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By ET Bureau | 11 Jun, 2015, 12.16PM IST
Myanmar operations: Get global outreach, train units like US Navy Seals - The Economic Times
By Sreeram Chaulia

On June 9, in the jungles of Myanmar's Sagaing region, India sent a subcontinental-size message through a military operation by its Special Forces. Parachute-borne Army commandos surreptitiously landed and ambushed terrorists from the National Socialist Council of Nagaland (Khaplang faction) and the Kanglei Yawol Kanna Lup of Manipur, who were sheltering deep inside Myanmar.

The level of sophistication of this foreign mission conveys that India's capacity to deter enemies is growing. Terrorists who shelter outside India's boundaries brim with confidence that we cannot pursue them outside our sovereign space. But information and broadcasting minister Rajyavardhan Rathore asserted that rebels will be compelled to rethink as India "will choose the time and the place of hitting them".

The Sagaing operation was preemptive and covert in nature. But it has been widely publicised ex post facto to score psychological points with anti-India elements that exploit governmental failure in our peripheral regions. Military raids cannot, of course, solve the misgovernment and accompanying socioeconomic grievances of local people. But they do convey that India is not a soft state that will passively absorb body blows like the recent killings of our soldiers in Manipur, Arunachal Pradesh and Nagaland.

Governmental weakness is a core problem in India's northeast, where many tribes are alienated from the mainstream. But this lacuna is being compounded by opportunistic terrorist leaders like SS Khaplang who, old and ailing, is seeking to revive Chinese support for a unified umbrella guerrilla force to challenge India's territorial integrity. To such elements, the government is laying down the law that they cannot endlessly exploit civilians and spoil peace negotiations.And that China will not be allowed to rekindle its old patronage system for secessionist movements.


Rathore's combative comments about attacks on Indians anywhere - be it Iraq, Yemen or in our neighbourhood - being "unacceptable" raise questions about whether we actually have the capability to exercise the option of commando action against terrorists, say, in Azad Kashmir (Azad Kashmir) or against the Islamic State (ISIS), which kidnapped dozens of Indian citizens last year in Mosu ..

Israelis and Americans can tell that there are a number of preconditions for pulling off sensational 'hot pursuit' assignments. First, intelligence must be precise as to the location, inmates and conditions of the targeted terrorist camps. In Myanmar, the Indian Army regularly intercepted radio communications of terrorists and also had conducted unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) recces prior to the operation. As local tribes often cross the porous international border between our northeastern states and Myanmar, human inputs about the movements and intentions of the terrorists were also obtained and cross-checked against technical intelligence.

Second, the host government's attitude plays a central role. It helped India's cause that the Myanmarese military is not fully in control in Sagaing and, in some cases, colludes with northeast insurgents. Special Forces can be effective when there is a security vacuum and regular militaries are out of sight. Since there has been no outcry from Myanmar after the Indian operation, it is obvious that New Delhi did its diplomatic homework and secured permission from Naypyidaw to operate within specified geographical and temporal limits.

Can we get deep intelligence about cross-border terrorists and also gain tacit political coordination from the host government when it comes to dismantling jihadist camps in Azad Kashmir? The former is achievable but the latter is a nonstarter. As far as Iraq goes, we have linguistic handicaps and also far less ethnographic knowledge of what is happening on the ground in ISIS-controlled zones.

If the Modi government intends to prioritise preemption in its national security policy, we have to train far more advanced special units akin to as the American Navy SEALS that are deployable in multiple continents. It sounds like a fantasy that India cannot afford right now. But the covert strikes in Myanmar ought to spur us to go global in planning our security outreach.

(The writer is Dean, Jindal School of International Affairs)
 
who would attack a weak country like myanmar ??? and india feel proud ??? what a pitty
 
Indian Special Forces are best of the best. For the moment training is at per with Navy seals. Its just that our goal varries as our responsibility lies within sub continent itself.
 
Myanmar says operation on militants was on Indian side of border

Myanmar on Wednesday maintained that Indian forces had carried out an attack on insurgents inside India and that it would not tolerate rebel groups using its soil to attack neighbours.


By: AFP

Myanmar on Wednesday maintained that Indian forces had carried out an attack on insurgents inside India and that it would not tolerate rebel groups using its soil to attack neighbours.

In a Facebook post, Zaw Htay, director of Myanmar’s presidential office, said, “According to the information sent by Tatmadaw (Myanmar army) battalions on the ground, we have learned that the military operation was performed on the Indian side at India-Myanmar border.”

“Myanmar will not accept any foreigner who attacks neighbouring countries in the back and creates problems by using our own territory,” he added.

The official’s remarks came in the wake of statements by ministers in India that Special Forces of the army had carried out a surgical strike inside Myanmar to destroy two camps of insurgents hiding there.

Myanmar says operation on militants was on Indian side of border | The Indian Express

Hard to imagine similar operations on Pak soil: Experts

NEW DELHI: The Army strikes inside Myanmar territory have led to speculation that these are signs of things to come on India's western border with Pakistan. But, those in the security establishment and strategic experts warned that such pursuits against Islamabad are neither desirable nor possible.

What is possible, and in the thought process of the Modi government, is covert operations in the western neighbourhood. Sources say given India's hostile relationship with Pakistan, any open strike against an anti-India outfit within Pakistan would virtually be an attack on the establishment in Islamabad.

"You can't venture even half a km into Pakistan without risking engagement with its military. You can do it only if you're prepared to go to war," said a senior security establishment officer. The officer said the Tuesday strikes could take place because Myanmar isn't an enemy and has no stake in protecting an Indian insurgent group. "The only oblique pressure it may feel is from China which has been providing some support to these groups," the officer said.

Security experts said the newfound aggression on display would most likely translate into covert operations within Pakistan as a reply to trouble fomented by it in India.

Former RAW officer Jayant Umranikar said, "In relation to Pakistan, two statements need to be taken into account. Defence minister Manohar Parrikar recently said terrorists would be used to take out terrorists, while junior minister Rajyavardhan Rathore said we'll strike at the time and place of our choosing. The Myanmar strike should be read as a warning to Pakistan that we won't sit quietly if they trouble us. And our strike, albeit covert, may not be in a border area or on a specific terror camp alone."

Pakistan has already warned India of retaliation in the event of any Myanmarlike adventure on its territory. Others cautioned not to read too much into the Myanmar operations. "It's a good operation and a tactical success. But this is not the first time we've conducted a covert operation inside another country," said Ajai Sahni, executive director of The Institute for Conflict Management. "There are many examples - in Nepal, Bhutan, Myanmar and even Pakistan - which few know about. But these do not coalesce into a strategy. The goal is weakening of the enemy's strategic capability."

Sahni was surprised at the way information about the operation was freely shared. "Machismo is not the desirable end of policy," he said.

Indian Army claim false: NSCN(K)

NSCN(Khaplang) has denied Army's claims that it suffered high causalities in the June 9 strikes. The outfit has termed the reports of the attack as "completely false" and said they were efforts by the Army "to save their reputation". "The NSCN (K) camp was not attacked and the group did not suffer any casualties," the release added.

Hard to imagine similar operations on Pak soil: Experts - The Times of India
 
Myanmar says operation on militants was on Indian side of border

Myanmar on Wednesday maintained that Indian forces had carried out an attack on insurgents inside India and that it would not tolerate rebel groups using its soil to attack neighbours.


By: AFP

Myanmar on Wednesday maintained that Indian forces had carried out an attack on insurgents inside India and that it would not tolerate rebel groups using its soil to attack neighbours.

In a Facebook post, Zaw Htay, director of Myanmar’s presidential office, said, “According to the information sent by Tatmadaw (Myanmar army) battalions on the ground, we have learned that the military operation was performed on the Indian side at India-Myanmar border.”

“Myanmar will not accept any foreigner who attacks neighbouring countries in the back and creates problems by using our own territory,” he added.

The official’s remarks came in the wake of statements by ministers in India that Special Forces of the army had carried out a surgical strike inside Myanmar to destroy two camps of insurgents hiding there.

Myanmar says operation on militants was on Indian side of border | The Indian Express

Hard to imagine similar operations on Pak soil: Experts

NEW DELHI: The Army strikes inside Myanmar territory have led to speculation that these are signs of things to come on India's western border with Pakistan. But, those in the security establishment and strategic experts warned that such pursuits against Islamabad are neither desirable nor possible.

What is possible, and in the thought process of the Modi government, is covert operations in the western neighbourhood. Sources say given India's hostile relationship with Pakistan, any open strike against an anti-India outfit within Pakistan would virtually be an attack on the establishment in Islamabad.

"You can't venture even half a km into Pakistan without risking engagement with its military. You can do it only if you're prepared to go to war," said a senior security establishment officer. The officer said the Tuesday strikes could take place because Myanmar isn't an enemy and has no stake in protecting an Indian insurgent group. "The only oblique pressure it may feel is from China which has been providing some support to these groups," the officer said.

Security experts said the newfound aggression on display would most likely translate into covert operations within Pakistan as a reply to trouble fomented by it in India.

Former RAW officer Jayant Umranikar said, "In relation to Pakistan, two statements need to be taken into account. Defence minister Manohar Parrikar recently said terrorists would be used to take out terrorists, while junior minister Rajyavardhan Rathore said we'll strike at the time and place of our choosing. The Myanmar strike should be read as a warning to Pakistan that we won't sit quietly if they trouble us. And our strike, albeit covert, may not be in a border area or on a specific terror camp alone."

Pakistan has already warned India of retaliation in the event of any Myanmarlike adventure on its territory. Others cautioned not to read too much into the Myanmar operations. "It's a good operation and a tactical success. But this is not the first time we've conducted a covert operation inside another country," said Ajai Sahni, executive director of The Institute for Conflict Management. "There are many examples - in Nepal, Bhutan, Myanmar and even Pakistan - which few know about. But these do not coalesce into a strategy. The goal is weakening of the enemy's strategic capability."

Sahni was surprised at the way information about the operation was freely shared. "Machismo is not the desirable end of policy," he said.

Indian Army claim false: NSCN(K)

NSCN(Khaplang) has denied Army's claims that it suffered high causalities in the June 9 strikes. The outfit has termed the reports of the attack as "completely false" and said they were efforts by the Army "to save their reputation". "The NSCN (K) camp was not attacked and the group did not suffer any casualties," the release added.

Hard to imagine similar operations on Pak soil: Experts - The Times of India

Pakistan has a strong air defense cover. The terror camp in in Pakistan may not be as near as they were in Myanmar. SO any such operation in pakistan shall require much more preparation. Bombing terro camp in Pakistan shall be an easy alternate.

It is better to use Pakistan based terror group any work for some money.
 
Pakistan has a strong air defense cover. The terror camp in in Pakistan may not be as near as they were in Myanmar. SO any such operation in pakistan shall require much more preparation. Bombing terro camp in Pakistan shall be an easy alternate.

It is better to use Pakistan based terror group any work for some money.

Have you considered the consequences of any such attack. Not just military but economical also.

What shall happen to your stock market once the tension goes up and foreign companies start pulling out their money and manpower.

What targets shall Pakistan attack.
 
Have you considered the consequences of any such attack. Not just military but economical also.

What shall happen to your stock market once the tension goes up and foreign companies start pulling out their money and manpower.

What targets shall Pakistan attack.

Different enemy, different strategy. That is why I told that such attack on pakistan is unwarranted. We have other easy option to counter Pakistan.
 
As if india is not already doing the covert operations in Pakistan (read spreading cross-border terrorism). We know it, world knows it. Only indians on these PDF will keep burying their head in the sand.

As a matter of fact, india is the biggest sponsor of terrorism in the neighborhood. Even they know it, but they will keep denying. The cat is coming out of the bag with each passing day.

BTW, freedom fighters NSCN openly brushed aside the media hype and said they did not suffer heavy losses, only indian army is trying to save its reputation, :lol:
 
Different enemy, different strategy. That is why I told that such attack on pakistan is unwarranted. We have other easy option to counter Pakistan.

Just keep in mind we might have better options at our disposal.
 
Have you considered the consequences of any such attack. Not just military but economical also.

What shall happen to your stock market once the tension goes up and foreign companies start pulling out their money and manpower.

What targets shall Pakistan attack.

What international tensions when the people who attack your country are Pakistanis them selves.
You can't go around the world crying like a fool- we were attacked by India's Pakistani's
 
who would attack a weak country like myanmar ??? and india feel proud ??? what a pitty

Co-Op...Myanmar doesn't have hold in these regions...

They themselves are mounting attacks against various insurgent groups.
 
Pakistanis shit scared.

We all know how the USA abd Taliban regular crossings into Pakistan and killing Pakistan assets.

Without any issues.

Pakistanis ate dealing with Modi

He will call your bluff
 
who would attack a weak country like myanmar ??? and india feel proud ??? what a pitty
It is once again proved that Pakistanis feel terrorists are their own. Because in Pakistan, terrorists are Pakistan and Pakistan is terrorists.

We attacked terrorists in Myanmar, not Myanmar.
 
What international tensions when the people who attack your country are Pakistanis them selves.
You can't go around the world crying like a fool- we were attacked by India's Pakistani's

What I said did not penetrate your brains.
 

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