Myanmar Defence Forum

[MINN]

Myanmar will be participating in the AMAN naval exercise being held in Pakistan next month. Im not sure if we are sending ships or just going as observer.

 

[MINN]

Google Earth updated the satellite picture of the Thanlyin Naval Shipyard

 

[TharTharLay]

Google Earth updated the satellite picture of the Thanlyin Naval Shipyard
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Thank you very much.

 

[tarpitz]

Interesting.
400 meter long & 40000 tons is quite a large drydock.

Dry dock construction at the Myanmar Naval Dockyard
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Building of a new 400 metre long and 40000 tons capacity dry dock is spotted in the recently updated Google Earth application.

In 2019 China CAMC Engineering and Myanmar Navy signed USD 211 million-contract to expand the Myanmar Naval Dockyard.

According to the contract, CAMCE will build a dry dock with capacity 40,000 tons and supporting facilities at the MN Dockyard which is expected to be completed by 2025.

Currently, instead of the dry dock, MN Dockyard uses the synchro shiplift for ship building.

However the synchro shiplift has a number of limitations and it has the capacity of lifting only 7500 tons and 135 metre long ships.

And consequently Myanmar Navy could not build war ships larger than 135 metre or 7500 tons.

This becomes the main reason for the building of 135 metre frigate though MN wanted to built larger ones.

However after the completion of the new dry dock, Myanmar Navy will be able to build ships as large as 40000 tons.

Although the details of the dry dock are yet to emerge, by measuring the length in the Google Earth, it is estimated that the dry dock is 400 metre long and 150 metre wide.

Therefore after the completion of it, the dry dock will become one of the largest naval dry docks in the regional navies and Myanmar Navy will have the capacity to build 4 large frigates simultaneously.

China CAMCE to Build USD211 Million Expansion at Myanmar's Thilawa Shipyard

www.yicaiglobal.com

#MyanmarNavy

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https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=173295744581159&id=100132588564142

 

[MINN]

We can finally see the Thunder.

 

[TheEunch]

I would have liked to see them used against the drug armies, not our own people.

 

[farooqbhai007]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1355441932135227393

 

[MINN]

 

[X-ray Papa]

Lmao go worry about your coup.

 

[MINN]

In this video, we can see 2 Thunder MRAPs.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/laa59v

 

[MINN]

Have not seen these before

 

[Buddhistforlife]

Why are Bamars and other Buddhist groups against the army when the army protects the Bamars and other Buddhist groups.

If there is democracy in Myanmar, Bamars and other Buddhist groups will become minorities in the near future and will be dominated by Rohingyas and other non buddhist groups.

Democracy in Myanmar is a threat to Bamars and other Buddhist groups.

@Aung Zaya @tarpitz @Tagaung @MINN

 

[X-ray Papa]

Why are Bamars and other Buddhist groups against the army when the army protects the Bamars and other Buddhist groups.

If there is democracy in Myanmar, Bamars and other Buddhist groups will become minorities in the near future and will be dominated by Rohingyas and other non buddhist groups.

Democracy in Myanmar is a threat to Bamars and other Buddhist groups.

@Aung Zaya @tarpitz @Tagaung @MINN

Glad we threat your kind badly. You deserve no mercy.

 

[Galactic Penguin SST]

How will Myanmar acquire wmd when they have signed the NPT and ASEAN Nuclear treaty, ratified the CTBT, signed the TPNW although they did not ratify it.

Like North Korea and Iran, the first condition is political diplomatic incentives.

This means national independence and patriotism must be paramount forces behind any WMD endeavour, stronger than international and economic ties.

And it requires decades of commitment, if there is a leadership change, then the strategic weapons program might be in jeopardy.

As for today, a first step in the right direction has been taken by the Tatmadaw!

More sanctions by the U.S. and the E.U. will mean more freedom in this direction, as there will be nothing more to loose than one's dignity.

If they choose to escalate to the U.N.S.C. then the Tatmadaw will have the hands free to withdraw from the NPT, the ASEAN Nuclear treaty, the CTBT, and the TPNW.

Moreover, with the latest coup, General Min Aung Hlaing can now start a rapprochement with Thailand's Prime Minister General Prayut Chan O Cha!

It is the best time ever for this. An alliance could later be upgraded with a political union and to rekindle a greater regional (Buddhist) Economic Zone similar to the (Christian) European Union, with the memberships of Cambodia and Laos.

There is little hope for Myanmar to seat at the table of great powers along China the U.S. and the E.U. without such regional South East Asian Union.

The space program and other high-end scientific research programs can only be successful if Thailand, Cambodia and Laos join their efforts.


Let us have a look again at the Ka Pa Sa 22 horizontal rocket motor test stand.

https://archive.vn/lecVn/9ef3be478103d4cba7213c1477dc3b5a2dc4202e.jpg ; https://archive.vn/lecVn/a5474c8916876e2ed12211f86162a33539ae795a/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/20201225170213/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqCjOv1W4AIFKg8?format=jpg&name=900x900
▲ 1. Myanmar's Ka Pa Sa 22 factory (21.200122° 94.508280°): it does look a lot like a horizontal rocket motor test stand!

https://archive.vn/SaapA/0368ec7b00cf929586697197545a0c007e46db0c.jpg ; https://archive.vn/SaapA/c6e6bdfe132b0bc64ddaca84c0396ccb3c2b4a49/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/20201225170249/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqCjQSkXYAElEJz?format=jpg&name=large
▲ 2. A 3D reconstruction of the possible horizontal rocket motor test stand.

https://archive.vn/PL7jQ/9c7c33bc7936f8b6062ed52e3c3f7e386baebffa.jpg ; https://archive.vn/PL7jQ/af58d3b3af8f4afea17b3fc71f8e8000f84c41f1/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/20201225170310/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqCjRWVXIAEKfzu?format=jpg&name=large
▲ 3. A 3D reconstruction of the possible horizontal rocket motor test stand.

It is absolutely comparable in size to the Iranian Khojir Test Stand.

https://archive.is/UoP2q/a917cdc5c14242f106f70ed1ab49eb9e9607e77a.jpg ; https://archive.is/UoP2q/948a967d0a9969f511254ce355a24caf3171884e/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/20210204173628/https://i.imgur.com/Jam3GUr.jpg
▲ 4. Iranian Khojir Test Stand.


First stage motor of the 1.5 meter diameter Sejjil-3 IRBM test at Khojir. 35.652999° 51.658472°

https://archive.vn/JJiNH/c8e30f8926a64118a4033bdae9f35e028af52829.jpg ; https://archive.vn/JJiNH/1bef895b1a651962dc71026bd441ad745f238a4a/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/20210202063217/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtJw4MjWMAA_luY?format=jpg&name=large
▲ 5. First stage motor test at Khojir. 35.652999° 51.658472°

And this is what the Tatmadaw can expect: a real first solid propellant IRBM/ICBM.

Iranian Sejjil-3 IRBM/Zoljanah SLV specs:

length: 25.5m
mass: 52 tons
diameter 1. & 2. stage 1.5m
diameter 3. stage 1.25m (derived from Safir 2. stage)
solid motor thrust: 74 tons

https://archive.vn/NsJYu/8061c79363eb0ea8d1e69027367910babca8cd7b.jpg ; https://archive.vn/NsJYu/e5139f17641a85fd699faf812d9c294eb4cbef5a/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/20210202062843/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtJzT5EXMAYHVoq?format=jpg&name=large
▲ 6. Zoljanah specs.

And on par with Israel's Jericho-3 ICBM.

https://archive.is/Iu1oH/1a52e9b2beb97752d127185cfcc12597256742b5.jpg ; https://archive.is/Iu1oH/f39ca5d6ecea59221f8485491645e1c5aee832a2/scr.png ; https://web.archive.org/web/20210204100110/https://i.imgur.com/JiMlroN.jpg
▲ 7. Israel's Jericho-3 YA-4 ICBM with PBV and 2 nuclear warheads.

But the most important factor is the economic strength.

And Myanmar is among the top nations.

Myanmar coup gives Chinese rare earth stocks an uneasy bounce as state of emergency raises supply squeeze concerns

• Stocks in the rare earth industry get an unexpected boost as Myanmar coup creates supply risks in world’s third-biggest producer
• China Rare Earth Holdings, MMG soar in Hong Kong even as analysts questioning the strength of price rally

Published: 1:37pm, 3 Feb, 2021

Rare earth related stocks in Hong Kong and mainland China are enjoying a mini rally after a military coup in Myanmar this week stoked concerns about a supply squeeze. The bounce may be fleeting, according to Guosen Securities.

The military seized power in the Southeast Asian nation on February 1 and immediately imposed a state of emergency for one year, citing fraud in last year’s elections.

Myanmar mined 30,000 metric tons of rare earth oxides equivalent, or 12.5 per cent of global production in 2020, according to estimates compiled by the US Geological Survey, up from 10.5 per cent in 2019. China produced the most at 140,000 tons, or a 66.7 per cent share, while the US accounted for 38,000 tons or 15.8 per cent.

https://www.scmp.com/business/companies/article/3120338/myanmar-coup-gives-chinese-rare-earth-stocks-uneasy-bounce-state
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As the world’s third-biggest producer of Rare Earth, Myanmar deserve and must achieve a top ranking status. In term of economy, living standard, military strength.

It is not just another resource-rich African failed state without historic past, only good as milk cow of the ethnic Europeans.

To sum up, Myanmar could soon join the elite club of ICBM possessing military great powers, after India, Israel, North Korea and Iran.

A regional economical, academic, and political alliance is necessary. Divided all 4 nations will remain marginalized. United, all will seat at the table of the Great Powers.

General Min Aung Hlaing is in the best position to initiate such a rapprochement with Thailand's Prime Minister General Prayut Chan O Cha, thus writing a new chapter in the history of South East Asia.

https://archive.vn/PxwE7/6b7c2cb8f7897d6bd1acfba4587b3d45cd9f37e4.jpg ; https://archive.vn/PxwE7/e28dc533a292f1e4df1321b8404de14a163a6375/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/20210205105051/https://i.imgur.com/LtolFsc.jpg
▲ 8. A regional economical, academic, and political alliance is necessary.

 

[Tagaung]

Let us have a look again at the Ka Pa Sa 22 horizontal rocket motor test stand.

there are already some test marks on that green pavement, indicating some rocket engine tests have been done before. This means, there are already some prototypes.