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Moon landing gets timetable - People's Daily OnlineSeptember 20, 2010

The timetable for China's first manned moon landing, as well as the launch of a space station, lab and probes to explore Mars and Venus, was announced by scientists over the weekend.

Chinese analysts, however, dismissed international concerns that Beijing is engaging in an outer-space arms race, stressing that recent activities and future missions are for scientific purposes and for the benefit of mankind.

In a visit to the country's space base in Xi'an, Shaanxi Province, Saturday, Yang Liwei, China's first astronaut to voyage beyond the planet's atmosphere in 2003, revealed plans to launch the country's first unmanned space laboratory, Tiangong-1, next year, which is expected to accomplish the country's first unmanned docking with Shenzhou-8, a crucial step toward building a space station.

Both the manned spacecraft Shenzhou-9 and the unmanned Shenzhou-10 will be launched in 2012 to dock with the Tiangong space laboratory, and by around 2020 China will launch its first orbital space station, Yang said.

Meanwhile, at an aerospace engineering forum Thursday, Ye Peijian, Commander in Chief of the Chang'e Program and an academic at the Chinese Academy of Sciences, said China's lunar-probe program, the country's first step toward deep-space exploration, is expected to orbit the moon, land and return to Earth by 2020.

Ye proposed that China launch its first manned moon landing in 2025, a probe to Mars by 2013 and to Venus by 2015.

"China has the full capacity to accomplish Mars exploration by 2013," Ye said.

Earlier this month, Wu Weiren, the chief engineer overseeing China's lunar exploration program, also revealed that work on the Chang'e-2 lunar orbiter had entered the pre-launch testing stage and it would make its first trial flight before the end of the year.

Chang'e-2 will carry out a soft-landing test in preparation for the launch of Chang'e-3, which is scheduled for 2013.

The Chang'e Project is named after a Chinese legend of a goddess who took a magic elixir and flew to the moon.

Space-program officials had said previously that the Chang'e-2 mission would be launched in October around the Mid Autumn Festival, dedicated to the Moon Goddess, Chang'e, but no precise date has been given.

Ouyang Ziyuan, chief scientist of China's lunar orbiter project, told the Global Times that China's plan to launch an orbital space station by around 2020 is achievable, based on aerospace technology development and the success of future manned missions.

China's space program will pose great challenges to scientists and technicians, Ouyang said, adding that the space station will be quite small in size compared with the International Space Station, a joint collaboration between 16 countries, including the US and Russia.

Huang Hai, a professor at the Beijing University of Aeronautics and Astronautics (BUAA), told the Global Times that a space station was vital for future scientific research.

"A space station is a good platform for spacecraft and a research lab. It is the ultimate purpose of manned space technology," Huang said, adding that the cost would vary depending on the size of the station.

"China will build a smaller one, for perhaps 10 to 20 people, which is affordable for one single country," he said.

Arms-race fears


However, China's space program appears to have stoked speculation that it is being used for military surveillance.

"The People's Liberation Army has been working on various forms of space-warfare programs for a long time," Larry Wortzel, vice chairman of the US-China Economic and Security Review Commission, was quoted by US-based Defense News as saying.

Referring to China's recent maneuvers, which reportedly involve rendezvous operations between the Shijian-06F satellite and the more recently launched Shijian-12 craft, Wortzel said the rendezvous might have been part of China's effort to develop space weapons, "or it could be completely innocent, or a combination" of the two. ?

China said the Shijian-12 craft was mainly used for scientific research, environmental monitoring and telecommunications.

Weng Jingnong, a BUAA professor, told the Global Times that the priority of China's space program is to serve civilian purposes, including disaster management and environmental protection. "Given the frequent natural disasters China has experienced in recent years, it is increasingly important to use space technology to monitor extreme weather," he said.Source: Global Times (By Song Shengxia)
 
Chang'e-2 will carry out a soft-landing test in preparation for the launch of Chang'e-3, which is scheduled for 2013.

The Chang'e Project is named after a Chinese legend of a goddess who took a magic elixir and flew to the moon.

Space-program officials had said previously that the Chang'e-2 mission would be launched in October around the Mid Autumn Festival, dedicated to the Moon Goddess, Chang'e, but no precise date has been given.

It's interesting to note that they named it after Chang'e, the Lady on the Moon. :cheers:

They should call the next one the Jade Rabbit. :D

(The Japanese and the Koreans also took/stole the idea of the moon rabbit, except that their rabbits are making sticky rice on the moon... lol).
 
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Moon landing gets timetable - People's Daily OnlineSeptember 20, 2010

The timetable for China's first manned moon landing, as well as the launch of a space station, lab and probes to explore Mars and Venus, was announced by scientists over the weekend.

Chinese analysts, however, dismissed international concerns that Beijing is engaging in an outer-space arms race, stressing that recent activities and future missions are for scientific purposes and for the benefit of mankind.

In a visit to the country's space base in Xi'an, Shaanxi Province, Saturday, Yang Liwei, China's first astronaut to voyage beyond the planet's atmosphere in 2003, revealed plans to launch the country's first unmanned space laboratory, Tiangong-1, next year, which is expected to accomplish the country's first unmanned docking with Shenzhou-8, a crucial step toward building a space station.

Both the manned spacecraft Shenzhou-9 and the unmanned Shenzhou-10 will be launched in 2012 to dock with the Tiangong space laboratory, and by around 2020 China will launch its first orbital space station, Yang said.

Meanwhile, at an aerospace engineering forum Thursday, Ye Peijian, Commander in Chief of the Chang'e Program and an academic at the Chinese Academy of Sciences, said China's lunar-probe program, the country's first step toward deep-space exploration, is expected to orbit the moon, land and return to Earth by 2020.

Ye proposed that China launch its first manned moon landing in 2025, a probe to Mars by 2013 and to Venus by 2015.

"China has the full capacity to accomplish Mars exploration by 2013," Ye said.

Earlier this month, Wu Weiren, the chief engineer overseeing China's lunar exploration program, also revealed that work on the Chang'e-2 lunar orbiter had entered the pre-launch testing stage and it would make its first trial flight before the end of the year.

Chang'e-2 will carry out a soft-landing test in preparation for the launch of Chang'e-3, which is scheduled for 2013.

The Chang'e Project is named after a Chinese legend of a goddess who took a magic elixir and flew to the moon.

Space-program officials had said previously that the Chang'e-2 mission would be launched in October around the Mid Autumn Festival, dedicated to the Moon Goddess, Chang'e, but no precise date has been given.

Ouyang Ziyuan, chief scientist of China's lunar orbiter project, told the Global Times that China's plan to launch an orbital space station by around 2020 is achievable, based on aerospace technology development and the success of future manned missions.

China's space program will pose great challenges to scientists and technicians, Ouyang said, adding that the space station will be quite small in size compared with the International Space Station, a joint collaboration between 16 countries, including the US and Russia.

Huang Hai, a professor at the Beijing University of Aeronautics and Astronautics (BUAA), told the Global Times that a space station was vital for future scientific research.

"A space station is a good platform for spacecraft and a research lab. It is the ultimate purpose of manned space technology," Huang said, adding that the cost would vary depending on the size of the station.

"China will build a smaller one, for perhaps 10 to 20 people, which is affordable for one single country," he said.

Arms-race fears


However, China's space program appears to have stoked speculation that it is being used for military surveillance.

"The People's Liberation Army has been working on various forms of space-warfare programs for a long time," Larry Wortzel, vice chairman of the US-China Economic and Security Review Commission, was quoted by US-based Defense News as saying.

Referring to China's recent maneuvers, which reportedly involve rendezvous operations between the Shijian-06F satellite and the more recently launched Shijian-12 craft, Wortzel said the rendezvous might have been part of China's effort to develop space weapons, "or it could be completely innocent, or a combination" of the two. ?

China said the Shijian-12 craft was mainly used for scientific research, environmental monitoring and telecommunications.

Weng Jingnong, a BUAA professor, told the Global Times that the priority of China's space program is to serve civilian purposes, including disaster management and environmental protection. "Given the frequent natural disasters China has experienced in recent years, it is increasingly important to use space technology to monitor extreme weather," he said.Source: Global Times (By Song Shengxia)

If Obama didn't cancel Project Orion the U.S. and China would probably have a second moon race lol.

I think China should consider sending at least one woman to the Moon on the first mission. Besides achieving a first for the nation's space efforts it will also be a real life fulfillment of the myth of Chang'e.

p.s. I already think that humanity is behind on the exploration of space. If you are a science fiction fan you'd probably read 2010: Odyssey Two by Sir Arthur C. Clarke. In the book there is a race to Europa, the moon of Jupiter between China (Chinese astronauts riding a ship appropriatedly named after Dr. Tsien Hsue Sien) and a joint U.S.-Soviet mission. Ironically the Space Shuttle program was scrapped in real life in the same year :cry:.
 
If Obama didn't cancel Project Orion the U.S. and China would probably have a second moon race lol.

I think China should consider sending at least one woman to the Moon on the first mission. Besides achieving a first for the nation's space efforts it will also be a real life fulfillment of the myth of Chang'e.

p.s. I already think that humanity is behind on the exploration of space. If you are a science fiction fan you'd probably read 2010: Odyssey Two by Sir Arthur C. Clarke. In the book there is a race to Europa, the moon of Jupiter between China (Chinese astronauts riding a ship appropriatedly named after Dr. Tsien Hsue Sien) and a joint U.S.-Soviet mission. Ironically the Space Shuttle program was scrapped in real life in the same year :cry:.

Yes, we should fulfil the story of Chang'e. :yahoo:

Also I wonder what kind of economic benefits we can get from this space race, apart from improved missile technology, and more advanced research capabilities.

For example, Uranus/Neptune are said to have trillions and trillions of tons of diamonds, and the moon has an enormous amount of Uranium. Diamond Oceans Possible on Uranus, Neptune : Discovery News

The problem is, that the cost of sending a craft into space is so high, that it won't give us any economic benefits to ship these things back to Earth.
 
Yes, we should fulfil the story of Chang'e. :yahoo:

Also I wonder what kind of economic benefits we can get from this space race, apart from improved missile technology, and more advanced research capabilities.

For example, Uranus/Neptune are said to have trillions and trillions of tons of diamonds, and the moon has an enormous amount of Uranium. Diamond Oceans Possible on Uranus, Neptune : Discovery News

The problem is, that the cost of sending a craft into space is so high, that it won't give us any economic benefits to ship these things back to Earth.

I would like to say that space exploration is important because of the mineral wealth and blah blah blah but one reason tops them all.

Humanity is not meant to stay in its cradle for ever.

A new space race culminating in colonization of the various bodies of the solar system will be the first time that we, as a species, is going beyond our cradle, Earth. All of our accomplishments will no longer be in a single basket and we can only go, onwards, after we take the initial baby steps.

This is why I think that the first human extraterrestrial colony, regardless of whether it is Chinese, American, Russian, Indian, European... will be a great accomplishment for humanity as a whole.
 
I would like to say that space exploration is important because of the mineral wealth and blah blah blah but one reason tops them all.

Humanity is not meant to stay in its cradle for ever.

A new space race culminating in colonization of the various bodies of the solar system will be the first time that we, as a species, is going beyond our cradle, Earth. All of our accomplishments will no longer be in a single basket and we can only go, onwards, after we take the initial baby steps.

This is why I think that the first human extraterrestrial colony, regardless of whether it is Chinese, American, Russian, Indian, European... will be a great accomplishment for humanity as a whole.

Exactly right buddy. :tup:

Stephen Hawking (the famous Scientist in a wheelchair) has recently said that humanity needs to leave the planet.

It's diversification of risk. If we have a colony on the moon, then even an Earth-destroying event will not wipe out humanity. Earth could get hit by a meteor, destroy itself with nuclear war, etc... and humanity could still survive via our colonies in space.

BBC NEWS | UK | Move to new planet, says Hawking

Hopefully America will be able to sort out it's cash-flow problem soon, and China+USA could do a joint venture in order to move humanity into a new era. :cheers:
 
Yes, we should fulfil the story of Chang'e. :yahoo:

Also I wonder what kind of economic benefits we can get from this space race, apart from improved missile technology, and more advanced research capabilities.

For example, Uranus/Neptune are said to have trillions and trillions of tons of diamonds, and the moon has an enormous amount of Uranium. Diamond Oceans Possible on Uranus, Neptune : Discovery News

The problem is, that the cost of sending a craft into space is so high, that it won't give us any economic benefits to ship these things back to Earth.

But what if the spacecraft fails to liftoff from the moon and she can't get back? That'll REALLY fulfill the story. So on second thought, maybe it's better to just send a man first!
 
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:yahoo::china:
It seems Chang'e-2 will launch duringNational Day holidays.
 
I would like to say that space exploration is important because of the mineral wealth and blah blah blah but one reason tops them all.

Humanity is not meant to stay in its cradle for ever.

A new space race culminating in colonization of the various bodies of the solar system will be the first time that we, as a species, is going beyond our cradle, Earth. All of our accomplishments will no longer be in a single basket and we can only go, onwards, after we take the initial baby steps.

This is why I think that the first human extraterrestrial colony, regardless of whether it is Chinese, American, Russian, Indian, European... will be a great accomplishment for humanity as a whole.

:cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers:
i only hope once man starts living out of earth he doesn't dismiisses earthlings as earthlings:bounce::bounce:
 
If Obama didn't cancel Project Orion the U.S. and China would probably have a second moon race lol.

I think China should consider sending at least one woman to the Moon on the first mission. Besides achieving a first for the nation's space efforts it will also be a real life fulfillment of the myth of Chang'e.

p.s. I already think that humanity is behind on the exploration of space. If you are a science fiction fan you'd probably read 2010: Odyssey Two by Sir Arthur C. Clarke. In the book there is a race to Europa, the moon of Jupiter between China (Chinese astronauts riding a ship appropriatedly named after Dr. Tsien Hsue Sien) and a joint U.S.-Soviet mission. Ironically the Space Shuttle program was scrapped in real life in the same year :cry:.
i support you there.
humanity an science seems to be falling behind the science fiction.
if you have rea any science fiction prior to 20 th centuray you will fin that all people were able to think was giant ballons.
withing 110 yrs we have surpassed all these limitations.:bounce::bounce::bounce:
 
Ye proposed that China launch its first manned moon landing in 2025, a probe to Mars by 2013 and to Venus by 2015.

Doubt that. I don't think we can get man to the moon by 2025. The CZ-5 launch vehicle's first launch will not be earlier than 2014 and its payload is just LEO 25 tons, which is far less than the demand of sending astronauts to moon. Maybe 2030 is a proper time point. We need to develop bigger rocket engines and launch vehicles after completing the development of CZ-5.

Space-program officials had said previously that the Chang'e-2 mission would be launched in October around the Mid Autumn Festival, dedicated to the Moon Goddess, Chang'e, but no precise date has been given

Yaogan-11 has been sent into the launching site. Perhaps we can see its launch before the launch of Chang'e-2. Let me calculate....hmmmm.. Maybe we can launch 15+ rockets this year.:agree:
 
space race with america....??? DONT EVEN THINK ABOUT THAT

do anyone here know americans space explorer Voyager 1 and Voyager 2 will be the first man made machine leave the solar system, enter Kuiper belt?

do u guys have any idea how fxxking awesome it is?
:devil:

Yepp it sounds pretty awesome! Huge leap space exploration. :yahoo:

Hey maybe they'll bring them democracy too! I came, I saw, I conquered then called it bringing democracy!
 
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