'Mujib: The Making of a Nation' releases today in 200 halls

[Bengal71]

mass uprisings removed Ayub and Musharaf

but they still keep coming back. What structural reforms did your government take to confine the armed forces to their constitutional role?

Nothing really. Structural reform hardly matters as people are the ones who make the reforms and break them. True guard of democracy is the people. It's not that we are a beacon of democracy since Hasina has been compromising democracy but even then the army is not in control, Hasina and her party still civilian.

 

[El Sidd]

I love it! Pakistani shills and actual Pakistanis can never agree on the role of Mujib

I guess your next biopic about him would be 50 shades of Mujib?

If you think Pakistani Army plays by the rules and spirit of your constitution I think you are entitled to your opinions. All I can say "ignorance is bliss"
Have a nice day

You too a nice day

 

[El Sidd]

Nothing really. Structural reform hardly matters as people are the ones who make the reforms and break them. True guard of democracy is the people. It's not that we are a beacon of democracy since Hasina has been compromising democracy but even then the army is not in control, Hasina and her party still civilian.

Lol

 

[IndianLite]

I guess your next biopic about him would be 50 shades of Mujib?

You too a nice day

Mujib was a complex fellow like all politicians.

He was a fervent Pakistani and a firm believer in the two nation theory.

If East Bengal didn’t have unity amongst its leaders for two nations - British would not have agreed to East Bengal joining Pakistan. We would have been fobbed off like Kashmiris.

Difference between Kashmir and East Bengal - was the political leadership.

THERE WAS NO WAY EAST BENGALIS WERE GOING TO JOIN INDIA.

Our grandparents would have literally done anything! British and Nehru understood that.

And Pakistani military never understood it.

East Bengali Muslims are fiercely independent.

Back to Mujib…

He came to hate Pakistan when the Pakistani military backstabbed him. And he finally accepted that Bengalis would never be equal citizens.

Which led him to declare struggle for independence.

But like all independence leaders - he proved to be a terrible administrator. Whilst he was not personally corrupt - he turned a blind eye to the thuggery and corruption by his close associates.

Furthermore, he ushered in socialism, at the behest of idiots like Taj Uddin, which destroyed the economy.

In summary, Mujib was an inspirational leader who united Bengalis against the Pakistani junta and declared the struggle for independence. But he was a terrible administrator and turned a blind eye to thuggery and corruption.

 

[Hellfire2006]

Mujib didn't break Pakistan. The general people with the help of India and the East Bengal regiment broke Pakistan. Mujib was not even a Muktijoddha and spent his jail time in West Pakistan until Bangladesh was liberated.

True , Mukti Bahini comprised mostly of erstwhile EBR troops.

 

[VikingRaider]

PDF Pakistanis and BNP shills!

I am going to lock you into a room and you are not coming out until you agree the role of Mujib and Indian Army in the creation of Bangladesh.

1. PDF Pakistanis believe Mujib was a traitor for instigating the creation of Bangladesh and it was Indian Army that tipped the balance.

2. BNP shills believe Mujib was a bystander and it was the tiny East Bengal regiment, led by low ranking officers, who defeated the mighty Pakistani army.

These a diametrically opposed, mutually exclusive, positions.

SO, WHO IS RIGHT?

You should ask the question to Sharmin Ahmed, the daughter of Tajuddin Ahmed!

Btw , both Indian and Pakistani claim our freedom fight as India Pakistan war!

So what is actually true? Was it freedom fight or India Pakistan war?

Since I consider our freedom fight as only our freedom fight, hence i see no role of Indian army here!

What's your take on our freedom war?

 

[Jf Thunder]

Nothing really. Structural reform hardly matters as people are the ones who make the reforms and break them. True guard of democracy is the people. It's not that we are a beacon of democracy since Hasina has been compromising democracy but even then the army is not in control, Hasina and her party still civilian.

hmm, this is interesting really
because you armed forces backed off at the wishes of the people

but ours don't, maybe because their size is too large and bloated.

 

[IndianLite]

You should ask the question to Sharmin Ahmed, the daughter of Tajuddin Ahmed!

Btw , both Indian and Pakistani claim our freedom fight as India Pakistan war!

So what is actually true? Was it freedom fight or India Pakistan war?

Since I consider our freedom fight as only our freedom fight, hence i see no role of Indian army here!

What's your take on our freedom war?

Tajuddin was a socialist idiot!

And I don’t hold his family members in high regards either.

View on the war…

It was a complex story..

Without Indian support and intervention - Pakistani military might have eventually triumphed. Especially given the large number of Rajakars and US support.

But India helped because it was in their interest not because of any benevolence. Hence, Bangladesh does not owe India anything.

Mujib timed his movement perfectly.

Imagine if Bangladesh’s freedom struggle coincided with the soviet invasion of Afghanistan - Pakistan would have demanded US intervene directly as quid pro for supporting the Mujhadeens.

Once Pakistan attained nuclear weapons - India lost all leverage to change the borders.

So basically, be thankful for Mujib and his timing.

He was a shrewd politician who ensured Bangladeshi liberation struggle was inclusive and could not be tagged as a terrorist organisation.

 

[VikingRaider]

Tajuddin was a socialist idiot!

And I don’t hold his family members in high regards either.

If you reject Tajuddin Ahmed, you are rejecting the entire freedom fight, hence his family members should not be regarded low!

So I think it's not wise to argue with someone who have such low estimate on Tajuddin family!


Sorry mate , i always avoid argument with BAL and jamati people! Because both are toxic people and consider others fool!

But now it looks ,you are more toxic and irrational than they are!

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

It's Punjab who gave him a chance to broke the country

It was a one unit back then and your gumrah friends wanted it to finish and have provinces with maximum autonomy. That actually helped bengal pakhtun and sindhi nationalists make their own pseudo states with little to no control of islamabad..where secession would be one referendum away.. Fatima jinnah got played with these people who used her for their own nefarious designs..Ayub in 1962 offered bengali elite to form a confederation with west wing but they refused as they saw themelves like an another punjab of the two wings controlling that would always have majority in the national assembly based on their majority ethnic group , deciding where the capital is to be or make bengal as the national language..the end game of the whole language movement running since 47.
West pakistan unlike bengal had multiple ethnic groups to cater wanting their own languages to be national lingos and so would not h have survived under such a quasi regime anyways so what happened happened for the best but it could have happened peacefully..

 

[my2cents]

Did anyone watch the damn movie???

 

[White and Green with M/S]

It was a one unit back then and your gumrah friends wanted it to finish and have provinces with maximum autonomy. That actually helped bengal pakhtun and sindhi nationalists make their own pseudo states with little to no control of islamabad..where secession would be one referendum away.. Fatima jinnah got played with these people who used her for their own nefarious designs..Ayub in 1962 offered bengali elite to form a confederation with west wing but they refused as they saw themelves like an another punjab of the two wings controlling that would always have majority in the national assembly based on their majority ethnic group , deciding where the capital is to be or make bengal as the national language..the end game of the whole language movement running since 47.
West pakistan unlike bengal had multiple ethnic groups to cater wanting their own languages to be national lingos and so would not h have survived under such a quasi regime anyways so what happened happened for the best but it could have happened peacefully..

They won't want bangali language as a national language but provisional language in East Pakistan

And only Punjab was responsible of breakup of the country

 

[Bengal71]

hmm, this is interesting really
because you armed forces backed off at the wishes of the people

but ours don't, maybe because their size is too large and bloated.

Nope, your people didn't take a stance yet.

 

[@blue Ocean]

THERE WAS NO WAY EAST BENGALIS WERE GOING TO JOIN INDIA.

What kind of assertion is this? Do not you ever read the history of Pakistan Movement? Please read and contribute here for us ignorant to know about it.

Was not it the Bengali Muslims who initiated the movement to create a separate nation for themselves? Do you think Muslim League was formed in Lahore or Peshawar?

So, please read history.

 

[saif]

2. BNP shills believe Mujib was a bystander and it was the tiny East Bengal regiment, led by low ranking officers, who defeated the mighty Pakistani army.

East Bengal Regiment with the help of common people of East Pakistan defeated the Pakistani army. Mujib or any other Awami Leaguers did not fight. None of them are Muktijoddha.