Nasheed snubs China: ‘India, Maldives ties over 2,000 years’

[CriticalThinker02]

Maldives gets all its fresh vegetables and meat from India on daily basis.
This island nation is dependent on India.

There is reason for everything.

Plus they would need someone to take their people when their Island eventually submerges but I don't think India can afford to give land.

 

[Jlaw]

Published August 26, 2017
SOURCE: ENS

Former Maldives President Mohamed Nasheed on Friday said it was wrong for China to expect that the Maldives would take its side and said India’s relations with the island nation is 2,000-3,000 years old. Nasheed, who is in Delhi for an international conference, said India does not conduct diplomacy like western countries and is “very sophisticated”. He explained his country’s relations with India and China in this way.

“We (India and Maldives) have been together for 2,000-3,000 years…. Someone can’t splash some money and ask me to go to bed.” He was responding to questions on China wooing Maldives with projects worth billions of dollars through its Belt and Road Initiative at an interaction organised by Brookings India in Delhi.

Nasheed is in India to participate in a seminar on South-South cooperation by the Research and Information System for Developing Countries, an autonomous think tank of the Ministry of External Affairs. His presence in Delhi comes at a time when the Maldives government led by President Abdulla Yameen, Nasheed’s arch rival, is on the back foot in Parliament. The Opposition, led by Nasheed’s party, is trying to bring a no-confidence vote against Yameen’s key supporter, Speaker Abdulla Maseeh Mohamed.

Nasheed added that he has been allowed here, despite being a “convict”. “Our relationship with India is not based on our fortunes, but for the good of people of Maldives and security of the Indian Ocean.” “India is the world’s biggest democracy and it is difficult to see it remaining quiet or idle (about the developments in the Maldives)…. We have high expectations from India, and I believe India will deliver. In fact, it is delivering,” Nasheed said. “Indian diplomacy is not rolled out like western diplomacy,” he said, adding that New Delhi doesn’t act the way other countries act.

“(Jawaharlal) Nehru did not build a state to bully people. India doesn’t jump or react. They maintain a sophisticated response,” he said. On which side is Maldives going to take as both China and India jockey for influence, he said, “We have taken a side long ago. Foreign policy for me is very simple… Find a friend, be good to a friend…”

Former Maldives President Mohamed Nasheed on Friday said it was wrong for China to expect that the Maldives would take its side and said India’s relations with the island nation is 2,000-3,000 years old. Nasheed, who is in Delhi for an international conference, said India does not conduct diplomacy like western countries and is “very sophisticated”. He explained his country’s relations with India and China in this way. “We (India and Maldives) have been together for 2,000-3,000 years…. Someone can’t splash some money and ask me to go to bed.” He was responding to questions on China wooing Maldives with projects worth billions of dollars through its Belt and Road Initiative at an interaction organised by Brookings India in Delhi.

Nasheed is in India to participate in a seminar on South-South cooperation by the Research and Information System for Developing Countries, an autonomous think tank of the Ministry of External Affairs. His presence in Delhi comes at a time when the Maldives government led by President Abdulla Yameen, Nasheed’s arch rival, is on the back foot in Parliament. The Opposition, led by Nasheed’s party, is trying to bring a no-confidence vote against Yameen’s key supporter, Speaker Abdulla Maseeh Mohamed.

Nasheed added that he has been allowed here, despite being a “convict”. “Our relationship with India is not based on our fortunes, but for the good of people of Maldives and security of the Indian Ocean.” “India is the world’s biggest democracy and it is difficult to see it remaining quiet or idle (about the developments in the Maldives)…. We have high expectations from India, and I believe India will deliver. In fact, it is delivering,” Nasheed said. “Indian diplomacy is not rolled out like western diplomacy,” he said, adding that New Delhi doesn’t act the way other countries act.

“(Jawaharlal) Nehru did not build a state to bully people. India doesn’t jump or react. They maintain a sophisticated response,” he said. On which side is Maldives going to take as both China and India jockey for influence, he said, “We have taken a side long ago. Foreign policy for me is very simple… Find a friend, be good to a friend…”
http://idrw.org/nasheed-snubs-china-india-maldives-ties-over-2000-years/#more-145660

Maldives going to be under water in 100 years.

 

[salimpheku]

Maldives going to be under water in 100 years.

Only extremely sick people and maniacs are happy with that prospect.

 

[Figaro]

Who really cares about Maldives turning towards India? The fact that much more significant countries (traditionally India's allies) such as Sri Lanka, Nepal, and Bhutan are turning away from India really says something from India's failed foreign policy ...

 

[salimpheku]

Who really cares about Maldives turning towards India? The fact that much more significant countries (traditionally India's allies) such as Sri Lanka, Nepal, and Bhutan are turning away from India really says something from India's failed foreign policy ...

Yeah, that's exactly what's happening.
SL - they just realized the fraud China committed one them and are fixed on showing you your place.
Nepal - Their PM just signed multiple treaties with India. And the statement Nepal PM made is a slap on China's face
Bhutan - They don't even LIKE to see your face much less talk with you.
BD - China just threatened to release River waters to drown India. Worse than India it will be BD that will be more screwed. Great going dumbos.

Oh yeah, great achievements of China alright.

Wait Wait, isn't Xi standing naked in front of the world?

 

[Figaro]

Yeah, that's exactly what's happening.
SL - they just realized the fraud China committed one them and are fixed on showing you your place.
Nepal - Their PM just signed multiple treaties with India. And the statement Nepal PM made is a slap on China's face
Bhutan - They don't even LIKE to see your face much less talk with you.
BD - China just threatened to release River waters to drown India. Worse than India it will be BD that will be more screwed. Great going dumbos.

Oh yeah, great achievements of China alright.

Wait Wait, isn't Xi standing naked in front of the world?

But you're just pointing out isolated cases. Ever since India's selfish blockade of Nepal in 2015, the latter has tilted towards China and encouraged Chinese investment for fear of Indian economic dominance. And China is still working out a debt solution with Sri Lanka; SL has not defaulted yet and probably will not. Regarding Bhutan, it is pathetically obvious that Bhutanese are much more scared of an Indian occupation than a Chinese one ... why don't you actually read a Bhutanese publication instead of getting info from Bollywood? As for Bangladesh, if relations were "so bad", then why would Bangladesh purchase military equipment from China . India is all alone geopolitically; the US does not want to be involved in India's countless foreign tirade and its closest allies are slipping away from its orbit one by one ... I guess they no longer want to be an Indian protectorate? Modi has his back against the wall and if he doesn't fix it soon, India will continue to lose allies to the likes of China and Pakistan.

 

[salimpheku]

But you're just pointing out isolated cases. Ever since India's selfish blockade of Nepal in 2015, the latter has tilted towards China and encouraged Chinese investment for fear of Indian economic dominance. And China is still working out a debt solution with Sri Lanka; SL has not defaulted yet and probably will not. Regarding Bhutan, it is pathetically obvious that Bhutanese are much more scared of an Indian occupation than a Chinese one ... why don't you actually read a Bhutanese publication instead of getting info from Bollywood? As for Bangladesh, if relations were "so bad", then why would Bangladesh purchase military equipment from China . India is all alone geopolitically; the US does not want to be involved in India's countless foreign tirade and its closest allies are slipping away from its orbit one by one ... I guess they no longer want to be an Indian protectorate? Modi has his back against the wall and if he doesn't fix it soon, India will continue to lose allies to the likes of China and Pakistan.

What matters at the end are the results on the ground.
Has any of those countries tilted towards China? No

So, not sure how you post stating the opposite is correct. Bhutan is not some child to be afraid of India. If they were afraid, they would have opened up to a much powerful China, which shares a larger border with it than India does. That Bhutan chose to side with a relatively less powerful India than China shows who it is scared off.

SL as you said has not defaulted but they have learnt a very valuable lesson. Only the blind can not see the obvious staring them in their face.

Nepal - Read the statements made by their PM couple of days back. I have no idea why Chinese think they know what these countries need more than these countries people! Is there something wrong with Communists?

BD buys a lot of equipment from a lot of countries and so does India, That has little reflection on geo-politics. You thin BD will ever allow or help you militarily against India EVER? Do you even know the relationship between BD and India? We have settled all our outstanding disputes peacefully. BD knows who will screw them and who will help them when in need. Lastly, your pathetic attempts at water wars have not been lost on BD. You do anything with water, the worst affected would be BD and not India.

India has border disputes with 2 countries. One is Pakistan and another China.
Do you know how many countries China has disputes with? There is not one country that would help you in case of a war with India. Not even Pakistan. In fact you start a war with India, I can assure you all the SCS countries will screw China over multiple times. They are just waiting for an opening to show China it's place.

China is a typical bully and all the countries are just waiting for the correct moment & India has just provided them that.
In Diplomatic circles, all countries are extremely happy India stripping Xi.

 

[Figaro]

What matters at the end are the results on the ground.
Has any of those countries tilted towards China? No

So, not sure how you post stating the opposite is correct. Bhutan is not some child to be afraid of India. If they were afraid, they would have opened up to a much powerful China, which shares a larger border with it than India does. That Bhutan chose to side with a relatively less powerful India than China shows who it is scared off.

SL as you said has not defaulted but they have learnt a very valuable lesson. Only the blind can not see the obvious staring them in their face.

Nepal - Read the statements made by their PM couple of days back. I have no idea why Chinese think they know what these countries need more than these countries people! Is there something wrong with Communists?

BD buys a lot of equipment from a lot of countries and so does India, That has little reflection on geo-politics. You thin BD will ever allow or help you militarily against India EVER? Do you even know the relationship between BD and India? We have settled all our outstanding disputes peacefully. BD knows who will screw them and who will help them when in need. Lastly, your pathetic attempts at water wars have not been lost on BD. You do anything with water, the worst affected would be BD and not India.

India has border disputes with 2 countries. One is Pakistan and another China.
Do you know how many countries China has disputes with? There is not one country that would help you in case of a war with India. Not even Pakistan. In fact you start a war with India, I can assure you all the SCS countries will screw China over multiple times. They are just waiting for an opening to show China it's place.

China is a typical bully and all the countries are just waiting for the correct moment & India has just provided them that.
In Diplomatic circles, all countries are extremely happy India stripping Xi.

Yes. China the bully is eating India's lunch.

 

[salimpheku]

Yes. China the bully is eating India's lunch.

It is definitely trying only for India spanking the bully.
Sadly and predictably China is reacting like a bully after the bully has been firmly put in it's place.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

But you're just pointing out isolated cases. Ever since India's selfish blockade of Nepal in 2015, the latter has tilted towards China and encouraged Chinese investment for fear of Indian economic dominance. And China is still working out a debt solution with Sri Lanka; SL has not defaulted yet and probably will not. Regarding Bhutan, it is pathetically obvious that Bhutanese are much more scared of an Indian occupation than a Chinese one ... why don't you actually read a Bhutanese publication instead of getting info from Bollywood? As for Bangladesh, if relations were "so bad", then why would Bangladesh purchase military equipment from China . India is all alone geopolitically; the US does not want to be involved in India's countless foreign tirade and its closest allies are slipping away from its orbit one by one ... I guess they no longer want to be an Indian protectorate? Modi has his back against the wall and if he doesn't fix it soon, India will continue to lose allies to the likes of China and Pakistan.

Some of you and especially Chinese idiots falsely assume if we give them 50B$ (yea China has billions of dollars sitting unused) any country would bow to us. What they dont realise is all country wont be Pakistan.

Nepal have ideological relations with us. They are Hindu and guess what? 35% of the people in Southern Terai regions are basically Indians (they have lots of relations in Indian region). The Northern Mountain regions do not give proper rights to Southern regions and hence the issues. However money China may splurge Nepal needs to respect the wishes of its own citizens first over some foreign money. And that's the umbilical cord relations we have with Nepal, Sri Lanka etc etc

Maldives depend on India for almost everything. Hell we have linked their islands chains with Coastal radar set up operated by IN. Maldives have 5 lakh population and if they need a new home, Nasheed realises India is a perfect home culturally, economically, geographically etc etc It would be odd if they establish a new home in China....

This is the attitude of the Chinese. We will give them money and they will dance to their tunes. Just like Chinese neighbours hate China, they have some grouse against India which we are dealing emotionally. No matter how money u spend a brother is always a brother.

 

[Majet Raha]

You mean ties with Mughal Empire? Because there was no India 2000 years ago.
Wait, how old is current Maldives btw?

pakistan was formed from 1947 and you talk about India's existence?

 

[I S I]

pakistan was formed from 1947 and you talk about India's existence?

When did i say that Pak existed before 1947

 

[Tshering22]

Well said.

You mean ties with Mughal Empire? Because there was no India 2000 years ago.

Wait, how old is current Maldives btw?

There was no Islam either 2,000 years ago, forget the Mughal empire.

But these guys then were island traders and had contacts with our kingdoms, including your present port cities.

 

[I S I]

There was no Islam either 2,000 years ago, forget the Mughal empire.

Bwahahahahahaha
I think enndians brain still doesn't exist just like in 100 BC.

 

[Tshering22]

1 - If someone starts offering money way more than the size of a country's economy, there are always vested interests. Foreign policy experts in different countries know this.

While Pakistan might be interested in aligning their economy 100% with you similar to the way Cambodia has in ASEAN, not everyone opts for this. During cold war, many newly independent Asian countries had to do the same thing with USSR and there were a lot of issues.

No one wants to do that all over again by putting all eggs in one basket.

2 - In a region dominated by two major countries, the smaller entities play off one against the other to reap benefits. They will always be neutral no matter how hostile relations turn - that's call balancing off.

3 - Despite the kind of hostility shown here on PDF by some members of BD, SL and any other adjoining regional country, the reality has always been different. Even their so-called nationalist and "anti-India" regimes have preferred to remain neutral at worst.

4 - China tends to measure things in terms of only money. While it is an important component, it isn't everything. There are many other things that play a significant role in any country's policies vis-a-vis the region. Which is exactly why despite open hostilities, India and Pakistan continue to have relations and even trade.