MoD calls for fresh Army gun bids

[Zarvan]

Pune: The Ministry of Defence has initiated a fresh move for acquisition of close quarters battle (CQB) carbine guns for the Indian Army after a previous deal with an Israeli firm had to be called off last year because it involved a single vendor.

A senior MoD official, associated with the development, told TOI over phone that a request for information about the weapon was issued recently.

"A Request For Information (RFI), relating to CQB carbine guns of 5.56 calibre, with a minimum striking range of 200 metres, was issued a few days ago. It sought offers from global as well as Indian vendors," the official said.

The Indian Army is currently using submachine guns of 9mm calibre that, experts point out, have not been effective in striking targets beyond a range of just 50 metres.

"The defence ministry had to cancel an earlier deal as it involved only one firm from Israel. As per norms, multiple players are required to submit competitive bids for fair selection," the MoD official said.

According to the MoD source, the Army requires nearly 4 lakh CQB-effective carbines out of which the immediate requirement is for nearly 83,000 CQB guns.

A senior infantry officer, with extensive operational experience in the Jammu and Kashmir region, said the current weapon lacks accuracy beyond a range of 50 metres. "The current carbine also has several other problems, including jams while firing. The need is for a competent and reliable carbine gun, which is also easy and comfortable to use," the officer said.


He continued: "The carbine is extensively used by the Indian Army for house clearing. Instances of firefights in close quarters are high in these situations. For example, in the Kashmir valley, terrorists are often holed up inside buildings. In such situations, one cannot afford to have an unreliable weapon."




Another infantry officer said submachine guns made by Italian firearms manufacturer Beretta, and procured for the Border Security Force, had been proving effective. "This gun has delivered the desired results for the BSF. Similarly, the government should procure a new carbine gun for the Army at the earliest," the officer said.



The Indian Army operates on some of the most difficult terrain in the world and personnel have reported firearm malfunctions, including jams, due to dust and weather. Weapon reliability then, is one of the foremost requirements of the troops.




The Army also wants the new gun to be upgradable. This requirement would mean the weapon platform should be able to include several types of modern sights and accessories. Most of today's modern armies use weapons that can be fitted with night-vision and targeting accessories, including enhanced sights.





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[#hydra#]

No one should take part this mockery. Mod is not serious about its bids .

 

[Papa Dragon]

Calibre: 5.56 mm (5.56 x 30 mm ammunition)

Length of Weapon – (a) Butt Folded: 575 mm

– (b) Butt Extended: 800 mm

Weight – Weapon (without Magazine): 2.95 kg

Weight – Magazine (empty): 80 gms

Weight - Cartridge: 8.0 gms

Effective Range: 200 m

Rate of Fire: 700 rpm

Sight Radius: 420 mm

Feed: 30 rd Box Magazine

Operation: Gas operated

Mode of Fire: Single & Auto

Mechanism: Rotary bolt. Closed Breech

Rifling: 6 Groves, 1 : 200mm

Sight:

1. Open Sight
2. Reflex Sight

Muzzle velocity: 700 m/sec

Safety

1. Applied
2. Mechanical

Barrel :
Length of Barrel: 330 mm
Bore Diameter H – 5.612 mm L – 5.577 mm
Number of Rifling Grooves: 6
Twist of Rifling Grooves: Right Hand
Lead of Rifling Grooves: 1 Turn in 200 mm
MSMC

Instead of the OFB going for these tenders which may take forever to select a weapon and with the corruption involved, it is better to go with the Amogh Carbine or the MSMC which went through extensive user trails and proven effective. IA should stop procuring foreign ARs at any cost except for special forces and maybe the production of these indigenous rifles could be given to a private Indian defense firm for better quality

 

[Tshering22]

I really hope that they open licenses for assault rifles for private Indian firms.

Or make OFB public entity with shares in the stock market.

Just do it man!

 

[axisofevil]

I think Modi should try to market the defense market as an entrepreneurial opportunity better.

 

[MagicMarker]

I think Modi should try to market the defense market as an entrepreneurial opportunity better.

Take it from someone in the defense market, it SUCKS. Its the fastest way to become a millionaire, IF you are a billionaire when you started out.

Only those will unlimited money and unlimited time can survive in this market. No chance in hell for any entrepreneur here unless he is Ambani. Even then he will loose money faster than he can make it.

 

[Tshering22]

Take it from someone in the defense market, it SUCKS. Its the fastest way to become a millionaire, IF you are a billionaire when you started out.

Only those will unlimited money and unlimited time can survive in this market. No chance in hell for any entrepreneur here unless he is Ambani. Even then he will loose money faster than he can make it.

With the defence forces generals keen on fat commissions to be considered and their option to say 'no' to even good indigenous products means that we will never be free from phoren maal.

Proven indigenous products must be tested through surprise selection of test candidates from the different units of the armed forces and be anonymously made to test the products. If they do well, they should be inducted right away. Shove it down the generals', admirals' and marshals' throats if needed.

 

[axisofevil]

Take it from someone in the defense market, it SUCKS. Its the fastest way to become a millionaire, IF you are a billionaire when you started out.

Only those will unlimited money and unlimited time can survive in this market. No chance in hell for any entrepreneur here unless he is Ambani. Even then he will loose money faster than he can make it.

Forget big ticket, big money items.... focus on the smaller tickets that cannprofoundly change our armed forces.... there is still loneybto be made there... i.e. Better uniforms with build in knee pads, scopes and optica, good multi purpose knices for every soldier, better grenades, food , futuristic first aid kits that include immediate clotting factors etc

 

[axisofevil]

With the defence forces generals keen on fat commissions to be considered and their option to say 'no' to even good indigenous products means that we will never be free from phoren maal.

Proven indigenous products must be tested through surprise selection of test candidates from the different units of the armed forces and be anonymously made to test the products. If they do well, they should be inducted right away. Shove it down the generals', admirals' and marshals' throats if needed.

Hey bro do you know where the PMs address where you can email him ideas and he actually reads it and act so such

 

[MagicMarker]

With the defence forces generals keen on fat commissions to be considered and their option to say 'no' to even good indigenous products means that we will never be free from phoren maal.

Proven indigenous products must be tested through surprise selection of test candidates from the different units of the armed forces and be anonymously made to test the products. If they do well, they should be inducted right away. Shove it down the generals', admirals' and marshals' throats if needed.

Parliament has to pass a law that forces our Defense forces to buy indigenous weapons. That is what the US and Russia has done.

Given a choice, EVERYBODY wants "foreign" maal and this is human nature.

Unless forced by law, there are a lot of people who will not do the right thing. The grass is always greener on the other side.