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Hi,

An APOLOGY would have been better---.

Nothing I have said about this matter merits one. My comments have been perfectly forthright and justified, now and previously:

The program remains an important step forward for Pakistan's domestic defense capabilities, but certainly not the giant leap as much as is proclaimed, specially here on PDF.

What is more, I am happy to acknowledge its export successes as well for what they are, as I previously promised @Arsalan , fairly, given my initial reluctance about its prospects in the international market.
 
Nothing I have said about this matter merits one. My comments have been perfectly forthright and justified, now and previously:

The program remains an important step forward for Pakistan's domestic defense capabilities, but certainly not the giant leap as much as is proclaimed, specially here on PDF.

What is more, I am happy to acknowledge its export successes as well for what they are, as I previously promised @Arsalan , fairly, given my initial reluctance about its prospects in the international market.

Hi,

" your reluctance and prospects " was as worthless an analysis as it could be---which you obviously know by now.
 
I am only too happy to acknowledge your tag, as promised. Every time China sells the FC-1 to one of its client states, we will all be overjoyed to celebrate, as I previously accepted to do.
:lol:
So you still are not happy!!
Well, i was not trying to make you happy or piss you off anyway!! All i planned to do was to bring it into your notice that the first planes have been delivered! Will do it again one those production plants in Pakistan start making out automobiles! You were very sure that it is also not going to happen.

Sir, the idea is not to make you look bad or to make you feel sorry but only to share that sometimes, there is no harm is being a bit positive even about the things one hate the most. :)
Anyway, your life your decision. I for one am happy with this news. To me, it brings good name, money and respect. That is all great!

u r expecting too much ..... read again
:lol: Well, i was not looking for a certificate anyway. Nor should you!!
It is what it is. No need to change it and nor will it change anything.

The JF-17 export potential was always there, the new about the initial deals was always true. There were people who never believed in it, it didn't changed anything!! The first planes have been delivered to a customer. There will be more to come. End of story.
 
Hi,

" your reluctance and prospects " was as worthless an analysis as it could be---which you obviously know by now.

I will be sure to give your comment the value it deserves, coming as it does from that well-known paragon of integrity and intellect called a used car salesman. :D

:lol:
So you still are not happy!!
Well, i was not trying to make you happy or piss you off anyway!! All i planned to do was to bring it into your notice that the first planes have been delivered! Will do it again one those production plants in Pakistan start making out automobiles! You were very sure that it is also not going to happen.

Sir, the idea is not to make you look bad or to make you feel sorry but only to share that sometimes, there is no harm is being a bit positive even about the things one hate the most. :)
Anyway, your life your decision. I for one am happy with this news. To me, it brings good name, money and respect. That is all great!


:lol: Well, i was not looking for a certificate anyway. Nor should you!!
It is what it is. No need to change it and nor will it change anything.

The JF-17 export potential was always there, the new about the initial deals was always true. There were people who never believed in it, it didn't changed anything!! The first planes have been delivered to a customer. There will be more to come. End of story.

Oh I am happy for this sales success, to make it clear. I will still maintain that it will be an uphill struggle, but then that is true of any new entrant in the market. I suppose that makes every sales, no matter how small, that much sweeter.
 
True to your word Sir!
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Hardly.

True to himself, though; just petty and insignificant posts trying to masquerade as anything but.

Every time China sells the FC-1 to one of its client states, we will all be overjoyed to celebrate, as I previously accepted to do.
 
. Nor should you!!
I was not expecting anything nor I was changing or trying to give any new angle to your attempt .... I was just correcting Mastan shaib who was expecting too much form a frivolous member by highlighting his mentality .....

میں گفتگو کے ہر انداز کو سمجھتا ہوں
کہ میری ذات میں لہجہ شناس رہتا ہے
 
Hi,

It did hurt---now didn't it---. Cracks appearing in V-Cheng's armor---!!!!

LOL. I have no need for armor Sir. I am what I say I am, and I say what I think, honestly and fairly. And you, of course, are what I just said you are, too. :D


This is Vcheng. Com8ng from him it is accolade of the highest order. Do you know how it must have hurt:p::woot:;). But Vcheng promised it and then delivered.

No hurt here Sir. I previously am on record saying that I would be happy to be proven wrong. Only egos fail to admit such things, and I do not have one, nor any armor either.

Once again, I wish the program every success, and I will still say it will be a tough fight to more successes, but if and when they occur, I still will be happy to acknowledge them. Fair enough?

Hardly.

True to himself, though; just petty and insignificant posts trying to masquerade as anything but.

Please read the above. :D
 
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LOL. I have no need for armor Sir. I am what I say I am, and I say what I think, honestly and fairly. And you, of course, are what I just said you are, too. :D

Hi,

The way you addressed me showed that you are a pathetic and a disgusting person---. So---stop this charade of being righteous---.
 
On topic, may be the next time I will congratulate the program, once again, will be when Nigeria receives its jets? I will request @Arsalan to give me a shout out once again. :D

The international defense market will never be easy for any player, and hence I will continue to maintain my honest and healthy reluctance.
 
:lol:
So you still are not happy!!
Well, i was not trying to make you happy or piss you off anyway!! All i planned to do was to bring it into your notice that the first planes have been delivered! Will do it again one those production plants in Pakistan start making out automobiles! You were very sure that it is also not going to happen.

Sir, the idea is not to make you look bad or to make you feel sorry but only to share that sometimes, there is no harm is being a bit positive even about the things one hate the most. :)
Anyway, your life your decision. I for one am happy with this news. To me, it brings good name, money and respect. That is all great!


:lol: Well, i was not looking for a certificate anyway. Nor should you!!
It is what it is. No need to change it and nor will it change anything.

The JF-17 export potential was always there, the new about the initial deals was always true. There were people who never believed in it, it didn't changed anything!! The first planes have been delivered to a customer. There will be more to come. End of story.
Seeing, hearing, reading, verifying, reasoning etc. are never equated to believing...
 
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