MTCR benefit: India, Russia to develop 600-km range cruise missiles that can cover entire Pakistan

[The Huskar]

MTCR benefit: India, Russia to develop 600-km range cruise missiles that can cover entire Pakistan
By Dipanjan Roy Chaudhury & Manu Pubby, ET Bureau | Updated: 19 Oct, 2016, 07:51 hrs IST

• India's offensive capacity, especially against Pakistan, is set to take a huge step forward with New Delhi andMoscow deciding to jointly develop a new generation of Brahmos missiles with 600 km-plus range and an ability to hit protected targets with pinpoint accuracy.
  
  This range enables these missiles to strike anywhere within Pakistan. That Russia can work with India to produce these missiles is thanks to New Delhi joining the Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR) in June this year.
  
  MTCR guidelines prohibit its members from transfer, sale or joint production of missiles beyond 300-km range with countries outside the club.
  
  
  
  
  
  Brahmos' current range is 300 km, which makes it difficult to hit targets deep inside Pakistan. India has ballistic missiles with longer range than the next generation Brahmos. But Brahmos' ability to take down specific targets, even well-protected ones, makes it a potential game changer in any conflict with Pakistan. Ballistic missiles are powered for the initial half of their flight path and they use gravity to complete their trajectory. But cruise missiles are powered throughout.
• similar to a pilot-less fighter jet that can be maneuvered in flight, programmed to attack targets from any angle and evade enemy missile defence systems. Brahmos can, for example, take down terror camps or hideouts even in mountain areas, where natural protection makes any other offensive action, bar crossing the border, ineffective.
  
  The Indo-Russian agreement, signed during the bilateral summit at Goa, also includes development of missiles with smaller range that can be fired from submarines and aircraft. The deal was not made public at the summit — where other projects like sale of frigates and the S-400 air defence system purchase — were announced. Vladimir Putin told journalists from his country that the missile deal has also been signed. "We have also agreed to improve the Brahmos missile, which will be land, air and sea launched. We will also work to increase its range. And we will work together on a fifth-generation aircraft," Putin said, without sharing details.
  
  ET spoke with several senior Indian officials involved in negotiations. They confirmed that a pact to double the range of the Brahmos missile was finalised. These officials spoke on the condition they not be identified. They also said producing longer-range Brahmos will not be tough because no fundamental reworking is involved in increasing the range. India, post its MTCR membership, is also pursuing export options for its 300-km range Brahmos. Vietnam has expressed interest in the missile system.

 

[TylerDurden07]

i came here to post this good news . hehehe

 

[B2B]

So the cat is out of the bag

This was already known to most that BRAHMOS Block III has a range in that vicinity. An indirect acknowledgement of the same was done by China when they published concern about those new deployments by India in the NE.

These is also a news report in the Russian Media ( probably vedmosti ) about the second akula class being leased and agreement signed to that effect.

 

[newindiandefence]

Beyond 600 km cruise missile with Mk 4 speed and pin point accuracy .

This would be killer

 

[xyxmt]

super power awakens

 

[dani958]

israel have 1500 km range cruise missle from launch from sub

 

[WhyCry]

israel have 1500 km range cruise missle from launch from sub

Which one?

Pakistan has strategic depth where they can run away in afganistan to run a conter offensive.

 

[dani958]

popay turbo slcm

Popeye Turbo Submarine Launched Cruise Missile[edit]
Main articles: submarine-launched cruise missile, Nuclear triad, and Second strike
Popeye Turbo SLCM—A reportedly stretched version of the Popeye Turbo developed for use as a submarine-launched cruise missile (SLCM) was widely reported in a US Navy observed 2002 test in the Indian Ocean to have hit a target at 1500 km. It can allegedly carry a 200 kt nuclear warhead. It is believed that the stretched Popeye Turbo is the primary strategic second strike nuclear deterrent weapon that can be fired from the 650 mm secondary torpedo tubes of the Israeli Dolphin-class submarines.[1] It is believed that the SLCM version of the Popeye was developed by Israel after the US Clinton administration refused an Israeli request in 2000 to purchase Tomahawk long range SLCM's because of international MTCR proliferation rules.[7] While the standard Popeye is 533 mm theDolphin class submarines have four 650 mm torpedo tubes in addition to the six standard 533 mm tubes allowing for the possibility that a SLCM Popeye derivative may be a larger diameter.[8]

Overview[edit]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popeye_(missile)#Popeye_Turbo_Submarine_Launched_Cruise_Missile
i think its 200 kg warhead and not 200 kt or maybe its the same dont know

 

[B2B]

@dani958 the difference is we have the work done on this BRAHMOS project already. Looking at alternatives like popeye or Kalibr is a different question rather than a replacement of Brahmos with extended range.

 

[dani958]

@dani958 the difference is we have the work done on this BRAHMOS project already. Looking at alternatives like popeye or Kalibr is a different question rather than a replacement of Brahmos with extended range.

popay is old from 2002 usa buy from us 200 of this

popay is old from 2002 usa buy from us 200 of this

india have popay im not sure if this virsion its good from submrine nuclear strike

@dani958 the difference is we have the work done on this BRAHMOS project already. Looking at alternatives like popeye or Kalibr is a different question rather than a replacement of Brahmos with extended range.

you dont need to replace

 

[Rupeshkumar]

The existing range of Brahmos has got enough range to cause significant damage to most meaningful parts of pakistan. The range increase is needed to cover bit more of China...

 

[dani958]

The existing range of Brahmos has got enough range to cause significant damage to most meaningful parts of pakistan. The range increase is needed to cover bit more of China...

you need mega ton warhead

 

[GiG]

MTCR benefit: India, Russia to develop 600-km range cruise missiles that can cover entire Pakistan
By Dipanjan Roy Chaudhury & Manu Pubby, ET Bureau | Updated: 19 Oct, 2016, 07:51 hrs IST

• India's offensive capacity, especially against Pakistan, is set to take a huge step forward with New Delhi andMoscow deciding to jointly develop a new generation of Brahmos missiles with 600 km-plus range and an ability to hit protected targets with pinpoint accuracy.
  
  This range enables these missiles to strike anywhere within Pakistan. That Russia can work with India to produce these missiles is thanks to New Delhi joining the Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR) in June this year.
  
  MTCR guidelines prohibit its members from transfer, sale or joint production of missiles beyond 300-km range with countries outside the club.
  
  
  
  
  
  Brahmos' current range is 300 km, which makes it difficult to hit targets deep inside Pakistan. India has ballistic missiles with longer range than the next generation Brahmos. But Brahmos' ability to take down specific targets, even well-protected ones, makes it a potential game changer in any conflict with Pakistan. Ballistic missiles are powered for the initial half of their flight path and they use gravity to complete their trajectory. But cruise missiles are powered throughout.
• similar to a pilot-less fighter jet that can be maneuvered in flight, programmed to attack targets from any angle and evade enemy missile defence systems. Brahmos can, for example, take down terror camps or hideouts even in mountain areas, where natural protection makes any other offensive action, bar crossing the border, ineffective.
  
  The Indo-Russian agreement, signed during the bilateral summit at Goa, also includes development of missiles with smaller range that can be fired from submarines and aircraft. The deal was not made public at the summit — where other projects like sale of frigates and the S-400 air defence system purchase — were announced. Vladimir Putin told journalists from his country that the missile deal has also been signed. "We have also agreed to improve the Brahmos missile, which will be land, air and sea launched. We will also work to increase its range. And we will work together on a fifth-generation aircraft," Putin said, without sharing details.
  
  ET spoke with several senior Indian officials involved in negotiations. They confirmed that a pact to double the range of the Brahmos missile was finalised. These officials spoke on the condition they not be identified. They also said producing longer-range Brahmos will not be tough because no fundamental reworking is involved in increasing the range. India, post its MTCR membership, is also pursuing export options for its 300-km range Brahmos. Vietnam has expressed interest in the missile system.

This simply proves that India don't have the technological capability of developing there indigenous defense product the news is a bit of shame for 1.2 billion Indians in comparison Pakistan has developed and operating 500 km + range cruise missile since 2005

 

[dani958]

This simply proves that India don't have the technological capability of developing there indigenous defense product the news is a bit of shame for 1.2 billion Indians in comparison Pakistan has developed and operating 500 km + range cruise missile since 2005

its need big nuclear warhead

 

[Śakra]

This simply proves that India don't have the technological capability of developing there indigenous defense product the news is a bit of shame for 1.2 billion Indians in comparison Pakistan has developed and operating 500 km + range cruise missile since 2005

lol pakistan can't even make a 2-stroke engine and you are calling us technologically incapable??