Mufti Muneeb hits back at Fawad on moon controversy

[RealNapster]

Update : Deen Khatre me....

KARACHI: Mufti Muneeb, Chairman Central Ruet-i-Hilal Committee, has advised Federal Minister for Science and Technology Chaudhry Fawad Hussain to refrain from commenting on religious matters.

The statement from the religious scholar came after the minister's announcement that a five-member committee had been constituted to prepare a ten-year calendar for Muharram, Eids and Ramadan to end dispute arising from sighting of crescent.

Mufti Muneeb was talking to media persons at the Karachi Met Office, where he was chairing the meeting for Ramadan moon sighting. ‘The minister is unaware of the system and if he is interested, we can make a 100-year lunar calendar for him.’

He advised Fawad to not distort Pakistan's history and asked Prime Minister Imran Khan to instruct his ministers the same. The minister must know that the Ruet-e-Hilal Committee’s meeting is held at Metrological Department.

In a tweet on Sunday, Fawad said the lunar calendar would be promulgated in the country after getting federal cabinet’s approval.

He said the committee would consist of members from Pakistan Space and Upper Atmosphere Research Commission (SUPARCO), Meteorological Department and Science and Technology and they would start working from next week.

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I am fedup of this committee’s incompetence. I fought with all yesterday when they asked me to fast i told them that i am going to do so only when government announce. But last night even a blind person could have seen the moon. It stayed for 20+ minute in sky (even when night darkness spread). First night moon is not supposed to do that. First night moon remain visible only for 3 +- minutes and even human eye find it difficult to see it. But i was able to capture it on my mobile phone camera which clearly shows that yesterday was the accurate first ramdan...

And now he want to shut the Federal minister and ask him to “stay away from religious issues” ? What the hell. Moon sighting is not a religious issue.

 

[RealNapster]

@Zibago , @WarKa DaNG , @karakoram , @Tps43 , @Imran Khan

 

[Hiraa]

Highly incompetent committee.

 

[fisher1]

Update : Deen Khatre me....

KARACHI: Mufti Muneeb, Chairman Central Ruet-i-Hilal Committee, has advised Federal Minister for Science and Technology Chaudhry Fawad Hussain to refrain from commenting on religious matters.

The statement from the religious scholar came after the minister's announcement that a five-member committee had been constituted to prepare a ten-year calendar for Muharram, Eids and Ramadan to end dispute arising from sighting of crescent.

Mufti Muneeb was talking to media persons at the Karachi Met Office, where he was chairing the meeting for Ramadan moon sighting. ‘The minister is unaware of the system and if he is interested, we can make a 100-year lunar calendar for him.’

He advised Fawad to not distort Pakistan's history and asked Prime Minister Imran Khan to instruct his ministers the same. The minister must know that the Ruet-e-Hilal Committee’s meeting is held at Metrological Department.

In a tweet on Sunday, Fawad said the lunar calendar would be promulgated in the country after getting federal cabinet’s approval.

He said the committee would consist of members from Pakistan Space and Upper Atmosphere Research Commission (SUPARCO), Meteorological Department and Science and Technology and they would start working from next week.

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I am fedup of this committee’s incompetence. I fought with all yesterday when they asked me to fast i told them that i am going to do so only when government announce. But last night even a blind person could have seen the moon. It stayed for 20+ minute in sky (even when night darkness spread). First night moon is not supposed to do that. First night moon remain visible only for 3 +- minutes and even human eye find it difficult to see it. But i was able to capture it on my mobile phone camera which clearly shows that yesterday was the accurate first ramdan...

And now he want to shut the Federal minister and ask him to “stay away from religious issues” ? What the hell. Moon sighting is not a religious issue.

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Moon sighting is a religious issue. What the f else would people care about sighting moon if not for religion.

And read the ahadiths on Ramadan. It's clear hwo you're supposed to start Ramadan and end it.

By seeing that moon and even taking pictures of it, you refused to follow Sunnah and follow Fawad Chaudry instead.

Perhaps if instead of bashing Maulvis all day, you actually bothered to learn Islam rather than follow Fawad, you'd know that you didn't fast out of your arrogant ignorance.

Remember Sunnah is greater than Fawad and Muneeb. You should've gone to the Masjid and gave Shahah and shown them the picture instead of pledged allegiance to government or Fawad Chaudry.

Also shows how fucked up the government is that they refused testimony of KPK people and call them liars.

Just because Mufti Muneeb is rejecting testimony doesn't mean we need Fawad Chaudry to give us calendars. He can shove that calendar up his....Mufti Muneeb isn't the only Maulvi in Pakistan

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

Highly incompetent committee.

Make it competent but Is not Ramdhan in India also start from 7th may?
What mufti will gain for not fatsing on 6th and starting it from 7th?

Pakistani should follow their committee just like every other Muslim country follow their own committee . if they make mistake intentionally then they will be sinner and average citizen who follow them will not be responsible

 

[fisher1]

 

[RealNapster]

Moon sighting is a religious issue. What the f else would people care about sighting moon if not for religion

No its not. The moon sighting have nothing to do with religion. The process is free of religious influence, only the results are used in religion. Also, your introduction of “f” in your sentence doesn’t make you an intelect neither it add anything to your point.

And read the ahadiths on Ramadan. It's clear hwo you're supposed to start Ramadan and end it.

And how am i supposed to start ramadan ? Please do tell ke as its my first ramadan and i know nothing about it.

By seeing that moon and even taking pictures of it, you refused to follow Sunnah and follow Fawad Chaudry instead

Oh. So by looking at moon, seeing it amd taking pictures of it...... i somehow refused to follow sunmah ? How is that ?? Next level logics i am sure.

Perhaps if instead of bashing Maulvis all day, you actually bothered to learn Islam rather than follow Fawad, you'd know that you didn't fast out of your arrogant ignorance

Mufti muneeb ur rehman is a “Mufti” not a molvi. And where did i “bashed” molvis ? I criticised the incompetence of HILAL COMMITTEE. Too much for your brain to process ? Never mind.

Remember Sunnah is greater than Fawad and Muneeb. You should've gone to the Masjid and gave Shahah and shown them the picture instead of pledged allegiance to government or Fawad Chaudry

You, in the possession of tiny little brain, can’t process that i took the pictures “last night” , committee already announced ramadan last night. I am saying that i was not aupposed to captre a one day moon in my camera as even a human eye can barely see it. Are you with me ? Or is it again too much for your brain to process. Criticising incompetence of a committee comprising of different individuals INCLUDING RELIGIOUS ONE’s doesn’t make me anti-molvi Mr.

Just because Mufti Muneeb is rejecting testimony doesn't mean we need Fawad Chaudry to give us calendars. He can shove that calendar up his....Mufti Muneeb isn't the only Maulvi in Pakistan

Who talking about fawad ? Are you mentally well ? I am comparing the capcities, not the persons. One is a head of Hilal committee , other is a federal minister. The first one is citicising the second one and asking him to “stay away” from religious issues because he criticised his the “incompetence”. ??

 

[karakoram]

Even a blind can see this moon.

 

[RealNapster]

Pakistani should follow their committee just like every other Muslim country follow their own committee . if they make mistake intentionally then they will be sinner and average citizen who follow them will not be responsible

The issue is not that the committee make mistakes. Every one does. Its normal for a human. The issue is that the committee is not willing to take responsibility for their mistakes neither do they accept that yes.... we made mistakes. Instead he is Standing there , confident, saying, all of you are wrong only i am the ultemate truth. Remember last year , or maybe a year previous then that.... when someone told him in the meeting that shahada’s are coming from KP and he smashed the telephone and told him to not take any calls anymore. Camera’s captured that moment..... maybe i am confusing things but the event did happened.

 

[karakoram]

The issue is not that the committee make mistakes. Every one does. Its normal for a human. The issue is that the committee is not willing to take responsibility for their mistakes neither do they accept that yes.... we made mistakes. Instead he is Standing there , confident, saying, all of you are wrong only i am the ultemate truth. Remember last year , or maybe a year previous then that.... when someone told him in the meeting that shahada’s are coming from KP and he smashed the telephone and told him to not take any calls anymore. Camera’s captured that moment..... maybe i am confusing things but the event did happened.

 

[karakoram]

The issue is not that the committee make mistakes. Every one does. Its normal for a human. The issue is that the committee is not willing to take responsibility for their mistakes neither do they accept that yes.... we made mistakes. Instead he is Standing there , confident, saying, all of you are wrong only i am the ultemate truth. Remember last year , or maybe a year previous then that.... when someone told him in the meeting that shahada’s are coming from KP and he smashed the telephone and told him to not take any calls anymore. Camera’s captured that moment..... maybe i am confusing things but the event did happened.

Main problem is he is barelvi and he does not accept ours shahadat not 1 not 2 not 3 not even 22 in his opinion all are lieing except him. This chacha need retirement kam ke na kaj ke dushman anaj ke

 

[RealNapster]

@Proudpakistaniguy listen at the end when they sense that camera captured the moment they start saying “koi aisi shahadat ni ai”...

 

[fisher1]

No its not. The moon sighting have nothing to do with religion. The process is free of religious influence, only the results are used in religion. Also, your introduction of “f” in your sentence doesn’t make you an intelect neither it add anything to your point.



And how am i supposed to start ramadan ? Please do tell ke as its my first ramadan and i know nothing about it.



Oh. So by looking at moon, seeing it amd taking pictures of it...... i somehow refused to follow sunmah ? How is that ?? Next level logics i am sure.



Mufti muneeb ur rehman is a “Mufti” not a molvi. And where did i “bashed” molvis ? I criticised the incompetence of HILAL COMMITTEE. Too much for your brain to process ? Never mind.



You, in the possession of tiny little brain, can’t process that i took the pictures “last night” , committee already announced ramadan last night. I am saying that i was not aupposed to captre a one day moon in my camera as even a human eye can barely see it. Are you with me ? Or is it again too much for your brain to process. Criticising incompetence of a committee comprising of different individuals INCLUDING RELIGIOUS ONE’s doesn’t make me anti-molvi Mr.



Who talking about fawad ? Are you mentally well ? I am comparing the capcities, not the persons. One is a head of Hilal committee , other is a federal minister. The first one is citicising the second one and asking him to “stay away” from religious issues because he criticised his the “incompetence”. ??

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/68828/is-moonsighting-essential

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) encouraged seeking the sighting of the moon. It was narrated that Abu Hurayrah said: The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Fast when you see it and break the fast when you see it, and if it is too cloudy then complete the number (of days) of Sha’baan as thirty.” And it was narrated from ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The month is twenty-nine days, so do not fast until you see it, and if it is cloudy then complete the month as thirty days.” The first hadeeth enjoins fasting the month of Ramadaan when its new moon is sighted or when the month of Sha’baan is completed with thirty days, and it enjoins ending the fast when the new moon of Shawwaal is sighted, or when Ramadaan is completed with thirty days. The second hadeeth forbids fasting Ramadaan before the new moon is sighted or before Sha’baan has been completed if it is cloudy.

Apologies for the harsh language, i thought you were bashing Maulvis which seems to be pretty common.

Fawad Chaudry didn't criticise the committee, he attacked all Maulvis and even said disgusting things like they were against Pakistan.

I fully support Mufti Muneeb in his response to Fawad Chaudry. That fatso lota probably doesn't know that moon sighting is essential and calendars existed at Prophet Muhammad (saww) time too but still moon sighting was made mandatory.

Then again, he's a moron who said those things about Hubble telescope

 

[RealNapster]

I am not against anyone. I just want all those who are wrong or make mistakes to accept them. Yesterday my urdu/Punjabi/Saraiki speaking friends were mocking Pathans of KP saying “Yaar pathano ko suna hy cheezy aik din pehle dik jati hy.... zara wednesday ka paper to nikalwaao popalzai se”. And when i send them the pictures last night, well, everyone make mistakes.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Moon sighting is a religious issue. What the f else would people care about sighting moon if not for religion.

And read the ahadiths on Ramadan. It's clear hwo you're supposed to start Ramadan and end it.

By seeing that moon and even taking pictures of it, you refused to follow Sunnah and follow Fawad Chaudry instead.

Perhaps if instead of bashing Maulvis all day, you actually bothered to learn Islam rather than follow Fawad, you'd know that you didn't fast out of your arrogant ignorance.

Remember Sunnah is greater than Fawad and Muneeb. You should've gone to the Masjid and gave Shahah and shown them the picture instead of pledged allegiance to government or Fawad Chaudry.

Also shows how fucked up the government is that they refused testimony of KPK people and call them liars.

Just because Mufti Muneeb is rejecting testimony doesn't mean we need Fawad Chaudry to give us calendars. He can shove that calendar up his....Mufti Muneeb isn't the only Maulvi in Pakistan

Leave it to the weather department

I am not against anyone. I just want all those who are wrong or make mistakes to accept them. Yesterday my urdu/Punjabi/Saraiki speaking friends were mocking Pathans of KP saying “Yaar pathano ko suna hy cheezy aik din pehle dik jati hy.... zara wednesday ka paper to nikalwaao popalzai se”. And when i send them the pictures last night, well, everyone make mistakes.

You may not be, but I am. This is not the job of someone that has no knowledge abt how the moon works. This is the job of the weather department.