed Martin's integrated MH- 60R. Out of these two have been down-selected — the NH90 by the NH Industries, America's Sikorsky's S-70B, of which one will soon be shortlisted for price negotiations, for the deal worth $1 billion approximately.

In a similar category but with enhanced anti-submarine warfare capabilities the more than 75 new helicopters will also come as a replacement for the aging Westland Sea Kings, in a deal worth more than $2 billion, with some to be bought, while some to be made by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), under license. The Navy had asked for information from potential vendors for this separate second tender.

Sources told this newspaper that the new deal for the more than 75 helicopters will also be an open tender, but Lockheed Martin proposes to bid for this deal with its MH-60R and MH-60S, the air-frame of which will be similar to the Sikorsky's S-70B helicopter. Old Sea Kings are also to be upgraded.

The MoD's Defence Acquisition Council (DAC) had also cleared the purchase of 56 naval light utility helicopters to replace the existing Chetaks in service, in a deal worth Rs 7000 cr, the tender for which was sent out last year. These light utility helicopters will be twin-engined of modern airframe design and fully integrated advanced avionics to replace the aging fleet of Chetak helicopters, which were inducted about 30-35 years ago. Being able to operate both during day and night, the helicopters will also have the capability to operate in adverse weather conditions, both from shore and off-shore and from small and larger decks, like that of an aircraft carrier.

Navy will float tenders for new copters
 
Normally I am pretty god at understanding such deals and pricing but I cannot quite get my head around $1BN for 16 helos and $2BN for 75! Yes Economies of scale will play a part but to this extent? And I am still at a loss to understand why the IN is going for 2 seperate tenders when competing helos are almost identical and the remit VERY similar.There's got to be a reason but I am struggling to come up with one on my own.



+ anyway a good artice to outline what is going on wrt rotary wing of IN. We can expect to see close to 200 helos within the next decade for IN then.
 
The numbers are wrong. Last I heard it was $4 billion for the 75. S-70B should win the first tender and should then be the front runner for the 2nd. The S-70B can do anything the 60R & 60S can do and do it better. The NH-90 just isn't there yet. Lockheed & the USN, will push the 60R & 60S, Sikorsky should offer the S-70B. Sikorsky just makes the 60R & 60S airframes, Lockheed stuffs it with avionics & mission equipment. For the S-70B, Sikorsky does the whole package, and does it very well!
 
The numbers are wrong. Last I heard it was $4 billion for the 75. S-70B should win the first tender and should then be the front runner for the 2nd. The S-70B can do anything the 60R & 60S can do and do it better. The NH-90 just isn't there yet. Lockheed & the USN, will push the 60R & 60S, Sikorsky should offer the S-70B. Sikorsky just makes the 60R & 60S airframes, Lockheed stuffs it with avionics & mission equipment. For the S-70B, Sikorsky does the whole package, and does it very well!

Ah, Mr Rikbo how are you? Good to hear from you again regarding this topic.


Would you happen to know whether the S-70B/MH-60R can be fitted with an AAR probe? As there is a seperate tender for the IN for SOF support helos replacing the dedicated SOF-support Sea Kings currently in service.
 
Does anyone else get the feeling that the navy has floated more tenders for helis than the number of helis it has?
Of course- it is looking to add to rotary wing not just replace exisiting assets. Just as surface fleet is increasing at a rapid rate they need helos to operate off them.
 
Lets just total the Number

16 surveilance/ASW Helis + 75 MRH + 56 LUH
Thats 147 Helis
Now considering the fact that timeline for induction is likely to be 2O15-24
So they are looking to replace most of the present fleet of 120+ Helis
infact Barring 9 Ka31 AEW Helis and 8 Dhruv SAR helis , Rest of the fleet should be replaced by these 147 Helis
 
Does anyone else get the feeling that the navy has floated more tenders for helis than the number of helis it has?

Absolutely, this doesn't make sense, floating a tender for 16 copters first & than again floating another for 75+ more of same category, obviously, the best contender for the second tender will be the winner of first, just purchase them directly, why float another time consuming tender.
 
I believe this first buy may be somewhat of a risk reduction activity to insure the Indian navy is satisfied before they go with the "big buy". Not sure if there are any differences in the RFPs that were released. But the S-70B can be configured to for most of the missions I can think of: ASW, ASuW, SAR, Vert Rep, Recon. 60S can do some things such as anti-mine and is being fitted with the new, laser guided Hydras (2.75 inch rocket) but the S-70B could add these systems as well.

Special Ops Blackhawks have been fitted with refueling probes. Not sure I have seen it on a maritime aircraft but if the Blackhawks can take it I would expect the Seahawks could too.
 

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