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CAIRO — Resignations rocked the government of President Mohamed Morsi on Thursday as tanks from the special presidential guard took up positions around his palace and the state television headquarters after a night of street fighting between his Islamist supporters and their secular opponents that left at least 6 dead and 450 wounded.

The director of state broadcasting resigned Thursday, as did Rafik Habib, a Christian who was the vice president of the Muslim Brotherhood’s Freedom and Justice Party and the party’s favorite example of its commitment to tolerance and pluralism. Their departures followed an announcement by Zaghoul el-Balshi, the new general secretary of the commission overseeing a planned constitutional referendum, that he was quitting. “I will not participate in a referendum that spilled Egyptian blood,” he said in a television interview during the clashes late Wednesday night.

With the resignations on Thursday, nine Morsi administration officials have quit in protest in recent days. In a day of tension and uncertainty unlike any other since the revolt that overthrew Hosni Mubarak nearly two years ago, state media reported that Mr. Morsi, of the Muslim Brotherhood’s political arm, was meeting with his top advisers and would deliver a public address in response to the clashes. The top scholar of Al Azhar, the center of Sunni Muslim learning that is considered Egypt’s chief moral authority, urged both sides to pull back from violence and seek “rational dialogue.”

The scale of the violence around the palace has raised the first doubts about Mr. Morsi’s effort to hold a public referendum on Dec. 15 to vote on a draft constitution approved by his Islamist allies over the objections of his secular opposition and the Coptic Christian Church.

About 1 p.m. Thursday, hundreds of his supporters who had camped outside his palace to defend it — many waking up with bandaged heads from wounds sustained from volleys of rocks and the blows of makeshift clubs the previous night — abruptly began to pull out of their encampment in unison, a development that suggested that their organizers in the Muslim Brotherhood had ordered a withdrawal. It took place just moments after several Brotherhood members camped there had vowed to stay put until the referendum, set for Dec. 15.

The Egyptian military, which seized power from Mr. Mubarak in February 2011, saying it was stepping in to protect the legitimate demands of the public, stayed silent after a statement Wednesday that it would not intervene in a dispute between political factions. The presidential guard that deployed Thursday is a separate unit that reports directly to the president.

Wednesday night’s battle was the worst clash between political factions here since the days of President Gamal Abdel Nasser’s military coup six decades ago, and Egyptians across the political spectrum responded with shock and dismay.

Abdel Moneim Aboul Fotouh, a popular former leader of the Muslim Brotherhood who ran for president as a liberal Islamist and has stayed on the sidelines of the escalating conflict between Mr. Morsi and his secular opponents, slammed the president and the Brotherhood for calling on their civilian supporters to defend the palace with force rather than relying the institutions of law enforcement.

“The palace is not a private property to the Muslim Brotherhood or Dr. Morsi; it belongs to us, all Egyptians,” Mr. Aboul Fotouh said in a televised news conference. He was flanked by a Morsi adviser who had just resigned and by a well-known revolutionary poet who is the son of Sheik Yusuf al-Qaradawi, perhaps the most influential religious scholar in the Sunni Muslim world and a spiritual guru to the Muslim Brotherhood.

Wednesday night’s clashes followed two weeks of sporadic violence around the country that erupted after Mr. Morsi, a former leader of the Muslim Brotherhood movement, seized temporary powers beyond the review of any court, removing the last check on his authority until ratification of the new constitution.

Mr. Morsi has said he needed the expanded powers to block a conspiracy by corrupt businessmen, Mubarak-appointed judges and opposition leaders to thwart Egypt’s transition to a constitutional democracy. Some opponents, Mr. Morsi’s advisers say, would sacrifice democracy to stop the Islamists from winning elections.

Mr. Morsi’s secular critics have accused Mr. Morsi and the Islamists of seeking to establish a new dictatorship, in part by ramming through a rushed constitution that they say could ultimately give new power over society to Muslim scholars and Islamists groups. And each side’s actions have confirmed the other’s fears.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/07/world/middleeast/egypt-islamists-secular-opponents-clashes.html

Deploying TANKS against your OWN people! ... crazy mullah backers
 
Morsi should not back down

The opposition having failed at the ballot box now thinks they can cause chaos and get their way in colusion with the mubarak era judges
 
Morsi should not back down

The opposition having failed at the ballot box now thinks they can cause chaos and get their way in colusion with the mubarak era judges

Question: To you wanna be Islamist radicals, and I say wanna be because you hide in christian Judea countries that are democratic, peaceful while wishing turmoil and " Islamist laws " on others

---- how come you guys always advocate for terror/ or Tanks as means of controlling your people?

Most importantly as evidence of your double standards: if western country pushed laws about Burkhas or Mosques , you come out like hollowing victims. But have no problems if your people push Islamist radical takeover of laws on the minority or in the case of Egypt 49% of the people.
 
Kinda sad as I notice- Not a word from the ones who jump on every Israel or US is evil thread. Not a word from the very many " keepers of all things Muslims worldwide"... you have nothing to say when one of yours subjugates your fellow Muslims to yet another dictatorial edict.

And I would appreciate the moderate Muslims here to post. Post your thoughts why being " Muslim" is no different than being any human which wants to be treated with dignity by this ruling class. educate the radicals ...I never shy way from doing so among those who share my heritage.
 
Kind sad as I notice- Not a word from the ones who jump on every Israel or US is evil thread. Not a word from the very many " keepers of all things Muslims worldwide"... you have nothing to say when one of yours subjugates your fellow Muslims to yet another dictatorial edict.

And I would appreciate the moderate Muslims here to post. Post your thoughts why being " Muslim" is no different than being any human which wants to be treated with dignity by this ruling class. educate the radicals ...I never shy way from doing so among those who share my heritage.

I don't know if you've noticed but we are in a forum where people praise Jihad on a daily basis. 40000 dead Syrian Muslims does not stir the emotions of people here as much as a fat Palestinian woman posing for a photoshoot does and you think they mind Sharia law in Egypt? Do they mind Muslims being killed by other Muslims? No.

They care only when non-Muslims kill Muslims, mostly.
 
Question: To you wanna be Islamist radicals, and I say wanna be because you hide in christian Judea countries that are democratic, peaceful while wishing turmoil and " Islamist laws " on others

---- how come you guys always advocate for terror/ or Tanks as means of controlling your people?

Most importantly as evidence of your double standards: if western country pushed laws about Burkhas or Mosques , you come out like hollowing victims. But have no problems if your people push Islamist radical takeover of laws on the minority or in the case of Egypt 49% of the people.

if he should behave as western liberal advocate then would you expect indians to behave as islamic advocates working in the middle east?
 
I don't know if you've noticed but we are in a forum where people praise Jihad on a daily basis. 40000 dead Syrian Muslims does not stir the emotions of people here as much as a fat Palestinian woman posing for a photoshoot does and you think they mind Sharia law in Egypt? Do they mind Muslims being killed by other Muslims? No.

They care only when non-Muslims kill Muslims, mostly.

well we have to be appreciative of the administration here on PDF that allows us the platform. So some do care... but yes, majority here are radical only because of under educated views.
 
[:::~Spartacus~:::];3675084 said:
if he should behave as western liberal advocate then would you expect indians to behave as islamic advocates working in the middle east?

YOU make absolutely no sense. Is it Islamic to unleash tanks on your people? You just said above, no question about it- that him behaving by unleashing tanks in a city on his people, is ISLAMIC.

Its not western or liberal to advocate not to be a ruthless dictator and unleash tanks on your own people in the middle of city on protesters.

would you accept if ZADARI unleashed tanks in Karachi when a protest took place? or allow ZADARI to take over PAKISTAN'S constitution and call him himself the supreme decider of your constitution.
 
YOU make absolutely no sense. Is it Islamic to unleash tanks on your people? You just said above, no question about it- that him behaving by unleashing tanks in a city on his people, is ISLAMIC.

Its not western or liberal to advocate not to be a ruthless dictator and unleash tanks on your own people in the middle of city on protesters.

would you accept if ZADARI unleashed tanks in Karachi when a protest took place? or allow ZADARI to take over PAKISTAN'S constitution and call him himself the supreme decider of your constitution.

my simple question was that you talked about islamist and his support to islamists

again the protestors are making violant protests, so things are getting out of hand and thus the matter of necessity

but you didnt answer my questions, you said how can he support the islamists takingover the country meaning just because he lives in the west, he shouldnt, then here my question arises that will the indians support and behave like islamists in saudi arab and support their moves or not

not to mention how indians have supports the burka ban time and time again

you continuously fail to answer me on this individual point sir
 
Morsi should not back down

The opposition having failed at the ballot box now thinks they can cause chaos and get their way in colusion with the mubarak era judges
can you please speak in what you know they came and attacked us while we were peaceful protesters. this are who you are defending
 
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Every one is hungry for power...So it just that Islam is a very quick and cheap way to acheive way goals in middle east...Otherwise...rest remains same....
 
[:::~Spartacus~:::];3675108 said:
my simple question was that you talked about islamist and his support to islamists

again the protestors are making violant protests, so things are getting out of hand and thus the matter of necessity

but you didnt answer my questions, you said how can he support the islamists takingover the country meaning just because he lives in the west, he shouldnt, then here my question arises that will the indians support and behave like islamists in saudi arab and support their moves or not

not to mention how indians have supports the burka ban time and time again

you continuously fail to answer me on this individual point sir

Can anyone help me with his post above.

I read it multiple times and respectfully I can't decipher the intent. English is not his first, second or third language apparently, which is cool ( no disrespect about that). And that is NOT AN ISSUE...rather, I ask because- I can't comprehend his intent.

Is he saying because they protest. hence they deserve tanks set upon them?
 
Look at Egypt becoming the next fxxk-up place in mid-east. Those islam fanatics, a.k.a, muslim brotherhood and its associates, want to turn Egypt into a sharia shxt-hole. Well, it is not far from a shxt-hole already now.

Those idiots also want to destroy the pyramids since it is not representing islam god. What the fxxk do those idiots think they are???

Pyramids was thousands years older before their so-called god. The earlier Egyptians have created a civilization those fanatics cannot match at all even they dream for another thousand year.

I hope the Egypt military put down those fanatics once for all. Just get Egypt back into a secular society and come back onto modern civilization. Do not go back to the dark age of idiocy.
 

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