More Video Proof- Security cameras and barbed wire: Living amid fear and oppression in Xinjiang

[Imran Khan]

fock USA

 

[Mamadouso]

Exactly what are you agreeing with him on?
Have you seen US media reports on Kashmir, have you seen US govt reports on India's Human rights. A free Press naturally will concentrate on matters that affect the domestic environment. At least our Press writes about the world, can you tell us which Press you think is the standard?

The European press is the World’s fairest. The EU Parliament was much clearer in condemning abuses in Kashmir and the Rohingya. Unfortunately due to prevalance of a myriad of lobby group in US, this kind of forthright condemnation of abuses only seems to come against certain countries that are useful for US.

 

[Foggy_Bottom]

The European press is the World’s fairest. The EU Parliament was much clearer in condemning abuses in Kashmir and the Rohingya. Unfortunately due to prevalance of a myriad of lobby group in US, this kind of forthright condemnation of abuses only seems to come against certain countries that are useful for US.

The EU parliament? Are you not aware that a free press is not a 'Parliament'?

The meaning of free press means being unattached from the government. We are talking about a Free press and you have moved to some personal causes

 

[Mamadouso]

The EU parliament? Are you not aware that a free press is not a 'Parliament'? The meaning of free press means unattached from the government. We are talking about a Free press and you have gone and...

I meant EU Parliament acting in conjunction with EU press. It is much more balanced and superior to US. I feel the US press is too influenced by the lobbyists in US politics, they are able to influence - some issues are deliberately suppressed.

The Gulf Countries/Israel get a free pass, but abuses in Venezuela etc are magnified.

 

[beijingwalker]

EU is always much less hostile towards China than US is, we have largely pretty good relations with EU and its members.

 

[suresh1773]

The European press is the World’s fairest. The EU Parliament was much clearer in condemning abuses in Kashmir and the Rohingya. .

What about Pakistan, are there no abuses

 

[Foggy_Bottom]

I meant EU Parliament acting in conjunction with EU press. It is much more balanced and superior to US. I feel the US press is too influenced by the lobbyists in US politics, they are able to influence - some issues are deliberately suppressed.

The Gulf Countries/Israel get a free pass, but abuses in Venezuela etc are magnified.

EU parliament working in conjunction with the press, would not be called a free press. It would be like the Chinese media. The EU press is a free press. Sure they pick up topics of interest but they overwhelmingly do it as a free press.

You feel the US press is beholden to the lobbyists? Okay, tell us what pet issues are suppressed in the US free media due to lobbyists. Remember now we have a large, vibrant free press.

 

[Menthol]

I think China need to sponsor terrorism in USA soils.

At the same time complaining that CIA, NSA and FBI are too involved in keeping the country safe.

USA is a very funny country.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

The truth will come out, either this being propaganda or it being real. In any scenario, this will have major consequences

 

[beijingwalker]

I think China need to sponsor terrorism in USA soils.

At the same time complaining that CIA, NSA and FBI are too involved in keeping the country safe.

USA is a very funny country.

Does China have to?

Nearly 40,000 People Died From Guns in U.S. Last Year, Highest in 50 Years
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/18/us/gun-deaths.html

 

[Foggy_Bottom]

I think China need to sponsor terrorism in USA soils.

At the same time complaining that CIA, NSA and FBI are too involved in keeping the country safe.

USA is a very funny country.

Does China have to?

Nearly 40,000 People Died From Guns in U.S. Last Year, Highest in 50 Years
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/18/us/gun-deaths.html

While mocking our deaths. You know you hold the world record for killing your own right? You also know that you are known for censoring and obfuscating the counts of your dead when disaster strikes. And you know crime rates are severely under-reported https://world.wng.org/2018/10/the_puzzle_of_china_s_low_crime_rates

 

[beijingwalker]

While mocking our deaths. You know you hold the world record for killing your own right? You also know that you are known for censoring and obfuscating the counts of your dead when disaster strikes.

I don't know, what is killing? intentionally designed to take people's lives, that's what happens on the US street everyday.

 

[Feng Leng]

You feel the US press is beholden to the lobbyists? Okay, tell us what pet issues are suppressed in the US free media due to lobbyists. Remember now we have a large, vibrant free press.

LOL when was the last time somebody criticized Zionism in your "free press"?

What happens when a journalist publishes some embarassing "leaks" from a government email server?

Xinjiang, China (CNN) https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/08/asia/uyghur-xinjiang-china-kashgar-intl/index.html

The small bedroom is frozen in time. The two little girls who used to sleep here left two years ago with their mother and now can't come home.

Their backpacks and school notebooks sit waiting for their return. A toy bear lies on the bed. Their clothes hang neatly in the closet.

The girls' grandmother says she can't bring herself to change it.
"The clothes still smell like them," she says, her words barely audible through heavy sobs.
Ansila Esten and Nursila Esten, ages 8 and 7, left their home in Almaty, Kazakhstan, with their mother, Adiba Hayrat, in 2017.

The three traveled to China where Adiba Hayrat planned to take a course in makeup application and visit her parents in the western border region of Xinjiang, leaving her husband, Esten Erbol, and then 9-month-old son Nurmeken behind in Kazakhstan, Esten told CNN.

Not long after she arrived, however, her husband says she was detained. He hasn't heard from her for more than two years.
"My son wasn't even 1 when she left," Esten Erbol said. "When he sees young women in the neighborhood, he calls them mama. He doesn't know what his own mother looks like."


diba Hayrat and her two daughters are Chinese citizens, of Kazakh minority descent. She grew up in China, as did their daughters. Their young son was born in Almaty.
The family was in the process of becoming citizens of Kazakstan when Esten Erbol says Adiba Hayrat was taken by Chinese authorities.

Her family in Kazakhstan says she was held in a detention camp in Xinjiang for more than a year, while her children were sent to live with distant relatives.

She has since been released, according to her family. But they say Adiba Hayrat is now living with her parents and working in a forced labor facility, earning pitiful wages, unable to contact her family in Kazakhstan for fear of being sent back into detention.
According to the US State Department, up to 2 million Uyghurs, Kazakhs, Kyrgyzs and other predominantly Muslim ethnic minorities have been held against their will in massive camps in Xinjiang.

An unknown number are working in what rights groups have described as forced labor facilities, and like Adiba, they are unable to leave China.

'My wife is not a terrorist'
Activists and former detainees allege the Xinjiang internment camps were built rapidly over the last three years, the latest stage in an ongoing and widespread crackdown against ethnic minorities in the region.

Allegations of torture inside the camps are rampant, including in accounts given to CNN by former detainees. The Chinese government has faced a rising tide of international criticism over its Xinjiang policies, including from the United States.

Critics claim the camps are Beijing's attempt to eliminate the region's Islamic cultural and religious traditions -- a process of sinicization, by which ethnic minorities are forcibly assimilated into wider majority Han Chinese culture.

Beijing denies any allegations of torture or political indoctrination, and says the camps are "vocational training centers" designed to fight terrorism.

Even if you buy that explanation, Esten Erbol said, it wouldn't apply to his wife. "My wife is not a terrorist," he said.

[contd]....

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/08/asia/uyghur-xinjiang-china-kashgar-intl/index.html

Xinjiang is peaceful now. Uighurs are now grateful for Beijing's reassertion of authority. Terrorism is being crushed.

 

[Foggy_Bottom]

LOL when was the last time somebody criticized Zionism in your "free press"?

What happens when a journalist publishes some embarassing "leaks" from a government email server?

Xinjiang is peaceful now. Uighurs are now grateful for Beijing's reassertion of authority. Terrorism is being crushed.

They are plenty who criticize Isreal (the world's most significant NY times does it frequently), even members of Congress and they do not get thrown in torture camps as in China.

We have journalists, thank you for acknowledging, and that they publish leaks that embarrass the government in our free press. You do not, and nothing happens to the ones who do in the US. The US free press has brought down a Presidency (Pentagon papers) and has got several Presidents in trouble. Our people and their minds can withstand negative news. It is evident that Chinese people are not trusted by their government to consume or have access to all sources. Says a lot about what they think of your intellect Feng.

 

[OIO]

They are plenty who criticize Isreal (the world's most significant NY times does it frequently), even members of Congress and they do not get thrown in torture camps as in China.

We have journalists, thank you for acknowledging, and that they publish leaks that embarrass the government in our free press. You do not, and nothing happens to the ones who do in the US. The US free press has brought down a Presidency (Pentagon papers) and has got several Presidents in trouble. Our people and their minds can withstand negative news. It is evident that Chinese people are not trusted by their government to consume or have access to all sources. Says a lot about what they think of your intellect Feng.

no free press at all, controlled by capital or by gov, that's the diff.