Myanmar Defence Forum

[MINN]

A very detailed artical on the current Myanmar military and its future.

Opinion | Myanmar’s Purchase of Planes From Jordan a Sign of Things to Come

As the military becomes increasingly concerned with securing offshore resources and deterring regional threats, its appetite for hardware will only grow.

www.irrawaddy.com

 

[TheEunch]

To be really honest, what are the chances of us buying the Mitsubishi f2s when Japan replaces them?

there’s no arms embargo from Japan against us and the US most of the time dosent really give a shit.

 

[Wanchai]

To be really honest, what are the chances of us buying the Mitsubishi f2s when Japan replaces them?

there’s no arms embargo from Japan against us and the US most of the time dosent really give a shit.

All depend on how much concession can Japan give to us? Japan made F16 can not be cheap, may be more expensive. In terms of price and value, Russian Su30 can take that role of multirole fighter for a decade at least and we can not afford both systems at the same time. More priority now is our combat troops modernizations.

 

[Lord Of Gondor]

Senior General Min Aung Hlaing during his India visit last year:

Gen Kyaw at the home of the "Lightnings"

 

[MINN]

So the Navy Birthday commissioned the kilo, 2 ASW Corvettes, 1 FAC, 1 LCU and 2 Tug boat.

 

[The Ronin]

https://www.facebook.com/theirrawaddy/posts/4013030592075101

 

[MINN]

Armored Vehicle repair facility.

More photos from the Navy commission ceremony.

 

[MINN]

Indian and Russian Ambassador along with a Indian Admiral attended the commissioning ceremony of the Kilo.

 

[MINN]

@TharTharLay are you going to add the 2 ASW ships as corvetts?

 

[Buddhistforlife]

@Aung Zaya @MINN @Tagaung @tarpitz

 

[Galactic Penguin SST]

Mingalabar and Merry Christmas bro, here a present from Santa Kim!
⚛

Maybe the first ever open source claim for a Burmese rocket development facility: possible static test stand for rocket engine sighted!

Ka Pa Sa 22 horizontal rocket motor test stand

This is a really interesting installation at Myanmar's Ka Pa Sa 22 factory (21.200122° 94.508280°). The 3D reconstruction looks a lot like a horizontal rocket motor test stand.

https://archive.vn/mSj4M/22c63ad9ffd9a7c4b7f80cba5161d4b49562d7c5.jpg ; https://archive.vn/mSj4M/86077e51fcd386f1fe1322bb52e0c1610e5118a5/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/20201225165839/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqCd8GeXYAEKFYG?format=jpg&name=large
▲ 1. The vast military production infrastructure in Myanmar.

https://archive.vn/lecVn/9ef3be478103d4cba7213c1477dc3b5a2dc4202e.jpg ; https://archive.vn/lecVn/a5474c8916876e2ed12211f86162a33539ae795a/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/20201225170213/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqCjOv1W4AIFKg8?format=jpg&name=900x900
▲ 2. Myanmar's Ka Pa Sa 22 factory (21.200122° 94.508280°): it does look a lot like a horizontal rocket motor test stand!

https://archive.vn/SaapA/0368ec7b00cf929586697197545a0c007e46db0c.jpg ; https://archive.vn/SaapA/c6e6bdfe132b0bc64ddaca84c0396ccb3c2b4a49/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/20201225170249/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqCjQSkXYAElEJz?format=jpg&name=large
▲ 3. A 3D reconstruction of the possible horizontal rocket motor test stand.

https://archive.vn/PL7jQ/9c7c33bc7936f8b6062ed52e3c3f7e386baebffa.jpg ; https://archive.vn/PL7jQ/af58d3b3af8f4afea17b3fc71f8e8000f84c41f1/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/20201225170310/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqCjRWVXIAEKfzu?format=jpg&name=large
▲ 4. A 3D reconstruction of the possible horizontal rocket motor test stand.

This facility is huge indeed!


Reference

While Myanmar has maintained some military production capabilities for along time, these have traditionally been rather limited. Only in the last two decades has this infrastructure been vastly expanded with the country now mustering at least 25 factories.

These facilities are surprisingly large and usually built in remote jungle areas of the country with on-site housing for workers. Maintained by the Directorate of Defence Industries, they are known by their Burmese acronym Ka Pa Sa and numbered.

Different sources were used for geolocation. A few sites have previously been discussed in the OSINT community. Some locations were mentioned in media reports involving land disputes, others were included in reports about Myanmar's national electricity grid.

This highly recommended article by Bertil Lintner also included several locations. So here we go...

Burma’s WMD Programme And Military Cooperation With The Democratic People’s Republic Of Korea

Published on Mar 14, 2012

Burma’s WMD Programme And Military Cooperation With The Democratic People’s Republic Of Korea

The resumption of diplomatic ties between Burma and North Korea in April 2007 came after more than a decade of quiet cooperation.

issuu.com

http://web.archive.org/web/20201224232632/https://issuu.com/asia_pacific_media_services/docs/burma-dark-post
https://archive.is/7eoUn​

Ka Pa Sa 1. 16.838736° 96.149553°
Ka Pa Sa 2. 19.928915° 95.009777°

Ka Pa Sa 3. 18.789831° 95.196294°
Ka Pa Sa 5. 18.530709° 94.992593°

Ka Pa Sa 6 and 16 should be located in this broader area 18.687068° 94.985989°

Ka Pa Sa 8. 19.659741° 95.265244°
Potentially, the location of Ka Pa Sa 9. 18.618588° 94.974167°

The vast Ka Pa Sa 10 complex. 19.955830° 94.955285°
Potentially, the location of Ka Pa Sa 11. 17.326922° 96.059000°

Ka Pa Sa 12. 19.332532° 95.090041°
Ka Pa Sa 13. 19.792797° 95.085368°

Ka Pa Sa 14. This site has been alleged to be a North Korean-built missile factory. 19.988155° 94.444311°
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-pacific-11966136

Ka Pa Sa 15. 19.382914° 95.426527°
Ka Pa Sa 17. 20.240501° 95.621074°

Ka Pa Sa 18. 19.801689° 95.739490°
Ka Pa Sa 19. 19.070693° 95.639281°

Ka Pa Sa 20. 20.465197° 94.203017°
Ka Pa Sa 21, whose area stretches for almost 10km. 20.949352° 94.348304°

The vast Ka Pa Sa 22 facility. 21.199831° 94.544206°
Ka Pa Sa 23. 22.142037° 94.307229°

Ka Pa Sa 24. This facility has previously been discussed as a potential CW production site. 21.498840° 94.368768°
http://nonproliferation.org/suspect-defense-facility-in-myanmar/

Ka Pa Sa 25. 20.879103° 94.201113°

 

[Lord Of Gondor]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1342530315676479490

 

[Buddhistforlife]

Mingalabar and Merry Christmas bro, here a present from Santa Kim!
⚛

Maybe the first ever open source claim for a Burmese rocket development facility: possible static test stand for rocket engine sighted!

Ka Pa Sa 22 horizontal rocket motor test stand

This is a really interesting installation at Myanmar's Ka Pa Sa 22 factory (21.200122° 94.508280°). The 3D reconstruction looks a lot like a horizontal rocket motor test stand.

https://archive.vn/mSj4M/22c63ad9ffd9a7c4b7f80cba5161d4b49562d7c5.jpg ; https://archive.vn/mSj4M/86077e51fcd386f1fe1322bb52e0c1610e5118a5/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/20201225165839/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqCd8GeXYAEKFYG?format=jpg&name=large
▲ 1. The vast military production infrastructure in Myanmar.

https://archive.vn/lecVn/9ef3be478103d4cba7213c1477dc3b5a2dc4202e.jpg ; https://archive.vn/lecVn/a5474c8916876e2ed12211f86162a33539ae795a/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/20201225170213/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqCjOv1W4AIFKg8?format=jpg&name=900x900
▲ 2. Myanmar's Ka Pa Sa 22 factory (21.200122° 94.508280°): it does look a lot like a horizontal rocket motor test stand!

https://archive.vn/SaapA/0368ec7b00cf929586697197545a0c007e46db0c.jpg ; https://archive.vn/SaapA/c6e6bdfe132b0bc64ddaca84c0396ccb3c2b4a49/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/20201225170249/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqCjQSkXYAElEJz?format=jpg&name=large
▲ 3. A 3D reconstruction of the possible horizontal rocket motor test stand.

https://archive.vn/PL7jQ/9c7c33bc7936f8b6062ed52e3c3f7e386baebffa.jpg ; https://archive.vn/PL7jQ/af58d3b3af8f4afea17b3fc71f8e8000f84c41f1/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/20201225170310/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqCjRWVXIAEKfzu?format=jpg&name=large
▲ 4. A 3D reconstruction of the possible horizontal rocket motor test stand.

This facility is huge indeed!


Reference

While Myanmar has maintained some military production capabilities for along time, these have traditionally been rather limited. Only in the last two decades has this infrastructure been vastly expanded with the country now mustering at least 25 factories.

These facilities are surprisingly large and usually built in remote jungle areas of the country with on-site housing for workers. Maintained by the Directorate of Defence Industries, they are known by their Burmese acronym Ka Pa Sa and numbered.

Different sources were used for geolocation. A few sites have previously been discussed in the OSINT community. Some locations were mentioned in media reports involving land disputes, others were included in reports about Myanmar's national electricity grid.

This highly recommended article by Bertil Lintner also included several locations. So here we go...

Burma’s WMD Programme And Military Cooperation With The Democratic People’s Republic Of Korea ​

​

Published on Mar 14, 2012 ​

​

Burma’s WMD Programme And Military Cooperation With The Democratic People’s Republic Of Korea

The resumption of diplomatic ties between Burma and North Korea in April 2007 came after more than a decade of quiet cooperation.

issuu.com

​

http://web.archive.org/web/20201224232632/https://issuu.com/asia_pacific_media_services/docs/burma-dark-post[/SIZE][/I][/INDENT]
[I][SIZE=1]
[INDENT]https://archive.is/7eoUn​

Ka Pa Sa 1. 16.838736° 96.149553°
Ka Pa Sa 2. 19.928915° 95.009777°

Ka Pa Sa 3. 18.789831° 95.196294°
Ka Pa Sa 5. 18.530709° 94.992593°

Ka Pa Sa 6 and 16 should be located in this broader area 18.687068° 94.985989°

Ka Pa Sa 8. 19.659741° 95.265244°
Potentially, the location of Ka Pa Sa 9. 18.618588° 94.974167°

The vast Ka Pa Sa 10 complex. 19.955830° 94.955285°
Potentially, the location of Ka Pa Sa 11. 17.326922° 96.059000°

Ka Pa Sa 12. 19.332532° 95.090041°
Ka Pa Sa 13. 19.792797° 95.085368°

Ka Pa Sa 14. This site has been alleged to be a North Korean-built missile factory. 19.988155° 94.444311°
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-pacific-11966136

Ka Pa Sa 15. 19.382914° 95.426527°
Ka Pa Sa 17. 20.240501° 95.621074°

Ka Pa Sa 18. 19.801689° 95.739490°
Ka Pa Sa 19. 19.070693° 95.639281°

Ka Pa Sa 20. 20.465197° 94.203017°
Ka Pa Sa 21, whose area stretches for almost 10km. 20.949352° 94.348304°

The vast Ka Pa Sa 22 facility. 21.199831° 94.544206°
Ka Pa Sa 23. 22.142037° 94.307229°

Ka Pa Sa 24. This facility has previously been discussed as a potential CW production site. 21.498840° 94.368768°
http://nonproliferation.org/suspect-defense-facility-in-myanmar/

Ka Pa Sa 25. 20.879103° 94.201113°

How will Myanmar acquire wmd when they have signed the NPT and ASEAN Nuclear treaty, ratified the CTBT, signed the TPNW although they did not ratify it.

 

[Galactic Penguin SST]

How will Myanmar acquire wmd when they have signed the NPT and ASEAN Nuclear treaty, ratified the CTBT, signed the TPNW although they did not ratify it.

Like Italy, Japan, Germany, Israel, South Korea, Spain, etc.

Under the guise of a civilian program.

Here today's exemple:

We are talking about the Chinese proposal to use the Lunar mission Chang'e 7 to detonate a small bomb (yes) on the surface of the Moon!

This dual-use civilian-military technology is equivalent to a missile with 200g of TNT equivalent explosive warhead, causing a crater of 1.5 meters deep, at a distance of 500-1000 meters from the lander!

In military term, China's People's Liberation Army (P.L.A.) would have demonstrated after the U.S. and Japan, in being the 3rd power in the World to master missiles in outer space.

Capability especially useful when dealing with co-orbital targets, such as Geosynchronous satellites that can not be reached with current ASAT Kinetic Kill Vehicle (KKV) missile from the ground.

https://archive.vn/AD1oQ/59bd5d0ddff140cadf7efde171143f8052f82b65.jpg ; https://archive.vn/AD1oQ/60ca2862ce0a386a75767b7ff90bb8b00306f70b/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/20201228195634/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqIH5vrXcAIl9SS?format=jpg&name=large ; http://web.archive.org/web/20201228195528/https://twitter.com/Kaynouky/status/1342645980714463232 ; https://archive.vn/Ifnx3
▲ 1. Chang'e 7 mission to test dual-use civilian-military missile on the Moon.

Meanwhile more rocket stage that could be retrieved by the Tatmadaw for reverse-engineering purpose, delivered express via air:

The 39th and last Chinese space launch took place on December 27 evening at 11:44 p.m., at the Jiuquan Space Center, with the launching of the YG-33 military satellite and a nano satellite, by a Long March 4 rocket.

One of the fallout zones is located 50 km off the Burmese coast.

https://archive.vn/QhWzf/4b952ac8a77be05586e083c86fc2776bcef19a79.jpg ; https://archive.vn/QhWzf/6558d9b8ba9c9071be4e34ebd76bb225d9ad671c/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/20201228195916/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqKBLTCUcAEroc6?format=jpg&name=large ; https://twitter.com/HenriKenhmann/status/1342778414290202624/photo/1
▲ 2. Latest CZ-4 rocket stage that could be retrieved by the Tatmadaw for reverse-engineering purpose.

 

[Tagaung]

Mingalabar and Merry Christmas bro, here a present from Santa Kim!
⚛

Maybe the first ever open source claim for a Burmese rocket development facility: possible static test stand for rocket engine sighted!

Ka Pa Sa 22 horizontal rocket motor test stand

This is a really interesting installation at Myanmar's Ka Pa Sa 22 factory (21.200122° 94.508280°). The 3D reconstruction looks a lot like a horizontal rocket motor test stand.

https://archive.vn/mSj4M/22c63ad9ffd9a7c4b7f80cba5161d4b49562d7c5.jpg ; https://archive.vn/mSj4M/86077e51fcd386f1fe1322bb52e0c1610e5118a5/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/20201225165839/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqCd8GeXYAEKFYG?format=jpg&name=large
▲ 1. The vast military production infrastructure in Myanmar.

https://archive.vn/lecVn/9ef3be478103d4cba7213c1477dc3b5a2dc4202e.jpg ; https://archive.vn/lecVn/a5474c8916876e2ed12211f86162a33539ae795a/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/20201225170213/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqCjOv1W4AIFKg8?format=jpg&name=900x900
▲ 2. Myanmar's Ka Pa Sa 22 factory (21.200122° 94.508280°): it does look a lot like a horizontal rocket motor test stand!

https://archive.vn/SaapA/0368ec7b00cf929586697197545a0c007e46db0c.jpg ; https://archive.vn/SaapA/c6e6bdfe132b0bc64ddaca84c0396ccb3c2b4a49/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/20201225170249/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqCjQSkXYAElEJz?format=jpg&name=large
▲ 3. A 3D reconstruction of the possible horizontal rocket motor test stand.

https://archive.vn/PL7jQ/9c7c33bc7936f8b6062ed52e3c3f7e386baebffa.jpg ; https://archive.vn/PL7jQ/af58d3b3af8f4afea17b3fc71f8e8000f84c41f1/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/20201225170310/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqCjRWVXIAEKfzu?format=jpg&name=large
▲ 4. A 3D reconstruction of the possible horizontal rocket motor test stand.

This facility is huge indeed!


Reference

While Myanmar has maintained some military production capabilities for along time, these have traditionally been rather limited. Only in the last two decades has this infrastructure been vastly expanded with the country now mustering at least 25 factories.

These facilities are surprisingly large and usually built in remote jungle areas of the country with on-site housing for workers. Maintained by the Directorate of Defence Industries, they are known by their Burmese acronym Ka Pa Sa and numbered.

Different sources were used for geolocation. A few sites have previously been discussed in the OSINT community. Some locations were mentioned in media reports involving land disputes, others were included in reports about Myanmar's national electricity grid.

This highly recommended article by Bertil Lintner also included several locations. So here we go...

Burma’s WMD Programme And Military Cooperation With The Democratic People’s Republic Of Korea ​

​

Published on Mar 14, 2012 ​

​

Burma’s WMD Programme And Military Cooperation With The Democratic People’s Republic Of Korea

The resumption of diplomatic ties between Burma and North Korea in April 2007 came after more than a decade of quiet cooperation.

issuu.com

​

http://web.archive.org/web/20201224232632/https://issuu.com/asia_pacific_media_services/docs/burma-dark-post[/SIZE][/I][/INDENT][/SIZE][/I][/INDENT]
[I][SIZE=1][INDENT][I][SIZE=1][/INDENT]
[INDENT][INDENT]https://archive.is/7eoUn​

Ka Pa Sa 1. 16.838736° 96.149553°
Ka Pa Sa 2. 19.928915° 95.009777°

Ka Pa Sa 3. 18.789831° 95.196294°
Ka Pa Sa 5. 18.530709° 94.992593°

Ka Pa Sa 6 and 16 should be located in this broader area 18.687068° 94.985989°

Ka Pa Sa 8. 19.659741° 95.265244°
Potentially, the location of Ka Pa Sa 9. 18.618588° 94.974167°

The vast Ka Pa Sa 10 complex. 19.955830° 94.955285°
Potentially, the location of Ka Pa Sa 11. 17.326922° 96.059000°

Ka Pa Sa 12. 19.332532° 95.090041°
Ka Pa Sa 13. 19.792797° 95.085368°

Ka Pa Sa 14. This site has been alleged to be a North Korean-built missile factory. 19.988155° 94.444311°
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-pacific-11966136

Ka Pa Sa 15. 19.382914° 95.426527°
Ka Pa Sa 17. 20.240501° 95.621074°

Ka Pa Sa 18. 19.801689° 95.739490°
Ka Pa Sa 19. 19.070693° 95.639281°

Ka Pa Sa 20. 20.465197° 94.203017°
Ka Pa Sa 21, whose area stretches for almost 10km. 20.949352° 94.348304°

The vast Ka Pa Sa 22 facility. 21.199831° 94.544206°
Ka Pa Sa 23. 22.142037° 94.307229°

Ka Pa Sa 24. This facility has previously been discussed as a potential CW production site. 21.498840° 94.368768°
http://nonproliferation.org/suspect-defense-facility-in-myanmar/

Ka Pa Sa 25. 20.879103° 94.201113°

wow, dude. i didn't even know about Ka Pa Sa (22). thanks for the info.

i google its coordinates and ka pa sa (22) factory is f-king huge. One thing for sure is that this is not an ordinary arms factory you can find in Bangladesh or even Thailand. this site is kind of a top secret facility not even international journalist and public knows about.

note: what is suspicious about this factory is, it is located near the Pauk factory (alleged CW factory).
and i also discover another odd building in the compound. Any idea what might it be?